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I have this irrational desire to replace my old trusty Mondeo with a gas guzzling 4x4.....
....apart from saying "don't do it...", which of course could be very good advice, has anyone got experience running a BMW X5 4.4 or similar....
....whilst the fuel costs are high, the purchase prices are low at the mo; I'm looking at a 4.4i 2005 with 60K miles for under £10k and the road tax is only £260 as it's earlier than 2006. Hence I'm interested, particularly as i get 45p/mile through work.....
Thoughts anyone??
"don't do it.........."?
You'll automatically turn into a right ****. I wouldnt bother.
Cost of tires / replacement indicator bulbs[s]
....whilst the fuel costs are high, [b]the purchase prices are low at the mo[/b];
Have a think about why this is so.
There seem to be quite a few round that have been LPG'd would be a big saving there. Apart from that just do it!
replacement indicator bulbs[s]
Silly billy. He said he was looking at a BMW.
if u go bmw make sure u get the indicator stalk replaced they all seem to be faulty
Depends on your mileage.
I drive a 4.2 RS6 and a tank fill is £110 at 20mpg if driven like Miss Daisy. Your 45p a mile just about covers fuel, let alone tyres/ insurance etc.
That said big engines are great and put a big smile on your face 🙂
MM
For the love of spok no. Unless you live in the countryside? In which case you would probably have one already. So NO.
if u go bmw make sure u get the indicator stalk replaced they all seem to be faulty
I'm 3 beemers in and never heard of/had one fail. ❓
is it because you is a drugs dealer, pimp or a hairdresser.. innit
Mr Mule Senior swears by his diesel Landrover Freelander.
Of course, sometimes he swears [i]at[/i] it - such as the time the silly git put about a hundred quids worth of unleaded in it....
I'm looking at a 4.4i 2005 with 60K miles for under £10k
You could get a bike for that!
Subaru Forester. Seriously sorted and fun.
Miss mine. Three riders refused to ever get into a car with me again after experiencing my driving in mine...
Its also not blown money. Very capable pratical vehicles. 30mpg+ on a 2.5T petrol. None of the pap 30mpg diesel wheezing..
is it because you is a drugs dealer, pimp or a hairdresser.. innit
That is priceless....you might have just put me right off with that one comment....!
Dont get a X5- if its a beemer 530 or 330 not a Nottingham drugdealer special!
I ran a 3 litre diesel for 3 years from new.
Average fuel was 27MPG which given the weight isn't too bad. Running costs are high with one service north of £2k which was 4 tyres, rear brake pads and the usual oil and filters.
Build quality isn't as good as it once was and given the complexity of the management systems it's beyond your back street garages which leaves main stealers or your local specialist. while under warranty I have had a few issues fixed but im not sure about extended dealer warranties. If i was buying second hand i would try and get one of these in place if possible. Or at the very least a full service history. 60k miles is nothing on a modern engine. I ran a Audi A4 to just under a quarter of a million miles before the gear box expired. Chopped it at a dealers who disposed of it through a local auction house, the next thing I know is i get a call from trading standards enquiring about the mileage as a local south wales dealer had clocked the car.
They are fantastic cars but it comes at a cost.
BTW I have a BMW two bike cycle rack for sale if your interested!
[quote=fenred said]if u go bmw make sure u get the indicator stalk replaced they all seem to be faulty
I'm 3 beemers in and never heard of/had one fail.
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fozzy 2.5XT if you want the sleeper look - just as capable as the rest
Kia Sorrento will be gracing my drive next weekend ready for next years caravan holidays 😆
Why not a Murano? Leftfield
Or basic..Nissan Patrol.
Or Forester. Try one. Please.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/honda/cr-v-2012/
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/honda/cr-v-2007/
Anyone who buys an X# BMW over a 330 Touring is on crack. One is a twunt machine and the other is a practical rocketship.
if u go bmw make sure u get the indicator stalk replaced they all seem to be faulty
I'm 3 beemers in and never heard of/had one fail.
I was being 'sardonic'
*stealth edit*
spend the money on something useful like a car and a bike. Then the money you will save every month will pay for another bike very shortly.
Or try them ads in your spam box if you feel the need to grow another couple of inches and throw your money away.
If you are considering this purchase I urge you to do so as soon as possible.
Starbucks have since come to appreciate the error of their ways and after agreeing to pay more tax are basking in waves of adoration...
Please, for the sake of the nation, buy this car, in full knowledge that you will be shortening the time to return to a profitable national economy.
fenred - Member
I'm 3 beemers in and never heard of/had one fail.
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I once asked a vaguely similar question on here before quickly realising it was the wrong place to ask about such things!
330i + diesel yeti 4x4, that my fleet and I'm very happy with it. Did consider x5 but having to deal with the 330s image is bad enough!
£10k is too much, should be able to get OPEC specials for far less.
As long as you realise that a £60k car still costs big money, even if you only paid pennies for it.
My 535i had already lost £40k when I bought it, cost me 48ppm over 5 years and 40k. Downshifted to a 3.0i V6, paid £1k and it had already depreciated £31k, currently at 39ppm (and fuel is 25ppm of that).
A friend had the 4.4i, make sure its got decent history and a recent set of tyres.
How about one of these: http://www.icon4x4.com/overview/coming-soon
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/driven-the-icon-bronco-2012-11-01
I'm 3 beemers in and never heard of/had one fail.
Just about the best example of completely missing the point I've seen in ages. Typical Beemer driver, really...
Here, I'll give you a small clue; one reason for things never failing is through lack of use... 🙄
Get an M5 or GTFO.
Just about the best example of completely missing the point I've seen in ages. Typical Beemer driver, really...
I think you guys sort of missed the point...
Many years ago an independent garage offered to leand us their courtesy car while they did some work on Mrs Gti's car. They took me outside and proudly showed me... a knackered old 3 series BMW. I had to endure the shame of driving around in a BMW for several hours, I kept away from my neighbourhood in case anybody saw me; I went to a supermarket, bought a paper and sat for a couple of hours until they called me back to pick up our own car. When I got home I had to take a long hot shower and even now I find it difficult to admit that I drove a BMW. Ugh! The shame!
Why oh why would you do such a thing.
If you must have a 4x4 something diesel that's capable of proper 4x4 stuff seems more logical. If you want big engine petrol vehicle the previously mentioned 3.0 bmw wagons would be more the thing or an A8 for something big with 4wd. If you are used to Mondeo running costs that will be a big enough shock to your wallet!
Im NOT an Audifanboi but what about a A6 allroad?
Range rover! And not the sport!
Something I heard recently "if you are thinking of a BMW X-whatever, you should probably spend half as much on a decent German estate and spend the rest on the therapy you clearly need.
On the other hand, Porsche Cayenne look pretty cheap too. what could possibly go wrong!!
Some of the comments on here are priceless, there really are some very irrational immature people on here.
7 year old BMW is going to start to cost you though at some point soon so be prepared for that, have you looked at the cost of tyres for example? If its your daily car then trips go the petrol station are going to start to really piss you off. As the owner of a vehicle with a 4.8l v8 engine there is no way I'd want to be putting big miles on it.
Why do you want one, willy waving credentials, fine go ahead taking into account costs as mentionned above, if you want a 4 x 4 for better driving in the snow etc. dont't, get a CRV / Freelander / Forester / Jimny / anything but a BMW or Porsche instead.
Why all the questions about, "why" and the comments re driving facts and figures?
That is missing the point entirely. No one buys a Rolex watch to tell the time. Ditto <1% of 4x4 drivers buy them for anything to do with their actual design and the manufacturers not very well. IT IS ALL ABOUT willy-waving. In snow, a 2 wheel drive car with winter tyres will outperform most/many 4x4s with normal tyres, as yesterday's papers confirmed. But that won't stop people buying under the excuse, well last winter we got stuck in the snow......!
9/10 its a sub optimal choice - but it's whatever swings your bucket. The marketing men, petrol suppliers and BMW after service staff wil be delighted if you chose the BMW.
Like that Icon Bronco a lot.
With regards the original question... this is spot on...
Anyone who buys an X# BMW over a 330 Touring is on crack. One is a twunt machine and the other is a practical rocketship.
Just about the best example of completely missing the point I've seen in ages. Typical Beemer driver, really...
I think you guys sort of missed the point...
Thank you zokes.....At least somebody spotted the sarcasm in my post 🙄
Why do you want a 4x4, and what do you intend to do with it?
The reason i ask is -
If you like the idea of the security 4 wheel drive gives you on the road then why not look at some big 4x4 estates, or smaller less lux 4x4s (Jap stuff)
If you actually intend to use the 4 wheel drive off road, then it is a different story.
If you want seriously rugged it is all about big Toyota/Nissan models if you want big/4x4/lux then you are looking at Merc M-class, BMW X5/ Audi Q-class.
I'm also hoping to get back into 4x4 ownership soon, but I want it for proper off-road adventure stuff (went to Africa twice in my old Landys) so I'll be looking at a big Toyota/Nissan Patrol or maybe Landrover.
DOn't forget that a car that cost 50k new, costs the same to look after 7 years down the line as it did when new, unless you are handy with the spanners.