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Watching the new Star Wars trailer reminded me of a feeling of sheer disappointment as a kid... Watching Star Wars for the first time I remember my heart sinking when Luke, in Stormtrooper guise, took off the helmet. To that point I'd assumed ST's were cybermen or something, something more than a man in a suit. And at that, a suit which seems to render them quite inflexible. Maybe the white goods look would be laser proof? Oh, no, lasers kill them too. Hmph.

Still frikkin awesome, mind. Roll on December.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:01 am
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Yeah..but they don't get nettlerash while riding the blue at Glentress.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:13 am
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same here, or at the very least humanoid, cyborg or something. i just assumed he'd taken it apart or pulled out it's human innards to get in. was only recently i fully came to terms with they're just humans in a plastic suit.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:13 am
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They're clones. Do keep up.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:17 am
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I always thought they were robots too, I assumed Luke and Han hollowed one out or something.

They just like that to look cool.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:20 am
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What Cougar said. George Lucas decided a plastic helmet was probably cheaper than having to actually clone a bunch of extras.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:21 am
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They're clones. Do keep up.

Quite - while I share the same sense of disappointment, the fact that they are cloned humans was established quite some time ago in Star Wars Episode Two.

Not just any clones mind you.

Clones of the father the THE coolest character in Star Wars - Bobba Fett.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:22 am
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<NERDISM>The Stormtroopers are clones of Jango Fett that were grown at an accelerated rate. Boba Fett is also a clone of Jango, but allowed to grow normally. Therefore Jango, Boba, clone troopers and stormtroopers are all the same genetically</NERDISM>


 
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I guess the empire looked back on the invasion of Naboo and realised that it was pretty easy for a hacker to switch off an entire droid army. I think by the events of episodes IV-VI the troopers are a mix of clones and other humans / humanoids - something about the destruction of the cloning facilities?


 
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Posted : 17/04/2015 10:27 am
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My favourite ever Stormtropper image.

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Carry on.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:30 am
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How come most of them are shit at fighting if they are cloned from someone pretty good at it?


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:30 am
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So how come the guy in the trailer looks nothing like jango fett?


 
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Posted : 17/04/2015 10:34 am
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Doesn't explain the Hotpoint war suit. What's wrong with Space-Camo?


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:34 am
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So how come the guy in the trailer looks nothing like jango fett?

Same reason Luke doesn't when he takes the helmet off.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:35 am
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Doesn't explain the Hotpoint war suit.

Quite handy on Hoth, though.

What's wrong with Space-Camo?

What, for when they're walking around in space?


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:36 am
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But we've been told he is a stormtrooper, not just someone who robbed the outfit.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:36 am
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The hotpot image is disappointing. Never thought they'd wear a cheeky black thong. Though commando is probably out as I bet that armour could give a nasty pinch.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:37 am
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So how come the guy in the trailer looks nothing like jango fett?

Seems I may have been wrong.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/of-course-there-are-black-stormtroopers-in-star-wars/383259/

by the time of the events of Episode IV: A New Hope, the Empire has been recruiting from general populations for years.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:39 am
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The Stormtroopers are clones of Jango Fett that were grown at an accelerated rate.

Something went wrong as they're all pretty average when it comes to fighting.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:49 am
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See, I was one of those who thought they were all kiwi clones.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:52 am
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Something went wrong as they're all pretty average when it comes to fighting.

They are clones, they don't have his knowledge of fighting or memories. He was picked because he genetically superior to other humans


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:52 am
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Shit in fact. When did a stormtrooper last actually hit someone with their guns during episodes 4+?

When I was a kid, I did also think they were robots. And Darth Vader.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:53 am
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Can I just say that this is one the best threads I have ever read on STW ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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Something went wrong as they're all pretty average when it comes to fighting.

Almost as useless as the A-Team in a firefight :mrgreen:


 
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I do remember thinking that white Stormtrooper armour on Endor seemed a little redundant


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:57 am
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Haven't a lot of the cliches about 'bad guys that can't shoot straight' come from Star Wars?

It probably existed earlier in Westerns and the like, but seems even more obvious in Star Wars because of their superior looking armour and guns etc.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:58 am
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Shit in fact. When did a stormtrooper last actually hit someone with their guns during episodes 4+?

I guess the advantage of rapidly grown clones is you don't have to worry about hiring or paying them, you just go for numbers and sooner or later they'll hit something.

I assume the idiots get the basic white suits though. The tie fighter pilots, ATAT/ATST, speeder bike, snow trooper lot all seem a bit more capable.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:59 am
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I always thought they were a trained goons topped up with clones. Luke was applying to join the Academy to become one before the Obi Wan thing kicked off.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 10:59 am
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See, I was one of those who thought they were all kiwi clones.

I for one cannot wait for Star Wars Episode VIII: The New Zealand Story.

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Posted : 17/04/2015 11:05 am
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I suspect they don't hit much because they are permanently knackered from all the shagging. This is based on extensive research in my late teens and early twenties - pop that suit on at a party and you become a babe magnet. Quantity not quality mind but I always felt I had to do my bit for the empire.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 11:06 am
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'tis true the TIE pilots and scout troopers did seem a bit handier than the regular 'troopers.
Maybe they had less party action ^^^^ ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 11:09 am
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So are any Stormtroopers women?


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 11:09 am
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Breann of Tarth is supposedly a bit of a bad-ass stormtrooper in Episode VII, but no women ones in the earlier films


 
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Oh, good casting. Wondering if that then means she's killed in GoT...


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 11:21 am
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So are any Stormtroopers women?

I sense you're trying to get someone a ban


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 11:28 am
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pop that suit on at a party and you become a babe magnet.

Is that because they got you to keep the suit on? Any problems with your helmet?


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 11:31 am
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Was prompted by this that came up when I was looking for the pink stormtrooper;

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I just wondered if the whole 'anonamised (sp?)' army thing would allow women to be on an equal standing with men etc.

I don;t really know the story behind the films and wondered if it was something that was part of it.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 11:33 am
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Breann of Tarth is supposedly a bit of a bad-ass stormtrooper in Episode VII, but no women ones in the earlier films

She's the Chrometrooper in the trailer, if the Internet is to be believed.

Is that because they got you to keep the suit on? Any problems with your helmet?

Do you get to hear those immortal words, "aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?"


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 11:49 am
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"aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?"

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It's weird - turns out there are a good number of ladies (word used advisedly) who harbour an ambition to fellate a stormtooper in the backroom of a party. Who knew!


 
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Posted : 17/04/2015 12:13 pm
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Can't shoot, but they can dance ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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It's weird - turns out there are a good number of ladies (word used advisedly) who harbour an ambition to fellate a stormtooper in the backroom of a party. Who knew!

Bloody wish I had of!!

While we're on the subject, are the cartoons worth a watch from the beginning? The boy has started wanting to watch 'em but it's kinda irritating jumping in half way (? God knows?) through a series.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 12:15 pm
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Pretty sure that the main reason they wear identical suits and full-face helmets is that the censors are then okay with them being massacred in firefights.

If the same number of humans were shot then it would have got a higher rating.

Sorry


 
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