[Closed] SPOILER -Andy Murray British or Scottish?

Both, what with Scotland being a part of Britain. 😉

As a Scot, and much as it pains me, I agree with the cap'n.

Andy who?

Both, what with Scotland being a part of Britain.

Good on him - sounds like he played well.

he's still a plucky brit as opposed to a dour scot

I am a bit ambivalent about him though - I have got over all that 'supporting another nation's footie team' bit, but he just doesn't excite me or get me interested.

scotch, always.

I'm really happy for him, don't give to s**ts where he is from he is getting better to watch now as well very powerful, athletic, still got a great drop shot. he will win a slam in the next 2 years. If (when) fed makes the final murray will have to bully him off court as feds still too good, but he has the power to do that. plus serena vs henin will be a great match.

have you thought of asking him?
that's the only way to solve this conundrum and spare us the jingoistic chest beating of sweaty socks.
will probably help avoid mentioning north sea oil, tax revenue, alcoholism and obesity too.

He's neither; he's a right dour little bugger.

Do the majority of Scots actually consider themselves British?

By that i mean that most people see 'British' as a political state of being, completely forgetting that they reside on the island of Britain.

Geographically he's British, whether he likes it or not!

MrSmith may not have realised it, but he has just ignited the blue touchpaper underneath our favourite faux-Scot, TJ.....

You can be both British and Scottish, can you not?

Do the majority of Scots actually consider themselves British?

In my experience, yes. The thing that annoys is when the word English is used as being interchangable with British. When a non UK citizen does it, it doesn't really annoy me but I will probably correct them but if you have been brought up in the UK you really should know the difference.

That annoys me too & i'm English!

I keep hearing from (i suspect Scots Nationalists) that they don't consider themselves to be British which is a strange idea unless Scotland can be physically seperated from the rest of the island.

I have a friend who knows jez green ( one of his fitness coaches) quite well, I think he went to loughborough with him. And by all accounts he's actually very down to earth and very good company socially quite the opposite to the way he often comes across and as the media like to portray him. Sadly it makes much better copy to paint him as your stereotypical dour English hating Scot.

[i]I will probably correct them but if you have been brought up in the UK you really should know the difference. [/i]

Your right, they should know the term English was used for British for years.

Scottish.

He knocked England once live on TV, very much distancing himself from England.

I mountain biked with him a couple of times a good few years ago - wasn't that great on the bike but fiercely competitive...gettign beat up the hills (or down them) and he'd start seriously grunting and then it was brute strength that got him going. Was a quiet kid and seemed fine, just very competitive - but he wasn't bad with it. No idea what he is like now...but good luck to him.

muddydwarf - Member
...I keep hearing from (i suspect Scots Nationalists) that they don't consider themselves to be British which is a strange idea unless Scotland can be physically seperated from the rest of the island.

Don't worry, rising sea levels from global warming will fix that for us

There's a nice application on Google Earth that lets you play around with sea levels. Unfortunately it doesn't mention how much carbon we have to burn to achieve this - curse those environmentally friendly windmills! 🙂

I'm English, he's Scottish, we are both Britsh. I don't care about any anti english comments he has made, I certainly would not rely on the media to interpret them. Good luck to him whether he wins or not, he is achieving a huge amount and it must be a pretty lonely existence being an individual sportman in the media spotlight.

He knocked England once live on TV, very much distancing himself from England.

So, the English dish it out but can't take it, it seems. English people are very frequently to be seen taking the piss out of the Scottish and Welsh.. but cue major upset when a Scot does it...

Can we just let it go and talk about the tennis? That's what he does after all.

I'm actualy more interested in him knocking the smug Swissman off his perch 😉

can somebody find out where he pays tax - then use that.

Win or lose who cares about the boring bloke!

He's British until he loses, then I hope those nasty English brutes remove him and his poor family from his croft as punishment and give the entire nation a reason for the comfort eating of unhealthy food and excessive alchohol abuse to negate their collective suffering.

keep hearing from (i suspect Scots Nationalists) that they don't consider themselves to be British which is a strange idea unless Scotland can be physically seperated from the rest of the island.

And what a sweet,sweet day that would be.

I see you have all forgiven him from the "anybody but Murray" thread a couple of years ago.His remarks about your football team should make it pretty clear where he is from.

I don't have a football team.

Can anyone come up with any links that the 'British when he wins, Scottish when he loses' journalism actually exists?

I can

Same paper, same journo

[url= http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/motorsport-news/2009/06/08/sixth-gp-victory-takes-jenson-button-a-step-closer-to-f1-world-title-86908-21424007/ ]Plucky Brit wins[/url]

[url= http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2009/08/31/jenson-button-remains-focused-despite-crashing-out-of-belgian-gp-in-40-seconds-86908-21637075/ ]Englishman loses[/url]

Oh hang on a minute I don't think that quite fits the accusation 😀

[i] unless Scotland can be physically seperated from the rest of the island.

And what a sweet,sweet day that would be.[/i]

+1,000,000

[i]And what a sweet,sweet day that would be[/i]

Damn right +38,000,000

And what a sweet,sweet day that would be

I like the shape of the UK and Ireland together, not quiet as good as Italy's boot but close, which is as good as reason as any to stay together.

There's absolutely no chance he's English - we're sh1t at tennis.

I don't know but I suspect that he was coached during his formative years in some warm climated foreign land, by a non-british coach

So, as a tennis player I'm not certain he should really be claimed by either

Ipersonally don't care. I'm a Scot who is British.

Somewhere up the thread there is an indication that as we are all in the same land mass we are all and always will be the same nationality. Does that make all teh people who live in China French then?

TW4T

I still dont know how we have a scottish tennis player. I have never, never, seen anybody playing tennis in Scotland. Except in wimbledon week when somebody chalks out a court on the road and use a washing line instead of a net. And swingball.

Never mind, the scotch can still claim Angus Podgorny as their own.

Andy Murray British or Scottish?

He's clearly both (and happy to be both, like the majority of Scots).

I don't know but I suspect that he was coached during his formative years in some warm climated foreign land, by a non-british coach

He was mostly coached in the UK by a Scot/Brit but from age 15 was also coached in Spain. He was already a highly ranked junior player by that point though.

If you lot don't stop fighting over him, we'll find an Irish relative somewhere and have him instead. 😛

I still dont know how we have a scottish tennis player. I have never, never, seen anybody playing tennis in Scotland.

When I was growing up tennis used to be quite popular around the time Wimbledon was on, but not so much the rest of the year.

In posher areas it's more popular though - my kids get tennis at school, and there is a fair sized tennis club not far from where we live now.

I suspect the same is probably true in England - popular as a participation sport with the more affluent, but less so with others.

popular as a participation sport with the more affluent, but less so with others.

Yeah - it's so they can practice beating the oiks.

Don't they have people to do that sort of thing for them?