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In light of [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/how-did-i-get-to-46-without-knowing-about ]derek_starship's thread[/url], I got thinking about a great Canadian project that never came to pass, due, some say, to pressure on the then-Prime Minister John Diefenbaker from President Kennedy.

It was called the [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_CF-105_Arrow ]Avro Arrow[/url], and [url= http://www.ctvnews.ca/avro-arrow-mystery-deepens-with-u-k-discovery-1.741854 ]controversy has surrounded it ever since[/url].

Most unfortunately, it caused a brain-drain from the Canadian scientific and engineering community, that saw many leave for NASA and other projects further afield.

What other great losses come to mind?

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Posted : 06/07/2015 9:08 am
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Mint Sauce keyring.


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 9:11 am
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Similar to the Avro Arrow, the BAC TSR-2.

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Posted : 06/07/2015 9:13 am
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British Railways - the spectacular engineering project that was arguably stolen from under our feet?


 
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Transpennine electrification.


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 9:23 am
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At Hopetoun House at South Queensferry there is an exhibition of drawings of the proposed tunnel they wanted to build under the Firth of Forth before the rail bridge was built. I have never understood why they didn't go for this option for the latest bridge project.

I also have a book about the Falkirk Wheel, which again has some of the crazy "drawing board" ideas, my favorite of which is a giant egg filled with waterthat boats sailed into when it was standing on one end, it then lay down and they sailed out the side door. Genuis !


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 9:29 am
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The UK Water Grid


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 9:31 am
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Mint Sauce keyring.

Yes! Surely it's long-overdue a resurrection ? I lost mine four years ago and have been feeling quite bereft. Had it for decades, often used that lovely concave, textured back as a meditational aid/worry-bead (the thumb rests so comfortingly in there)

Why not bring back Mint Sauce Keyring, MBUK? And no changes please. Not a one!


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 9:33 am
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The RTV31 hovertrain....

http://www.railworld.net/rtv31.php

Watkins Tower in Wembley, which stood (or started to stand...) where Wembley Stadium ended up...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watki n's_Tower


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 9:40 am
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Reading the avro thing, surely the documents are declassified now?


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 9:57 am
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That's a good point, wysiwyg. I seriously think it will make a good topic for some doctoral thesis in the near future.

Whoever gets their hands on any real evidence first will go down in Canadian history him/herself.


 
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Lockheed X-33.


 
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UK Large-Scale Wind Power Programme, abandoned by UK government, Germans and Dutch picked it up and now it is worth billions to their economies. Some wild and wacky looking turbines.


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 10:46 am
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[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_XB-70_Valkyrie ]B-70 Valkerie[/url]

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Over the years I have seen regular reports and papers on options to build tunnels to Ireland, USA and Shetlands from mainland UK.

I was also involved in a feasibility for a tunnel from Gibraltar to Nth Africa, (that would have been a focal point in today's climate!!).

Also a UK 'hadron collider' type tunnel in the UK, (still a goer if funding can be sorted).

Large deep storage caverns for nuclear waste in UK, (no guesses where that might be located ๐Ÿ˜‰ )


 
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Chipping Norton hopefully


 
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Great shame TSR 2 never made it to active duty.

General Atomic's Orion, solar system exploration (and world domination) was in our grasp.


 
Posted : 08/07/2015 5:02 pm
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the british breaking the sound barrier in the air. (i know we have on land though ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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This, in South London - 300m high proposed in 1829 - that would've been visible from half way across Southern England

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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18960478 ]More here[/url]


 
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This, the Ekranoplan! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_Sea_Monster


 
Posted : 08/07/2015 5:42 pm
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I always though the Valkyrie was just an exercise in "lets see if we can bankrupt the soviet union by copying this" by the US?


 
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The Queen Elizabeth carriers with cats and traps.

Instead we decided to make the worlds biggest STOVL carrier, a gigantic missile magnet without the CAP/intercept range to keep anti ship missiles out and a normal operational aircraft complement the size of a carrier a third of the size. The ****ing geniuses.


 
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British Railways - the spectacular engineering project that was arguably stolen from under our feet?

On that - the APT.

I'll also add the Tupolev TU-144.

Technically both 'were', but kinda not.


 
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Wasn't the Afro arrow copied almost entirely by the good old ussr as the fox at mig 25, or so I heard, the factory was riddled with agents.


 
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Avro not a bloody Afro ! Typically USSR spell corrected to user . Typical products of today, no history!


 
Posted : 08/07/2015 7:14 pm