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I presume they got paid for them though? And as posters they're designed for public consumption? If they only have to mean something to the artist rather than appeal to the general public, why didn't they save their our money and let the artists indulge in their mutual onanism at their own expense?
They sold 250 limited edition prints of each for £500-£950 a piece, I suspect that will have covered the artists costs.
Why do we need to be told by an art 'expert' what it means?
You can't stop people sharing their opinion, you don't have to take any notice of it.
How the hell can they call this Swimming ? More like drowned as i can't see anyone swimming!
Just proves to me even an Artist has no visionary on this joke of Olympics we are
holding
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i would like to know if they got paid also, esp as there appears to be little effort on show from many of them. i was particularly disappointed with chris offili as, despite me not liking him at all around the time of the elephant pictures, the last show of his i saw was both sumptuous and dazzling.
and mass appeal art that should't need any explanation? aside from the contradictory nature of such a statement then obviously religious painting must be right out the window. in fact quite a lot of narrative painting generally. and who are this mass? i'm not sure i'm one of them.
according to racer then i must be one of the intelligentsia. excellent! i hadn't realised that. better yet, according to elf, i must be a sheep. what a commitment to labelling you all have. i dread to think what you'd come up with if this is performance based around someone's taste or lack thereof.
what a pity to dismiss an entire group of people down to they type of art they practice. how shortsighted to dismiss those who might like to talk about it. how blinkered to dismiss an entire art movement without considering its influence - tho elf should know about this and all those isms as, he tells us, he went to one of those art schools so obviously if he says brit art=the whole of conceptual art it must be true. what was it, elf, one of your art school pals did better than you?
me, i've more faith in the 'man in the street' (or maybe back in the island days the man in the croft). on friday i spent my time at one of those art shows where folk who never went to art school, who'll never have themselves that much touted gallery show, got a chance to put their work up. and that at a spot that receives no public money (doesn't ask for it), if anything exists in spite of the lack of it. was there talk of what art is or what art isn't. not a whisper. best leave that to those who like to sit back and sneer. indeed since the islands i've never been at one of these gigs where this type of conversation has come up.
course we must all be the 'intelligentsia'. maybe i'll suggest that to the wee girl age 10 3/4 (not 10 1/2 mind) who was there. or the street trader guy who wants to start his own publishing thing. or any of the rest of them. maybe they missed the sign at the door pigeonholing them, telling them what they were and what they should think. there's a word for that. what they did do was what they do at so many of these things - have a good crack about what a ****ing magic thing the arts are, how where else could you get such a diverse bunch of folk in a space, how there was everything from 'conceptual art' to pictures of cows and what a great thing that was.
there was no mention of any olympics and if there had have been any value judgements would have passed swiftly by in favour of the question 'what would i do'? it's the same question i'd raise to the kid that feels excluded by the very views elf espouses, art's not for them, they're not good enough. i'd show them martin creed and i'd say can you do this. and all of a sudden they'd have a way in.
it's not fair to criticise elf for a few passing comments on a forum. there are plenty of other people who tell us what we should like, what we should think. what's right, what's wrong, those subjective criteria by which we should judge people. and of us those, many say a lot worse. when i'm doing the education/proselytisation part of my 'creative work' i say art gives us a means to escape from all of this. not the chat, that's just hot air, a rake of blethers, but the actual work of it. art i say does not make the external world beautiful (tho it helps) but the internal one.
i have a big motivational soap box i can get on here but i'm not going to. i'm off to do the art thing. and then, once the frost has melted i'm away on my bike. and get away from the negative vibes!
Don't try pretending you're all superior and can 'understand', cos you're lying to yourself. You can build a wall against the truth, as high as you can, but you've no mortar for your bricks.
Not pretending anything, any ideas of me being an arbiter of taste is just your imagination running away with itself. I was merely stating that their intrinsic worth to me goes beyond any aesthetic but more as a catalyst for plebeian debate about art. .
3 pages of simmering micturation is worth any increase in council tax.
3 pages of simmering micturation is worth any increase in council tax.
No thanks i am paying more towards the Olympics out of my council tax already
as i live within the borough of Newham.
Heh! You like that one, innit Grantway? 😀
I was merely stating that their intrinsic worth to me goes beyond any aesthetic but more as a catalyst for plebeian debate about art.
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You are Brian Sewell and I claim my five pounds. 'Plebian'? Get over yourself. Loosen up a bit; if you weren't so uptight you might actually be able to produce some art yourself... 😉
the kid that feels excluded by the very views elf espouses, art's not for them, they're not good enough
That's actually the opposite of what I'm on about: elitism serves to perpetuate the situation of power and influence of particular groups, whilst excluding those who don't conform. Far from being 'radical' and 'open minded', it is in face the reverse, and discourages new ideas other than those sanctioned by such elites.
I genuinely prefer this version.
I think the vermilion undertones hint at the visceral intensity of devoting a whole identity to a single purpose.
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Granted it was done by a group of toddlers at their daycare centre. So it is possible they have a differing narrative depicting it's intent.
Liking it Ian; liking it....
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That was magnificent, swiss01! While reading that I could hear strains of Elgar faintly in my ear. It was like that advert for when they brought back Tetley's Tea.
Also, wunundred!
Seems only fair on a thread where Elf is getting his art handed to him on a plate that he should be denied this simplest of pleasures too.
+1 for Swiss and a big fat nil points for the art bloke on the BBC... and the "art" itself.. utter self serving pretentious guff....
Just shown the pics to Mrs Rickmeister...
"What a ******* load of utter w**k by some self serving ***d that must be so f*** up themselves... "
So thats clear then!
Ianmunro's kids FTW, I have never seen such a clear visual interpretation of gymnastics and the subtle juxtaposition of hockey and fencing..
See I can talk self serving bollocks too...
Shame. They got some of the 2007 Tour Prologue ones so right.
This one's been mentioned already but it is fantastic:
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This is classic too:
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Liking those posters finbar...
What gets me, is that once again London Transport can get it so right:
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Loving this thread. FWIW, I like a couple of the posters, the Whiteread and Riley ones, although Bridget's effort gets marked down because of the colour palet. The tertiary colours a very much her style at the moment, but it would have been much more effective if she'd used the actual Olympic colours, as Whiteread did. I 'get' the Whiteread one, as she uses appropriate colour rings in an unconventional fashion, which still says 'Olympics'. Bridget Riley's just doesn't do that, sadly, as the colours just don't say 'Olympics'. I'd love to have copies of each on my wall, though; it's the only chance I'm ever likely to get to have a Bridget Riley.
Sewell really gets my goat as a critic, he's such a stuck up snob.
Could you ever tire of punching this face?*
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*Not really I mean I can't condone violence. 😐
I like the design of those London Transport posters, clearly done by a graphic designer trying to convey a message or theme, which they do very successfully, certainly more successfully than the most of the posters created by the 12 artists (with the possible exception of Micheal Craig-Martin).
But that's not the point is it (sigh)?
I'd rather have any of the artists posters on my own wall than one of the Transport ones.
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I'd rather have any of the artists posters on my own wall than one of the Transport ones.
I'd rather have a tatty bus ticket on my wall than most of those posters.
OH LOOK I HAVE!
I'm a 'Situationist' now.
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All those "special" posters what about some for the non-paralympics?
Self confessed philistine, but someone was conned with those posters.
Well said Swiss - that was righteous.
In related news about poncey arty b******s
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15613227
The irony of all this is that the London underground map is the most sublime piece of design ever produced by anyone, ever! Truly revolutionary and iconic! Yet I'm sure that Didn't occur for a second to the half-wit who signed a big cheque to Tracy Emin to reproduce a scribble she once did. Possibly? I don't know. Is this why people keep giving me these enormous cheques? Is it?
Binners is actually right. 😐
No sorry but I'm afraid there it is. The Truth.
Her best work, ever.
Plebeian? Where in Londinium AD did you dig that word up from elf?
Plebeian: Nope actually I would describe ones self and Artisan with ones own business
an employer of 4 persons, whom I would refer to as Petite Bourgeoise.
I also own Two homes, and none of them of modern Plebeian insulae.
And proud of the fruits of ones labour and Dyslexia brain has provided
for me and my family thank you.
Loosen up !
No I am so peeved off of the constant monies wasted and the broken
promises to the local people by this Olympic committee.
Just when do you use an Artist to promote a product/brand!
In which the Olympics has more become over the years.
They should have briefed an Graphic Artist as what clearly works as
shown by the Four illustrations you have shown.
You are Brian Sewell Absolutely NOT elf. You don't get 5 Pounds but 5 Slaps 😉
just spotted the adidas and puma product placement in that munich 72 poster
retrotastic 8)
Like this one as wording brings back what the Olympics is also about
By Elena Simpson aged 11
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See? That's already far better than most of the official posters.
Plus it gives synchronised swimming a bit of the spotlight. 🙂
Plebeian? Where in Londinium AD did you dig that word up from elf?
It woz MrSmith wot called me it.
You are Brian Sewell Absolutely NOT elf. You don't get 5 Pounds but 5 Slaps
I don't think I deserve 5 slaps. 5 pints maybe! 😀
No I am so peeved off of the constant monies wasted and the broken
promises to the local people by this Olympic committee.
The stuff that we see in reality, Grantway; the stuff that most people don't. The stuff you don't see reported in the media...