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An old friend of mine has just posted pics on FB of her badly bruised face, arms and legs after being man handled to the ground by three police officers after asking for directions to her hotel in Manchester after being separated from her husband after a night out. She was dragged into an alley and thrown facedown onto the floor by three officers. After her screaming for help a fourth officer came on the scene and she was let go and sent on her way. She called the Greater Manchester MET the next day and they have no record of the incident. Her local constabulary have no interest either. What can she do next?
Have a look at the crimebodge website.. Hes forever suing the police for various issues
She needs some evidence - audio, visual or witness.
Without any of that I fear it's her word against theirs - and she's unlikely to win.
There surely has to be more to the story than that....
There surely has to be more to the story than that….
According to her account, no.
+1There surely has to be more to the story than that….
Was she pissed?
+1 for crimebodge, it fair to say he’s not a fan of the police and has successfully sued them and help people sue them.
There surely has to be more to the story than that….
Very much this. If she has cause for complaint she should contact the IOPC rather than post it on Facebook.
I thought that GMP usually wore bodycameras, especially those working in the city centre on a Saturday night.
If four Police Officers were involved in this alleged incident then I am surprised that the incident was not reported/logged by one of them, footage/audio seen/heard by control room staff at the time, or that it couldn't be found the next day.
Maybe she should contact the IOPC
IOPC is who you complain to if the police don’t handle your complaint satisfactorily, if you go straight to them they’ll send you straight back to GMP. Complain direct to GMP. Please let us know the rest of the story when it comes out.
EDIT - Looks like you can complain direct to IOPC (unlike PIRC in Scotland) and they’ll forward it on to GMP.
Just realized from that crimebodge website that the Chief Constable of the GM met is an old school mate of mine and an ex resident of the same town she’s from. I’ve sent her his email address maybe that will help.
Just realized from that crimebodge website that the Chief Constable of the GM met is an old school mate of mine and an ex resident of the same town she’s from. I’ve sent her his email address maybe that will help.
Errr no. Raise the complaint via the official channels.
Errr no. Raise the complaint via the official channels.
+1
I would also probably recommend that she removes the Facebook post which serves no purpose now that the correct channel to deal with any issue/complaint has been identified to her.
Messaging your old friend the CC of GMP really isnt the way to do this.
Im sure there is a lot more to this story than some onesided hearsay posted on Facebook.
Take photos of any injuries, including bruising and make a complaint by email to the IOPC.
So someone without any previous is assaulted by 3 Police Officer’s and a 4th comes to her rescue, but the next day the Police are not interested or tell her how to complain officially 🤔
I would be posting on FB to get it sorted too...and telling the Daily. Mail for good measure too
If she needed "man handling" to the point of bruising being caused etc then surely she would have been nicked for drunk and disorderly?
Hmm, I may be cynical but a girl who goes up to a group of police officers and politely asks for directions does not get treated that way.
The advice above is right for the complaint but you need for the full story and I’m really not sure you have it.
My immediate reaction was that they weren't genuine Police. Or she walked into the middle of something else kicking off to ask directions without noticing. It seems very odd.
Without being able to identify the coppers/having witnesses it would be hard to get bodycam footage. Unless she's appealing for witnesses it shouldn't be on social media though.
+1 for not getting the full story.
My guess is she has a really annoying voice or some other mitigating circumstances. It's a fact that police officers never turn violent for no reason.
Rare moment of STW being in agreement, yer mates talking shite
Is my sarcasm too subtle for everyone or just mashr?
BruceWee
Member
Is my sarcasm too subtle for everyone or just mashr?
or hadn't read your post? Standing by my statement
Well, in 50 years of interacting with the Police, including a few "errors of judgement" on my part, they've never suddenly turned violet for no reason, but others experience will no doubt vary
There are certainly some bad/dodgy police officers but 3 of them together choosing to assault a woman who'd just asked for directions seems a bit unbelievable to me. It might well have been the case they acted with excessive force if was just drunk & lairy but then it's odd they didn't arrest her to at least try and cover themselves (although possibly having to submit bodycam evidence might have made them decide not to). Not sure how long bodycam footage is saved if no arrests are made (assuming they even had them)?
I think the fact that three of them acted together makes the story more plausible not less. The mob mentality: safety in numbers, less feeling of responsibility, three against one they'll never believe her... .
If you Google "police complaint Manchester" the first results are forms to fill in.
For context:
they’ve never suddenly turned violet for no reason
Kudos for shoe-horning in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory reference 😉
Standing by my statement
You seem very certain. There are two explanations here. One is that her account is not just 'only part of the story' but 100% a fabrication.
The other is that the police acted unlawfully (unless the part of the story that she is skipping is that she was arrested).
You seem convinced (and also seem to think the rest of STW is convinced) that she 100% fabricated her story.
What are you basing that on?
There surely has to be more to the story than that….
Was she walking on the cracks in the pavement?
Damn, too late to edit as well
It all sounds very far-fetched to me.
4 policemen all in the same place?
Your mate is talking shite.
The fact that her only actions since have been to post it on Facebook rather than pursue proper complaint channels reinforces that she is talking shite, or is thick, or both.
Well, in 50 years of interacting with the Police, including a few “errors of judgement” on my part, they’ve never suddenly turned violet for no reason,
...until they open that cell door and push you forcefully through and say "In dey go"
Very good perchy 👌
Having made that little joke, I get the feeling coppers end up a bit jumpy after taking years of shit. They always seem to look a little worried if I approach them if something has happened on a night out (apart from the large ones), I guess maybe because I have Steve Buscemi eyes, like they’re half expecting me to turn out to be a drug addled lunatic.
Good people end up doing shit things because of trauma, desensitisation, human propensity to classify and pigeonhole and group dynamics. In that context I guess it could be plausible the OPs friend is telling the truth. Then again it could well be made up bollocks.
I hold such action in Beauregarde......
BadlyWiredDog
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they’ve never suddenly turned violet for no reasonKudos for shoe-horning in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory reference 😉
until they open that cell door and push you forcefully through and say “In dey go”
That deserves more recognition. Good work.
BruceWee
Member
You seem very certain. There are two explanations here. One is that her account is not just ‘only part of the story’ but 100% a fabrication.
The other is that the police acted unlawfully (unless the part of the story that she is skipping is that she was arrested).
You seem convinced (and also seem to think the rest of STW is convinced) that she 100% fabricated her story.
What are you basing that on?
At no point did i say it's 100% a fabrication, I said she's talking shite. How big is this woman, or what super-drugs is she on, that requires 3 police officers to take her down? Why would they "drag her into an alley" when they could just cuff her and throw her in a van?
OTOH, you seem to be getting very excited by the story, so crack on
after being separated from her husband after a night out
Maybe she was so pissed her husband left her to it (or she went off looking for more fun) - she fell over/passed out and has come up with this [pretty incredible] story to cover her arse/shame.
She called the Greater Manchester MET the next day and they have no record of the incident.
Hmm.... I wonder why that might be? Possibly because it never happened?
I know that the Police aren't perfect - but I really doubt this would ever happen in the way she recounts it.
And yes... three police officers together with another just around the corner within earshot?
Are you sure she wasn't in Hong Kong?
How big is this woman, or what super-drugs is she on, that requires 3 police officers to take her down?
In my very limited experience of this area seemingly disproportionate numbers of police to control one person are there to minimise harm to that person and themselves. When my wife's nick had Bronson there I think they decided 6 was the optimum number of officers to get him out of a cell with minimum harm to anybody.
OTOH, you seem to be getting very excited by the story, so crack on
I'm the one that's getting excited?
On reading the OP's account, which one of us grabbed their pitchfork and started screaming, 'LIAR!! BURN THE BLASPHEMER!!!'?
And before you say I jumped in to attack the police, I didn't. I have no way of knowing any of the details. I was pointing out that to accuse someone who complains about the police of lying because the story sounds unlikely is a very dangerous attitude to take.
Almost every abuse of power in history has been allowed to continue because the victims were always assumed to be lying.
I cannot believe for a minute that we have police so corrupt (I know, I know) that a group of them would set upon a lone woman and beat her up after she asked for directions. As stated before, someone isn't telling the truth and I don't think it's the police.
When my wife’s nick had Bronson there I think they decided 6 was the optimum number of officers to get him out of a cell with minimum harm to anybody.
Was your missus a prison officer or an inmate? 🙂
Motive?