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@matty of course we can. EU [b]desperately[/b] needs our money, there is no agreement amongst the 27 as to what to do about the budget - pay more in or take less out. Tariffs are in our favour and its an easy political trick to say something like "all tariffs with eu will go to nhs". Services are tariff free and onky 30% of our services are financial and thus subject to regulatory barriers. Cars we have a trade imbalance of £30bn pa. As I have posted before eurozone is very exposed over Greece (and Italy) and with UK and US being major IMF shareholders they have to have us onside.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 9:54 pm
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...and yet apparently according to some bloke on here they will be unwilling to extend the timetable to achieve things beneficial to them.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 9:57 pm
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One of my advisory board is an mp, his constituency voted leave. He was there 3 days post decision and his constituents were asking why there were still Polish people there and why they hadn't left. That's what they voted for.

That's what we're dealing with, Brexit means different things to different people.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 9:58 pm
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This is what I have been saying all day, EU is worried and a WTO Brexit looks more likely


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 10:01 pm
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????? What has Rupert Murdoch told you to think there Jamba?

Brexit has damaged the country inflation up, growth down, weve sunk to lowest of the g7 since the vote, this Tory government has damaged it further with its self serving election to try and mitigate the Brexit negotiations fallout

I'm sure it will cost the EU, its a loose loose situation, but right now Britain looks like a basket case, right now, the EU are being generous and pitying us but their patience will only last so long on

Remarkable really that so many people are still behind the Tories,


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 10:19 pm
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Probably belongs in here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/09/ruth-davidson-planning-scottish-tory-breakaway-challenges-theresa/

It's in the Telegraph so probably bllx


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 10:27 pm
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It makes sense, why would Ruth Davidson (with a female, Catholic fiancé) want to side with a bunch of homophobic anti-catholic creationist nutjobs?


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 10:59 pm
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Hard - Soft = In or Out of the Single Market & customs union.

Here's why it can never happen, say I import widgets, or say T shirts from say Bangladesh (like Primark), at the moment I have to pay 12% duty at the point of import. Now lets say we exit yet keep in the customs union for tarif free trade, yet want to do a better deal with Bangladesh so we lower our Trade Tariffs with them, I then get my shirts duty free, so not only do they get to be cheaper all the shops I sell them to immediately get a better deal than all the shops in the EU and there's this internet thing.. Now imagine they were higher ticket item things like say Cars...

Are we beginning to see why it can't happen, we can only be in or out, not both.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 11:08 pm
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Are we beginning to see why it can't happen, we can only be in or out, not both.

How do Norway do it?


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 11:11 pm
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How do Norway do it?

By paying to be members!
As I see it we will have a "hard Brexit" whether we want one or not.It's not up to the Uk what happens, it's up to the EU.The forthcoming negotiations are all the EU is concerned with at present and they have published what they want and expect to get-the so called divorce settlement.There is no obligation on their part to have any discussions after this divorce settlement.
I suspect that UK will be aiming for a Customs Union like Turkey have but with agricultural products included.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 11:21 pm
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It's quite interesting, people are talking about the NI need for a soft border as a taming influence on May but it's looking like the real "loyal opposition" is going to be Davidson- and considering she just had a great campaign by mostly ignoring orders from Westminster, was pro-remain, and represents a lot of remain voters, and is not one bit happy about the DUP alliance... I'd assumed it'd be a DUP rift that'd bring down this lame duck government but maybe not.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 11:29 pm
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Ruth Davidson will be inline for the next leader and she'll act in both the UK and Scotlands interest, but, whoever, whatever commerce is like physics and some rules just can't be broken.


 
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