[Closed] Social mobility- Condem style

Also, if Cameron get's his way - prepare to be saying hello to hundreds of new criminals in area near you.

Unless you live in London, in which case they'll all have been rounded up in the night, put on trains and sent to [s]Auschwitz[/s] S****horpe.

Could send them to Scotland/Corby and build another wall I guess.

Could send them to Scotland/Corby and build another wall I guess.

I suspect Salmond will get there first, only his wall will be too keep the Scots in (or possibly the English out).

its an interesting one the fabians do an interesting one about crime rates and the levels of inequity within a society- well worth a read for th elovers of capitalism

the answer to ending crime is to share stuff more evenly [ chances, opportunity , education, wealth everything]not to hit them with a bigger stick beacuse they are lazy,****less and amoral

Of course that means you have to help them and not harm them so some find this a disgusting proposal

bwaarp

Have you not though that there are plenty of normal law abiding citizens mixed in with the lower end of the working classes as well?

Why yes I believe I had already made that point

stumpyjon

The best way of dealing with crime and increasing social mobility is to remove the scum (don't know how or where) and not inflict them on the other 99.9% of the population be they waged or unwaged.

which you actually disagreed with

bwaarp

Except it isn't 99.9 percent of the population is it

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But hey I bet you now feel really self righteous, enough to get personal when someone holds an opinion you disagree with (or don't bother to read properly).

This, ladies and gentlemen is a proper full on selfish attitude to take

I suspect Salmond will get there first, only the ginger hedge will be too keep the Scots in (or possibly the English out).

FTFY

Without getting too deep isn't this just evolution? It's moved from biggest club/animal to feed the tribe to house/money ability to survive, surely at some point folk will fall by the wayside however much we try to create equal opportunity. Discuss.

Why yes I believe I had already made that point

stumpyjon

So how do you propose weeding out the 'deserving' poor from the scum when you are making blanket proposals that use wealth as a sole factor in deciding who get's social housing in London?

Without getting too deep isn't this just evolution? It's moved from biggest club/animal to feed the tribe to house/money ability to survive, surely at some point folk will fall by the wayside however much we try to create equal opportunity. Discuss.

Alpha female wolf provides for the rest of the pack and eats last. Discuss.

Of course that means you have to help them and not harm them so [s]some[/s] [b]Conservatives[/b] find this a disgusting proposal

FIFY

Alpha wolf also lets the weak die for the greater good. Discuss.

Edit. You edited, alpha female doesn't exist

Not going to argue anymore, I've got to go to bed as I have to go to work in the morning

I bet you now feel really self righteous, enough to get personal when someone holds an opinion you disagree with

Have an internet power point [ it wont make you sleepy]

Alpha wolf also lets the weak die for the greater good. Discuss.

There's a huge difference between being terminally ill and another pack mouth to feed. Discuss.

You edited, alpha female doesn't exist

Oh **** this is funny.

we are not wolves
Dont discuss

Well, that's where that fact that we're not 'really' one pack comes into play; no matter how much social policy exists those natural, self preservative instincts always come out

Nahhh I'm enjoying being a smartarse Junkyard

Well, that's where that fact that we're not 'really' one pack comes into play; no matter how much social policy exists those natural, self preservative instincts always come ot

So if we are not a unified society, why should they follow the rules and not resort to murdering you in your sleep in the name of social Darwinism?

I lived on benefits for a while in camden. It would have been handy if they shipped me here to noth wales back then, it would've saved me living a further 4 years in a sh#@hole in hackney.

There's a big difference between killing me and living in a house you can't afford

not for the wolves there isnt 😕

There's a big difference between killing me and living in a house you can't afford

Morally, if you show the attitude that you have done towards the poor then why should they respect your rights?

What would you also say to the idea that social Darwinism actually lead to the strengthening of ancestral societies through the natural selection of human individuals that could show compassion?

Self-interest can destroy a gene line quite easily.

As a biologist, I'm really having a ****ing laugh reading your attempt to use Darwinism in a socioeconomic context.

I would say you know far more than me.

What would you say to high intensity non invasive ventilation (mean IPAP 29 cmH2O) leads to lower and sustained arterial carbon dioxide levels in COPD patients?

Worst. Analogy. Ever.

Owoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Worst. Analogy. Ever.

And what I would say to the 'idea' is its just that because its obviously not happening.

Yep. Good job Labour stopped it during their 13 years.

Thankfully Labour were also competent enough custodians of the economy to prevent the biggest housing bubble the country has ever seen otherwise we'd be right in the shit eh?

Some lead, some follow. It had to of started somewhere. It started with her.

What would you say to high intensity non invasive ventilation (mean IPAP 29 cmH2O) leads to lower and sustained arterial carbon dioxide levels in COPD patients?

I'm not a murse so I don't care. But I would say possibly - nice that you had to bring in yet another statement that is totally unrelated to the OP though.

If you're a doctor - I fear for your patients.

Darwinism

Survival of the fittest. The fall back position of the selfish.

BenHouldsworth - Member

What would you say to high intensity non invasive ventilation (mean IPAP 29 cmH2O) leads to lower and sustained arterial carbon dioxide levels in COPD patients?

I'll get my mum a singletrack login and get her on this thread, I'm sure her COPD will give her a valuable insight into the social housing debate which we'll all benefit from.

If you were a 'murse' would you spell it like that? Why would you fear for my patients? Non if them ask for my opinion on 1st world cycling forum topics

Nahhh, I wouldn't become a murse in the first place.

Edit: I'll get banned for the Bricktop clip.

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Northward, fortunately only people of GOLD 4 classification of COPD tend to require NIV, however if your Mum ever needs any advice I'll point her in the right direction.

Because riffing off BMA/NHS guidelines show's intellect......lol this is like something out of....

No, it shows I know about what I do in the real world and not at half eleven at night with a bunch of argumentative ##### who didn't get non on Valentine night.

No, it shows I know about what I do in the real world and not at half eleven with a bunch of argumentative ##### who didn't get non on Valentine night

Hey, I have a missus with big boobs....a slim body and a good brain who happens to be working tonight!

She also likes threesomes with other birds - so my life is awesome thanks.

Winding you up is relieving my boredom until she get's back.

I was expecting that scene to end with Ryan O'Reilly stabbing Matt Damon with a shank made out of a sharpened spoon, then shouting "Stay away from my brother man!"

Hey, I have a missus with big boobs....a slim body and a good brain who happens to be working tonight!

So do I, really .

Yeah but does she like threesomes with other ladies?

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No, but her friend does

glad thats sorted between our aspiring social scientists--give em women with big mammaries and an open mind--

Meanwhile in the real world, the increasingly desperate measures the authorities are going too in order to 'balance da books'--

London housing 'costs' have been so distorted, the 'market' is patently not working-- again the blame is the 'poor'-- kick a dog enough times and it will bite back.

Speaking with 'friends' at the sharp end dahn landan- rioting is inevitable -- not a threat , its a last resort ,not sure if there are many history 'studiers' --but its a long tradition in this society......

London housing 'costs' have been so distorted, the 'market' is patently not working

I'd agree with that, house prices spirralled upwards because of stupid lending by the banks. The market would have rather spetacularly corrected itself if it had been allowed to (admittedly the impact on many would have pretty terrible) rather than the previous and current administrations shoring up the banking sector which will now inevitably make the same mistakes in a few years time. The market has no conscience and as such will tend to spike in either direction. A good government will act as the conscience for the market predicting and curbing excesses before they become an issue, i.e. making the banks face up to their lending stupidity before it all went wrong. A poor government will still intervene but only after the event when it has no choice and little room for manouvre, which is pretty much where we are now.