I’m looking forward to hanging on and seeing if we can get an 95th minute winner against Southampton so José can go postal on some lucazade bottles
i don’t know how we’re going to cope without Sanchez! He’s been absolutely bloody brilliant since he arrived. With him and a-goal-every-few-months Lukaku, we’ll be reet for the title
If you want delusional, check this out. One of my fanatical united mates on friendface....
Right, this is my theory, it will probably sound delusional... after the summer, where the board decided we only needed Fred, Dalot and a third choice keeper - because we'd finished 2nd with the squad we had, and the season before, winning the Europa league - Jose made it clear he wasn't happy that they hadn't backed him.
He's not picked a consistant 11 and he seems to change the team after they play well, he's picking players who are good enough to win but make it look hard work, he's exposing the weaknesses in our squad while keeping his head above water and constantly reminding us his history.
He wants more new players, United need a stronger squad, when he gets what he wants, with a few additions in January hopefully, he'll play his best 11 to win games. By the end of the season we'll be in the top 4, next season with a few more signings, we'll be well up for it.
We'll be playing much better football by the close of the January window, second half of the season will be good to watch.
It’s like he’s been inhaling the same shit the scousers have been inhaling for the last thirty years
its definitely our year
FFS!
Interesting squad choice from Jose. Who wants to play in position anyway? Matic as part of a back 5? WTF?! 😳
So basically he is tanking the team in order to prove he was right? I'm not sure how we will notice the Sanchez injury as he seems to forget he is in the squad some days.
I can't see him getting more serious money to spend, he has made each of the players who came back from the world cup look worse, you actually need to persuade players to come to your club these days, they won't be playing CL next year so if it's a choice of Liverpool/Spurs/Chelsea/Arsenal/City who would you head to?
I can’t see him getting any money to spend either Mike. His signings have been absolutely woeful! Apart from when they’ve been playing for their national squads where they look like different players!
And what world class player would want to come and play Jose’s awful, slow, laboured, clunky ‘style’ of anti-football?
De Gea will be on his way soon to somewhere where he’s a less shambolic defence in front of him.
We’re just going to carry on going backwards until Maureen ****s off! We’ve not a chance of top four this season. And nobody will be sorry to see the back of him!
And nobody will be sorry to see the back of him!
The knock off merchants with the massive pile of Jose scarfs will be hoping he sticks around a bit longer.
Probably the thing that might wake them up a little though was how quiet they were Tuesday night, it was well down locally on what you normally get for a CL tie
You’d never see empty seats at a CL game at OT. But that’s a reflection of where we are now. I’m glad to see people voting with their wallets. This has been coming for a long time.
I’m just pondering whether it’s worth the outlay for me and Binnerette number 1 to go and watch us get beat by Arsenal on Wednesday night
On the strength of this performance, I’m thinking not. Shambolic! Southampton look more like snatching a winner here than us
Well it is a chanc to see some decent football, I'm expecting Southampton to beat the city passing record here if they stop giving it away
We really didn’t even deserve a point from that dull, insipid, lifeless second half performance. Awful! No attacking threat whatsoever! They looked like they just couldn’t be arsed and would happily settle for a point. At Southampton FFS?!! ! Which is pretty much par for the course at the moment
Well MOTD time, we should have smashed them!! Perez will somebody buy perez!! Binners would you swap Rashford for him!! Folks said they thought they would get out and miss the traffic as it was going so badly, everyone stood up at the same time....
Rafa pointing out the spending money helps....
And yeah Saints deserved to do one over Man U there
"And nobody will be sorry to see the back of him!"
ahem.....
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Tough draw there!! Some good teams avoided
The blind optimist in me was thinking that as probably our best performance this season was against Chelski, we might up our game on Wednesday, so I’ve got us tickets. There may be a lot of swearing!
i know what it certainly isn’t going to be....
I’m off round to my scouse mates now for the Derby. Can anyone lend me an Everton top?
Well that’s as good a first half of football as you’ll see. Brilliant match! Spurs were played off the park for the first 20 minutes, and could easily have been 3 down. How the hell they’ve mansged to go in 2-1 up is amazing.
Great to see two teams getting properly stuck into each other! Getting proper handbags at timesIt’s many many moons since I’ve seen an Arsenal squad with this much backbone.
Should be a belting second half!
Well if Arsenal start like this at Old Trafford it could be empty by half time!!
In terms of English football and the PL it's good to see Arsenal coming back to form
Should be a belting second half!
A late entrant for understatement of the year
I think that is a performance that just underlines that Wenger stayed on for far too long.
What a game?! 😳
Like watching the Arsenal of old, at their peak. Superb football!
I’m bloody dreading Wednesday now, if they play like that. And on the strength of our pitiful display yesterday.
Still... I’ll get to boo Jose off at the end. If I make it to full time
So now onto the Liverpool derby, if Liverpool win it keeps the pressure on city, if Everton win it keeps 2-6 tight and gaps united in 7th.
Big result for Arsenal, and a very bad result for Spurs.
Arsenal are looking a very good team as time goes on, with a very good manager. I expect to see them pushing for second towards the end of the season.
Tottenham are looking increasingly one dimensional. I fear for their future if they cannot retain champs league this season, with the massive debt that has been loaded on the club with the ridiculous new stadium. The manager and Kane will leave at some point and Spurs could well end up with a half empty stadium, Europa League, and a decidedly average squad.
Poch is a good all round manager but tactically he is not in the top group of managers. The stadium is far too expensive and complex, they should have gone for a nice 45,000 seater like Juventus for £350million, not the one billion monstrosity they are currently building.
In other news, I think Everton will get a result against Liverpool.
Spurs need to sign a couple of players in January but they way they took Chelsea apart shows they are still a good side, Aresenal just wanted it more today. It's 4 from 5 for the CL this year and I reckon they have a solid chance of taking one of them.
As for building a 45,000 stadium that is tiny these days, 25% extra in match day revenue will be good for them.
Maybe they could get Wenger in for a few years while they pay it off? 😉
Unfortunately matchday revenue is a tiny percentage of a big football clubs overall turnover. There are also signs attendances are falling as the economy slows especially in London and the South East.
Chelsea had an absolutely awful day vs Spurs, I think a team like Huddersfield could have taken them that day, look how they let Son run through them.
Spurs were fortunate to beat Inter Milan as Inter sat back so much, but there was zero fluency to Tottenham's game and there hasn't been for a while.
I hope you are right and they can sign some new players and add a new dimension to their game, but Spurs look like they peaked last year. Crucially I think Pochettino only knows one style of play and other sides are now learning how to counteract this - like Arsenal, by playing with the same intensity and high press, but with more fluency in the final third.
I wouldn't be so concerned were it not for the fact that the new stadium means they have more debt as a club than Man United.
... and look where that got us.
At least your owner won’t be using your revenue to prop up their loss-making shopping malls in the states and paying himself a squillion pound a year in consultancy fees
I rarely post on this thread, but I just love watching this Arsenal team. The fight is there, the way they pull together and want it is just fantastic.The aittitude is wonderful and although some of the players aren’t good enough, I’m very much looking forward to what Emery can do with a few transfer windows. Up the Arsenal!
Football like anything goes through cycles and I think we are approaching the end of a "boom" period. With rising interest rates, and the fact young people seem to be more interested in E-sports than football, the cycle that was started around 1990 (Paul Gascoigne in Italia 90) feels like it is slowing down.
Tottenham have been getting their timing wrong. In many ways they were years ahead of their time in the 80s, when they started signing international players like Ardilles, and Irvine Scholar realised football had big business potential. But they over-extended and were unable to invest in the 1990s, when the most recent boom began with the Sky Sports/Premier League era.
I now believe they are too late to the party, investing too much, too late, when the cycle will start to reward prudent management of finances (which in fairness Daniel Levy used to specialise in - before he went mental with the new stadium).
I say this with regret as I like Spurs. I hope I'm wrong. But the debt (which is on the club, not the owners) is half a billion quid and unless you have an owner like Man City, that is still a hefty amount of cash.
There was a revealing investigation by The Guardian into ENIC, the club's owners, setting up lots of shell companies to benefit from the "gentrification" of the Tottenham area (also known as social cleansing). Ultimately the club is on the hook for the debt, not ENIC, and I can well foresee another late 1980s scenario in which the club is close to bankrupcy.
Another cracking derby, how is it still 0-0 though, it should be 3-3.
Unfortunately matchday revenue is a tiny percentage of a big football clubs overall turnover. There are also signs attendances are falling as the economy slows especially in London and the South East.
Small part but the difference in income between 45 and 62 could be worth £10m a season depending on how they price it. I don't see them playing in front of a half full stadium unless something goes very badly wrong,
We will see how Arsenal keep progressing, they are not the finished article just yet as the ease of the 2 goals Spurs got showed.
And of course the attitude and squaring up is 'something no-one wants to see'......but it's what's been missing for a few seasons and it's good to see. They're my favourite of the big clubs and it's good to see them back at the top table.
Always used to love watching Arsenal. The style of football played by the Invincible squad was as good as you’ll ever see. Used to love watching Keane and Vierra kick lumps out of each other in midfield.
They were miles off that for years under Wenger. Probably summed up best by Troy Deeney when he called their defence ‘a bunch of girls who need to man up’ after he bullied them for 90 minutes last season.
This looks like a proper Arsenal squad again. I’m dreading Wednesday. It could get embarrassing.
As for squaring up? Yes, more of that please. Shows it actually means something. I just wish any of our lot could even be bothered..
Great first half. Nice to see Everton turn up to give them a game. Had a few quid on them at 8/1
Everton didn't deserve that.
Oops!
Who was that bloke who scored?
Divok Origi. He's scored a few, been out on loan several times, we've had him for 4 years now
Belgian international with 25 caps
“Belgian international with 25 caps” shhhh Mourinho will be trying to buy him!!
Hughes sacked, it was only a matter of time, should be his last job in the premier league.
30 mins into Saturdays game he wasn't looking the most likely to be sacked
I'm predicting a rousing chorus of 'sacked in the morning' from the traveling Arsenal support on Wednesday night, and fingers crossed they'll be right
The united board seem stuck in Theresa May mode, they don't care what damage is done, as long as they don't have to admit they are on the wrong path.
I don't actually think they even care at all about whats gong on (or not going on) on the pitch, as long as shirt sales in Singapore are holding up, and they've got a new official kitchen roll 'partner'
Hughes sacked, it was only a matter of time, should be his last job in the premier league.
Agreed - he's hopeless. Constantly moaning. Part of the Moyes/Allardyce/Pardew niche who seem to end up with decent jobs having done very little to merit them.
Hughes was going to be sacked regardless of the Man U result. New manager “announced” as his car left the Southampton car park!
FA Cup Draw up
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46429233
Non-league Solihull Moors will host 13-time winners Arsenal in the third round of the FA Cup - if they beat League One Blackpool in their second-round replay.
National League North Southport will entertain Tottenham if they beat League Two Tranmere in their replay, while Woking will play Watford.
Holders Chelsea start at home to Nottingham Forest, while Premier League leaders Manchester City host Rotherham.
Liverpool go to Wolves, and Manchester United host Reading.
Go on love give us a twerk. My god
www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/kylian-mbappe-stunned-ada-hegerberg-13683129.amp
I watched that with Mrs Binners on the news last night, both o us absolutely incredulous that the bloke had got confused as to whether he was on stage awarding the ballon d'or had found himself in a Benny Hill sketch?
Anyway... After another press conference rambling more absolute gibberish, Jose is getting his excuses in early. Apparently Arsenal only being in the Europa league is just, like SOOOOO not fair because they get to rest players and you can't if you're in the Champions League. Its not something you'll have to worry about for too much longer Jose.
I'm hoping we'll be watching his last match in charge tonight. I can't se us getting anything tonight given our form compared to Arsenals.. Anything less than embarrassing/played off the park would be a bonus. Though to be honest I think that most of us would happily take an absolute tonking (highly likely anyway) if it meant seeing the back of Maureen
There was a pretty accurate article on where United are as a team in Mondays Guardian...
United players are drowning in José Mourinho’s sea of negativity
