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Agreed !
On the domestic front Allardyce & Moyes on their bikes ..should be more power to Rafa's contract negotiations as both West Ham & Everton have expressed an interest in his services..but our dopey owner probably won't be arsed ..
Sam to West Ham and Moyes to Everton?
now just need to get Henderson added to that list…
The captain of the team in the Champions League final ?
Hmmmm
Henderson?
Some noises about Alexander Arnold being in there
Never liked Henderson ..but that's more to do with my daughter seeing the bloke for a while when he was just breaking through at Sunderland ..
Being a Mag I still haven't forgiven her for that ..not least for the fact that she was way way to gorgeous for an ugly **** like him ..
If the England team were a dog, it’d have been put down by now as an act of mercy
Every dog has its day, and this time it really could be us 😉 - just get Mrs Binners to back us and they may as well send us the cup now.
Seventh down is a study in mediocrity in the prem – as bad a two tier situation as I’ve ever seen.
I've said this for years - not least when we were there last - but survival in the Prem comes down to there being really 4 leagues in the league.
There's the top 4 (or 3, or even 2) - City, Liverpool, Spurs, Utd really.... who are the only ones with a hope of winning it (and yes, I know Leicester = exception that proves the rule)
Add to them another 3 or 4 who might potentially get into the top 4 and jostle for a European slot, but aren't really contenders overall.
At the bottom there's maybe 5 or 6 who are relegation fodder. And in the middle the rest, who aren't really any good but are a bit better than the relegation teams.
And your goal really is to be the best in your little league, try to pick up points here and there against the next set (or if you're in the higher set, don't drop points against them) and try not to get humped for GD against the top teams. It's a strategy for survival in the Premier League for the smaller teams but it's not living for most people; we want to see good games where you try to win against whoever turns up, and after having seen 3 seasons of Reading in the PL I'd honestly swap season after season of play-offs or thereabouts in the Champs for just surviving in the PL.
Seventh down is a study in mediocrity in the prem – as bad a two tier situation as I’ve ever seen.
How does it compare to France, Germany, Italy and Spain? The European money delivers the same thing, if you are in the club you stay there unless somebody with a lot of cash rocks the boat (Man City) the best players want to be in the CL so will swap between the top clubs in Europe to get that. You might get 1-2 seasons if your contracts are good out of some players if you finish 5/6th Aresnal/Chelsea. So that is your first Quality split, the number of teams with decent backing is showing in how tight 8th-17h is - 13pts.
Below that it's those in freefall who have done something very wrong along the way.
Top of the championship is getting very tough, so the bounce back clubs need to either get in and go for it or restructure fast to survive.
Maybe Moyes has got his eyes on Gareth's job after the world cup implosion?
I would find it somewhat hilarious if both Everton & West Ham got relegated next season, both have 'ambitions' both had solid mid-table managers & mid-table positions will be interesting to see what happens next.
unless somebody with a lot of cash rocks the boat (Man City)
& with the Financial Fair Play rules they've put a stop to that...
& with the Financial Fair Play rules they’ve put a stop to that…
It doesn't seem to be stopping City though. 191m at the last count....
Talking of truly appalling football (and not just Jose's) looks like Villa are still in with a chance of promotion (ironically on the back of a 0-0 draw - how fitting).
How on earth they managed to loiter around at the fag end of the premiership, like a fart in a lift, for as long as they did, grinding out spirit-crushing, last-game-on-MOTD 0-0 draws every week, I'll never know. But I was delighted to see the back of them, and truly believed they'd never bother the Premiership again
Here's hoping I was right
No Shelvey in the England squad. Not even on standby. 😥
Yep a big mistake there I feel, though some youth that will hopefully do more than sit on a bus for the duration.
I lived in hope regarding Shelvey ..but deep down knew he never really stood a chance ..England's loss I fear ..
Binners ..hope you are right about Villa ..the most hated team after Sunderland in the eyes of toon supporters ..( mocking us going down a season or so ago )
I was chuffed for Mitro at Fulham ..even though it's obvious he has no future at Newcastle ..now just go and replicate that form in the playoff final & the world cup old son so we can squeeze every last million out of your transfer fee ..
Let's just pretend I care - what is the benchmark for 'success' this time?
Getting out of the group?
Not being bottom of the group?
Not getting humped 3-0 by a team from a country with a population of less than Manchester?
I like World Cups because you do generally get some entertaining football played by various national teams. But never by England.........
It’s always so frustrating as our players tend to freeze at WC’s and won’t take chances. They play it safe rather than take on a player and we then just get picked off.
I live in hope that we can put out a team that plays without fear and goes for it....but I’m not holding my breath!
What's the predictions for the Champions League final then ?
I'm going for 3-1 Liverpool with 2 early goals from Firmino and Salah.
I'll be sitting in a bar by the river in Cochem Germany rather than in Kiev though.
Wouldn't like to predict a score ..I hope Liverpool win ..but don't think they will.
I like Gareth's squad. I'll now probably watch it . I think success would be quarter finals.
Liverpool to win. please &if they could have it wrapped up by the first half all the better. You just know it'll be manic defending for the last 15 mins,with me behind the sofa.
If real give bale any time on the pitch in the final I think he will do Liverpool serious damage,if he can stay injury free I think whoever gets him for next season will have the bale of a few years ago.I still find the madrid fans a joke tho so I am hoping for a bale hat trick in a 4-3 madrid defeat:) (and the way they both play that could easily happen.)
I think Real win 2:1... but i prefer Liverpool.
Jordan? Is that you?
I think Real's European experience will show and they'll just edge it
I think it'll be a fantastic final though, and expect Liverpool to do what they always do. Straight out of the blocks attacking them, score a couple, then end up losing by shipping late last-gasp goals. Ronnie to score the winner in Fergie-time
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Imagine that? 🙂
Don't get me wrong ..I think he is a fantastic footballer ..but just to restore some football Karma.
I hope Salah is clean through on goal ..Ronnies running back gets alongside him and gently makes contact about 30 yards out ..but Salah throws himself theatrically to the floor and poor old R ..gets a straight red ..
Picking himself up after he "recovers " Mo then throws a wink in Klopps direction ..places the ball for the free kick and rifles it straight into the top corner of the net to score the winning goal.
Karma restored .
( Yes I know it was in an international match ..but what goes around n all that and I've never found it in me to forgive him ) 😁
Liverpool will play very bravely, but Real win experience. It was amazing final 😉 i'm looking forward 🙂
Guardiola extends his deal, good news for city.
Looks like Arteta will be appointed at Arsenal. Is he just a patsy to get over the post Wenger mess before the real rebuilding starts in 12 months time?
Police have been warned to watch out for Fulham fans with flares at the play off final.
At least, that's what they were wearing last time they went to Wembley.
The Grecians - fabulous tonight. Very fitting for the last home game for Steve Perryman. Now his very final game will be at Wembley.
While I'm no fan of Moyes, letting him go when they don't have anyone else lined up is just stupid. Better, I think, to have given him another year, stabilise the club, and then see if we could attract a better manager. I have more sympathy for Everton's board, having had the misfortune of watching the "football" Allerdici served up at West Ham.
Dunno, good to let him go now and get a new manager in well before next season. Few rumours today linking Rafa but it would be a sideways, if not downward move, I think for him.
Looks like Arteta will be appointed at Arsenal. Is he just a patsy to get over the post Wenger mess before the real rebuilding starts in 12 months time?
I think it's a bit of a two-way shot - Wenger leaving is a meteor strike and will turn that club upside down, meaning anyone who comes in, even someone really good, stands a big chance of failing and probably the next two guys after that. So it's maybe not a bad time to role the dice - Arteta is completely untried but he's a serious person, it's not like they're appointing Paul Ince or someone like that. There's a small chance he could make it.
Wenger's appointment was the greatest managerial decision in premiership history, in terms of risk-taking, so maybe they'll catch lightening in a bottle twice.
Risky for Arteta if he ends up with the position - might be hard to recover a managerial career if things go pear-shaped there. Used to love watching him at Everton so would like to see him do well.
Dunno, good to let him go now and get a new manager in well before next season.
That's contingent on getting someone better. The dildo brothers and Lady Brady's negotiating skills don't inspire confidence...
Big Sam needs a job....
Who the **** would want the West Haaaaaaaaam job?
Mind you..... working for Mike Ashley or the Chuckle Brothers....?
Right! Now all that nonsense is out of the way, on with the real issue of the day....
footy 😃
I’m not anticipating a nine goal thriller, to say the least
What is a nice touch, after his career with both clubs, is the trophy will be presented by Ray Wilkins wife
Who the **** would want the West Haaaaaaaaam job?
Pellegrini, he’s currently flying in from China to discuss the terms.
1 - 0 United in a snooze fest.
Game livening around the hour mark...so much diving, I was wondering where Tom Daley was playing?
Not the most entertaining of games but the right result as Chelsea got a pretty ropey deal from the officials. Jones should have seen red and the Young handball should have been a penalty. Why no VAR for that?? - it was pretty blatant.
Don’t get onto that subject again.....we’ll have another half dozen lengthy posts on the subject 😉
Would have been better to go out in the quarters for Jose there....
The big final is next week....
Rotherham v Shrewsbury. Up the millers!
That was dire! Awful! Got to say that when I saw Jones challenge I thought “well done... that’s us down to ten men” can’t believe he didn’t get a straight red for that
not that it did us any good. We were absolutely woeful first half, second half was a bit better but still awful.
its going to be interesting to see how many of that squad are still there next season.
I think city should put an offer in for Rashford after the world cup, give him a chance to fulfil his potential with a manager who develops players.