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So... is this the traditional wheels off the Arsenal bandwagon
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I disagree. An Arsenal three-goal comeback? In January? It is the end of days, I tell you.
Normal service would be a 3-1 thrashing and Arsene sulking at the ref.
As an aside, when was the last time the champions got relegated the following season? Only six points clear of the drop zone at the moment.
What do we reckon to this one then chaps? Could be anything! Hope it's as bonkers as this fixture last season with everyone hoofing each other off the pitch!
Looking forward to this! 😀
Last year wasn't a special memory for me 😐
Stamford Bridge worst stadium I have ever visted, last time I was there after fighting with the few Spurs fans the Chelsea fans started fighting each other. A few lots of coins thrown at players and a bottle (old days). My mate who is a Chelsea fan ahd to move his season ticket seats after a guy sat near them kept threatening his son week in week out. 4 fans convicted of racism in Paris yesterday.
My only direct experience of Chelseas delightful fans was listening to them all enthusiastically chanting racist songs, similar to the ones their repertoire consisted of in France. A lovely lot. Now whenever I see meatheaded England fans kicking off abroad, I automatically think 'I bet they're Chelsea'
I'll be supporting your lot tonight Jammers, old boy. 🙂
I wouldn't fancy Martin Atkinsons job tonight
Not a bad finish that, but it wasn't a scorpion kick so I'm not impressed 😉
I automatically think 'I bet they're Chelsea'
Nice stereotyping there.
Go to the top of the class with a prize for "I can't be arsed to engage my brain & realise that racism is prevalent in all walks of life & not limited to one demographic...."
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It seems to be quite prevalent in Chelsea fans though, doesn't it? More than any other club. Likeable bunch that they are, that I've had the 'pleasure' of witnessing in full on racist chanting action, in person. Maybe I dreamt it and they're all really really nice people?
Or Have you somehow missed the news this week? All the Chelsea racist stuff? Hardly a new phenomenon, is it? Always the same club. All following the example of their 'Club Legend'... a renowned racist, I suppose...
Hey ho
Anyway... always love seeing Chelsea lose. And I had money on a Spurs win, and on Deli Ali as man of the match at an inexplicable 9/1, so all in all, I enjoyed that.
Here's hoping it's the start of a string of defeats
Cheers! 😀
My experience of Chelsea fans is similar to binners.
More shitheads and racists per head than any other prem team by a country mile.
More than any other club.
Got a stat for that?
Or is that just your prejudice speaking?
IMHO it's more often than not a vocal minority - NOT the majority. But then after 30 years of following the club I could well be wrong.....
Happy to see your peer reviewed evidence that backs up your opinion....
First few hits on Google...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/revealed-chelsea-top-reported-racism-5387014
http://sabotagetimes.com/football/stat-shows-chelsea-west-ham-fans-racist-england
ICF?
Rangers?
Celtic?
Hammers?
Leeds?
Sunderland?
Stoke?
Blimey, open your eyes - racism & violence isn't the sole domain of one club.
Get out of your bubble!
the claim is chelsea are the worst,for racism, not that no other club has issues [ or that other issues are also involved in some football fans]...amusingly you are trying to move the goalposts.
I have no idea if its true or false but its not hard to work out what is being claimed
HOwever if you asked me to name a team with racist fans i think i would say a london club and probably chelsea . This is not peer reviewed mind 😉
I don't know if I'd say Chelsea are the most racist, but they do stand out along with certain others. I don't think anyone's claiming they are alone.
As for the vocal minority. Absolutely I agree, same as any other club. HOWEVER - and this was the big disappointment for me in the recent French case. One of the defendant's defence case was on the basis that he wasn't involved in the chanting, just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Even if it was just a couple of people / a few, the train carriage was packed with people in the same place at that same time, and I didn't see anyone step forward and stand up for the guy or try to stop the vocal minority.
They might not have been actively involved, but if Chelsea / football / society wants to stop this happening it's not good enough to 'not be involved' - you have to be actively against.
I'm not trying to move any goalposts.
I'm just fed up with hearing the same tired old stories of x y z.
IME I've yet to see a prem club visit the Bridge & their fans behave like saints.
What I do think is that sometimes CFC are pilloried, sometimes rightly so, by some as an attempt of deflection to hide the bigger picture that rasicsm & violence is still part of football culture ergo possibly something that their own club is guilty of too.
Like I said - bigger picture.
With his excellent defecting blame/changing the native I say ..... Bowski is Jose Mourinho and I claim my £5.
I've had Billy-Ray Cyrus and The White Strips on a constant loop going around in my head all night and this morning ... love it.
The league needed last nights result, lets hope this makes chelsea stumble for a couple more games and opens it all up for a competitive end to the season. Still think chelsea and liverpool have the advantage with the lack of european football, but a smart buy in the transfer window could swing it.
With his excellent defecting blame/changing the native I say ..... Bowski is Jose Mourinho and I claim my £5.
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Getting back to the topic, that was one of the best defensive performances I've seen. They caught Costa offside every time a ball went forward. Totally neutralised him and Pedro. Not easy to do.
It certainly livens things up. Like MSP I think its Chelsea and Liverpool that have the advantage, but it looks like anyone could beat anyone on any given day, at the moment. Should be a cracking end run in to the end of the season. Its not been this competitive for a long time.
Liverpool losing Mane to the African nations cup won't help their chances. And the Liverpool play Man U (A) and Chelski (H) in January. Of the top 6 Arsenal have the easiest run in January by far, so expect the top of the table to look different come the end of the month.
Interesting points raised. I have to say that based on my 30 years as a (dwindling) fan of the sport, my worst witnessed behaviour experiences have been Chelsea, West Ham and Villa fans.
Of course, its the minority letting them down, but it seems to me that thier minority is larger for some reason.
I've yet to see a prem club visit the Bridge & their fans behave like saints
Southampton have their fair share of numpties too.
Back on topic, I was impressed with Spurs last night, yet despite my soft spot for them I found myself routing for Chelski for one of the first times in my life as ABL fully kicks in.
Also, you just know deep in your soul that when it comes to a match that actually means something, Spurs will choke. I'd love to see them turn on the style against the big hitters come April/May though.
Conte was thoroughly gentlemanlike post match though eh? Refreshing.
it's quite amusing to to see fans of a club who like to sing 'The sun was right, You're murderers' handing out lectures on behaviour, bit of banter, all in good jest and jolly japes I suppose.
I would also take issue with the suggestion that Rangers and Celtic fans are especially racists. They hate you more for what school you went to rather than the colour of your skin.
Careful, or the grand sky wizard shall smite you.
Sort of....
Liverpool's last 6 or 7 games are pretty straightforward (on paper at least!) and if they manage to win one of the United or Chelsea games coming up they'll be in with a good chance. They have Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal all to play at home. Be interesting to see Chelsea's response to last nights result.
my worst witnessed behaviour experiences have been Chelsea, West Ham and Villa fans.
West Ham racist?
Surely not?
Haven't seen the game (thought it was away 😳 ) but a good result against a form team. Chelsea must be gutted to concede two headers from Al and they where thenonly chances on target 🙂 You can't undo the past (last years scrap) but that's a confidence building win.
they are sectarian haters on that we will all agree.I would also take issue with the suggestion that Rangers and Celtic fans are especially racists. They hate you more for what school you went to rather than the colour of your skin.
Whether this is racism or not is a point not worth having IMHO
Glad I dont have to deal with it anymore though.
Anyone else watching the fa cup game tonight?
West Ham looked like they'd weathered the storm and suddenly it looks all over!
Very soft penalty (well it shouldn't have been one) and then dreadful defending after that for the other 2. Horror miss at 0-1 mind WHU are a bit rubbish, dunno what's happened to the team from last year.
That miss has proven horrifically costly. City look like one of those teams that can just go up through the gears at will and pick them off when they want to
It's going to be interesting to see where everyone is by the end of today. All the top teams look strong at the moment. Spurs looked awesome yesterday! And Chelsea didn't miss Costa at all
Here's hoping for a better Liverpool v United game than the truly dire affair at Anfield
Spurs did look good but it was West Brom.
Jose won't want to loose, Man U to sit back ?
just hoping its a good game tbh
We have the form but you can never tell as the derby games are a bit like cup matches.
Good to see a top 6 though as it makes for a more dynamic league than we have had for a while as there are some quality teams there
On present form, it should be a United win. But it never works like that against Liverpool. They are indeed like cup games. The only thing I'm betting on is Fellaini getting booked 🙂
As Fergie said... "football... bloody hell!" 😯
An absolute kicking for city, topped off with an absolute howler from John Stones! Another bad day at the office for Pep
A win now would see us level with City on points!
don't think Everton got the bayern/barca roll over theres a good chap script.
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that favourite view of Pablo ambling back while the oppo score 😉
Neville as a pundit/commentator on this match!!!!!
Very funny
ref has realised he has awarded a pen against man utd at home and will now spend the rest of the match trying to make ammends.
He better bloody not!
Well Pogba seems to be doing his best to get sent off. 😯
His heads gone. Jose needs to get him off! He's having a shocker!
reminded me of Poborsky running around a lot but looks like he does not really know what to do]
Penalty aside it was a fairly even match with chances for both sides
At lease we seem to be trying to out pass the Gegenpress if only we were more successful