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Dunno how you check the engine wear after one flight. I suspect the honeycomb the turbines are sealed against is probably the biggest problem, that suff is the reason emirates planes need more services than anyone else.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:05 pm
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Ekranoplan? 500knots, 20-60 feet cruise height and possibly the coolest way to travel! 🙂


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:06 pm
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Channel 4 are reporting that Nato F16's have sufffered engine damage from ash 'ingestion'


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:11 pm
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... and flying one plane safely is very different to filling the skies with loads of full planes carrying passengers, especially when almost all airports run at capacity with not much spare runway space to cope with problems.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:12 pm
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Ekranoplan? 500knots, 20-60 feet cruise height and possibly the coolest way to travel!

EKRANOPLAN!!!!! Yay! 😀

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Posted : 19/04/2010 12:12 pm
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The blue sky on Saturday with no clouds and no vapour trails was wonderful, so more of those please!


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:26 pm
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+1 for Ekranoplans. Absolutely awesome devices, in the true sense of the word.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:45 pm
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weren't they supposed to be the US's worst nightmare come true being almost completely invisible to radar and sonar?

Untill they found out that they took so much computing power to keep them in the 'air' they had no space left to carry any wepons!


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:50 pm
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Worst case scenario, my 2 year stay in Ethiopia, becomes longer...

I was hoping to come home in a couple of weeks as well...

What happens if my flight is cancelled? Do I get my money back?


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:51 pm
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Untill they found out that they took so much computing power to keep them in the 'air' they had no space left to carry any wepons!

I'd imagine you can get an app for that now though. 🙂


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 12:54 pm
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Volcanic ash shags planes completely - fact. If you think you can dodge the clouds of ash (that you can't see) then okay.. but I'll not be on that plane.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 1:29 pm
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Ekranoplans are great. But how do I fly to the middle of Europe with one?


 
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Posted : 19/04/2010 1:36 pm
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clever use of a wide angle lens to make that shoebox look like a room


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 1:40 pm
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That's not a room its the inside of a container.
Now there's an idea for super easy cruise just furnish a container ship.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 1:49 pm
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but I'll not be on that plane.

Molgrips, earlier:

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Posted : 19/04/2010 1:49 pm
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Nanny state strikes again. Wonder what the odds are for being on a plane that is brought down by volcanic ash? I'm due to fly on Saturday and prepared to take my chances.


 
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Hardly the 'nanny state' if 'planes have been grounded because there is a clear risk of damage, and of loss of life.. 🙄

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8629674.stm ]I notice BA want 'compensation' from th EU and the Government for being grounded. [/url]

FFS, so, can I sue the Government if there's a sudden unexpected thunderstorm that means I get soaked, or have to stay at home???


 
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Nanny state strikes again. Wonder what the odds are for being on a plane that is brought down by volcanic ash? I'm due to fly on Saturday and prepared to take my chances.

Well, seeing as there are 2 confirmed reports of planes flying through ash clouds and one was a BA flight that lost power to all 4 engines, I'd say about 50/50. 😛


 
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I have my folding bike. How long to cycle back? [ages]


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:13 pm
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What’s the difference between the Icelandic volcano and Cheryl Cole?

The volcano is still blowing Ash.

Try the veal! I'm here all week!

IGMC


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:24 pm
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worst case scenario-loss of air traffic!?!

anybody heard of the Laki fissure? year without a summer etc- global cooling, destruction of crops, worldwide famine, water course acidity...millions will die....millions!!!!

well it could happen thats all im saying, volcanoes are the number 1 risk to human extinction i.m.o.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:31 pm
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i liked the way Willie Walsh went up on the test flight, i bet the transport union were praying it didn't go well

I bet Willie was wishing they'd gone on strike this week too 😆


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:31 pm
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volcanoes are the number 1 risk to human extinction i.m.o.

statistically speaking i'd imagine humans present the biggest risk of human extinction


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:32 pm
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volcanoes are the number 1 risk to human extinction i.m.o.

How do volcanoes stop human extinction?

😀


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:33 pm
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possibly true, although the chances of total human extinction by humans is lower due to self preservation which would (hopefully) ensure some people survived...unlike the numerous volcanoes, calderas and super volcanoes which are far less forgiving.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:35 pm
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WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEEEDDDDDD!!!!!!!!

Run away, run away...!


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:37 pm
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😆 if i had the spare time id love to dress like a crazy man with a billboard and spread such optimistic words 😀


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:39 pm
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Human ingenuity knows no bounds. See that volcano joke above. Amazing.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 2:59 pm
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OK, I shall start taking bets -

I'm off on holiday to India next Fridey (1st [u]May[/u] - Date corrected for the clever clogs of STW!) evening. Will I -

a) Leave and return as planned - 3:1
b) Go nowhere - Evens
c) Get stuck in Dheli - 6:1
d) Die on the way out - 4:1
e) Die on the way back - 8:1


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 3:02 pm
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well you'd be a month late for a start


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 3:03 pm
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I am about to book flights for 17th May...


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 3:08 pm
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currently booked to go to barcalona for the gp in 3 weeks begining to think it may not happen


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 3:21 pm
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currently booked to go to barcalona for the gp in 3 weeks begining to think it may not happen

I reckon it'll be OK by them

as for the GP - that's one of the most boring of the season - usually
so it may be a blessing in disguise 😉


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 3:24 pm
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Was there an evil lair inside this cave that is no longer?


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 3:24 pm
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goog:
can't the Americans blow it up, that usually fixes things, no ?

Zing!


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 3:27 pm
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I think it's rumoured that the pilot on that Polish plane was told to MTFU. I think we all know how that went!

Personally, I'd rather not be on a plane, when however dead-pan, the captain tells you this:

Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control. I trust you are not in too much distress.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 3:27 pm
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As zokes says, I wouldn't want to hear a cabin announcement like that one from the 1982 incident.
I really think we should be bringing back super-sized airships. Modern composites and coating materials would produce huge bulk cargo lifters and passenger carriers for people who don't want to rush about. Flying across the Atlantic at 150ft sitting by an open window looking out at the ocean has a lot of appeal.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 7:02 pm
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Willie Walsh wants the Governments to compensate the airlines.

Is it April Fools day?


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 7:04 pm
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Countzero, i live for the day airships come back! 🙂 there will still be plenty of nae sayers tho...


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 7:15 pm
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Airships would be amazing, no zeppelins though, don't fancy being onboard a gas bomb


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 7:16 pm
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Flying across the Atlantic at 150ft sitting by an open window looking out at the ocean has a lot of appeal.

At an average speed of about 60mph...

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Posted : 19/04/2010 7:18 pm
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To come back to the filters suggestion, from WWAAAYYYY up there ^^^

Gas fired CCGT power stations use gas turbines and they are filtered, so that technology is available. But, (and I'm making a massive assumption that you could actually make some sort of frame to stop them being pushed straight into the engine by the pressure of a few hundred MPH and still light enough to let the aircraft fly) what do think would happen when that filter entered an atmosphere loaded with enough dust to knacker a plane?

It would block up = no air to engine = no power = big metal glider.

If it were possible they would already do it to extend blade life.


 
Posted : 19/04/2010 7:20 pm
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Worst case scenario?

Just had a call from MrsSwadey's hairdresser to say she is stranded in Jersey waiting for space on the ferry, so tomorrows cut and blow dry is off......


 
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After watching this Countzero, I'm with you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qpjpr/b00qpjp3/Around_the_World_by_Zeppelin/

They knew how to travel in style back then


 
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