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Of course it wasn't spontaneous. But their reaction to it was - clearly went better than they expected!


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 3:20 pm
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So the propshaft also unbolted itself cleanly from all four bolts on the diff drive flange?

You must be looking at a different picture. The propshaft yoke is still there, busted.

It isn't a flange yoke (f'nar), is that what you are thinking of?


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 3:57 pm
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I think unbolted rather than busted. It isn't a flange 🙂 - more a pair of saddles that clamp the UJ spider. Similar to this I think:-

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/all-years/pontiac/firebird/parts/m12114.html


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 4:17 pm
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It isn't a flange; that's what I said...

I assume Mick was assuming something like...

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Posted : 11/02/2020 4:31 pm
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Is electrolysing water to enrich intake air with oxygen a common technique? My counting on fingers sums reckon one litre of water would yield about 20,000 litres of oxygen, or about 1-2 hours worth. Haven't worked out how much electrical energy you'd need to generate, other than "a lot".


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 6:43 pm
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I wondered that. It's certainly not something your average ex-international cricketer would throw in overnight after a days filming!


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 7:28 pm
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I wondered that. It’s certainly not something your average ex-international cricketer would throw in overnight after a days filming!

Sure, but every TG / TGT adventure had them "modifying" their vehicles overnight into something which clearly took an engineering team a fortnight to do! TG was always well known (and, to be fair, they've never hidden it) for being quite tightly scripted from start to finish.

Funny story: years ago, they won an award for "best unscripted show" in the USA and they wanted to send Richard Porter ("script editor") to collect the award, but they didn't think the organisers would find the joke as funny as they did.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 8:29 pm
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OK I'm bored of this 🙂

Pontiac diff pinion yoke. Unbolted.

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Posted : 11/02/2020 8:54 pm
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Well, I must say, just watching the rerun and I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would - last series really put me off, but the positivity on here made me give it a go and glad I did. Harris is still the best thing about it (sorry Drac), but Freddie's much better and even Paddy isn't too obnoxious. Might keep watching...


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 9:02 pm
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Harris has much improved now he seems more relaxed or finally realised it’s not just about reviewing cars.


 
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I read somewhere that May was thinking of chucking it in as he’s getting too old to be chucked around the world in knackered cars. It’ll be sad when it happens, but I’m at least confident now that there will be a decent alternative when it does.

If you've not watched it already, then check our "james May, our man in Japan" on amazon prime. Interesting show and he is great in it.

Harris has much improved now he seems more relaxed or finally realised it’s not just about reviewing cars.

Seems like he is comfortable and happy with those two, just doing something he really enjoys and it shows.


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 9:56 am
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I think the only part of the show that doesn't work is the studio part but I think that is partly down to Flintoff not being very good at it.
Flintoff has grown on me, he seemed very much at home recording to camera in the VW and seemed very genuine with his love for it. Paddy is ok but it kind of feels like something is missing like he has to try harder.
Overall it is better series this time so far.


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 10:48 am
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^^^ Agreed.

Paddy = Clarkson (loud and obnoxious)

Freddie = Hammond (daft as a brush and as excitable as a puppy)

Chris = May (knowledgable and the 'grown up')


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 10:59 am
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I think it's a shame there isn't a change of direction, it's the same with 3 different younger presenters

It also is a shame that Porsche can't spend tens of millions of euros making an electric car with a usable range, like 500 miles + rather than a very excludive and pointlessy fast sports coupe


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 1:31 pm
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rather than a very excludive and pointlessy fast sports coupe

That's kind of what Porsche does! 🙂


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 1:36 pm
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It also is a shame that Porsche can’t spend tens of millions of euros making an electric car with a usable range, like 500 miles +

Probably because the majority of people's usable range is around 100 miles. Don't mistake your own requirement with the majority of people. Although saying that, a 600 BHP electric car is not really usable (which even Harris admits)


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 1:38 pm
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It also is a shame that Porsche can’t spend tens of millions of euros making an electric car with a usable range, like 500 miles + rather than a very excludive and pointlessy fast sports coupe

I think you misunderstood what Porsche are.


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 1:44 pm
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On the other hand. Just think what they could be!


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 1:55 pm
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On the other hand. Just think what they could be!

VW ID range or Taycan 4S.


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 2:02 pm
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They could become the class leader in green motoring. By making a quick car that s really well bolted together, quick but not stupid fast, with a real world range of 400 miles plus and the benefit of fast charging somewhere in between 240v 13a and 270kw

The gov earn 26 billion a year from fuel duty that will have to be covered by taxing electricity and hikes in rfl in line with economy and or performance

Building hypercars for the tiny minority is a great wheeze, but in the world of thunberg are still polluting and not great for the next generation, till we go ful regen power, no nuclear or Dino juice and find lithium in a more environmentally sensitive way


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 3:19 pm
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Perhaps Trabant or Lada could build it and we'd all have a single eco-friendly peoples car!


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 3:23 pm
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By making a quick car that s really well bolted together, quick but not stupid fast

you do know that you can control the speed with the pedal on the right... and that there's a direct correlation between speed and range?
Yes but anybody 'could' do that and they'll leave that to them. Porsche like to make quick cars - they're always going to and have invested a lot of money in making [their LM] hybrid cars go quick - so why not use that knowledge.
There are other versions of the Taycan that won't be as quick as the Turbo S.


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 3:26 pm
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They could become the class leader in green motoring. By making a quick car that s really well bolted together, quick but not stupid fast, with a real world range of 400 miles plus and the benefit of fast charging somewhere in between 240v 13a and 270kw

Indeed under one of their other brands VW, Skoda or AUDI.


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 3:45 pm
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with a real world range of 400 miles plus and the benefit of fast charging somewhere in between 240v 13a and 270kw

That's a significantly larger range than my relatively frugal diesel.


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 4:54 pm
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Then your relatively frugal deisel either a. - isn't relatively frugal or in terms of relative are you comparing it to a container ship that does 1meter per gallon or
B. - your car has a 40 ltr tank ang gets 40mpg so 360 miles, whereas my relatively frugal car can go 700 and is shit.
Porsche could charge more than vw or seat and get more for the car on the focourt. The Porsche would depreciate less, be a nicer place to sit, better equipped, better paint, better suspension, better steering, nicer radio all stuff which bumps up the price to a prohibitive point that you would not spend on a lower specced vw group car.
Tesla rx at £95000 type of money, but screwed together properly with nice plastics and leather but of carbon here and there, some nice brushed ally detailing inside.
If that Porsche is 2.4tonnes then even driving it slowly would use alot of power, that's a chunk of mass to accelerate and haul uphill, cruising along a flat road at 65mph should be sensible but like the tesla with the button marked silly, use the power and the range drops remarkably quickly


 
Posted : 13/02/2020 7:28 pm
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Interesting episode.   It is getting better but thought the Baha piece was - naturally - an anti climax.   Good to see Harris getting the serious reviews, loved that Renault.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 9:08 am
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Excellent again - I really liked that the Baha piece showed up a failure, not like their regular "adventure" pieces.

That Renault was mental! Like the old V6 Clio. If I hàd the money to buy and run a £72k I'm not sure which of those three I'd have though


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 9:13 am
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It would have to be the Lambo. If you ignore the running costs. Anyone fancy kerbing those carbon fibre wheels on the Renault!


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 9:53 am
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Porsche could charge more than vw or seat and get more for the car on the focourt. The Porsche would depreciate less, be a nicer place to sit, better equipped, better paint, better suspension, better steering, nicer radio all stuff which bumps up the price to a prohibitive point that you would not spend on a lower specced vw group car.

That's going to happen with the next Macan - basically an Audi Q5/VW Tiguan/One of the Skoda K things (RIP Yeti). They aren't going to release any more internal combustion Macans.

The fact that, being a compact SUV, they're a hateful car in their own right, regardless of how good they are, is another subject.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 10:06 am
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Turned off when Mr & Mrs Fox appeared as I had to put the duvet cover back on.

Hope that they a) get back to Baja b) got a refund on the POS that they hired for the race.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 10:31 am
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...got a refund on the POS that they hired for the race.

Yeah, in the scene in the garage when they were doing the prep I'm sure someone referred to them being a proper professional race team, then the hattery fails on the start line and the GPS doesn't work. Very professional! The co-driver seemed to notice that drive belt had failed rather easily - no cover over it to protect from debris maybe? Seemed like a right bunch of dunces.


 
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Last night’s episode was the worst of the series so far I thought and had the ‘celebrity’ section back which is soooooo dull now. It really needs killing off.

Paddy was particularly irritating this week too.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 10:56 am
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Last night’s episode was the worst of the series so far I thought and had the ‘celebrity’ section back which is soooooo dull now. It really needs killing off.

Paddy was particularly irritating this week too.

Worst of the series? Well maybe,

The first was the Nepal special which was great, the second involved the Metro bungee which was an eye opener, then the F22 v the Speedtail in Ep3 and last week was Peru... I'd go as far to say the least good in a series which has a pretty high bar.

For me, New, New Top Gear has finally found it's way - it's no longer 3 Men trying to be May, Hammond and Clarkson and a lot of the challenges are similar they're at least being more of themselves about it. I can't imagine Clarkson and Co racing Baja, out of their comfort zone and too high a risk of well, a DNF after half a stage.

Downsides, I don't think Freddie will ever be a natural in front of the camera in the Studio and Paddy is a bit of a 3rd wheel sometimes, but by and large it's better than watching the East Enders omnibus


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 11:14 am
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Oh, I probably should have mentioned,

Turned off when Mr & Mrs Fox appeared as I had to put the duvet cover back on.

I was conflicted. He's clearly a bell end, but she's on my list of 6.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 11:23 am
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I was conflicted. He’s clearly a bell end, but she’s on my list of 6.

Same, he's always managed to ride under the radar, but since he started spouting off on Twitter he's really relived himself a complete dick. Last night only reinforced that for me.

"Mr and Mrs Fox".

What's weird for me is they seem like a couple, they even seem, to me at least, to sell that idea, but they're not they're cousins.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 11:26 am
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but they’re not they’re cousins.

I had some cousins that were a bit too close. 6 fingered kids everywhere.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 12:29 pm
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Definitely the worst of the series so for but still very watchable so that is pretty good sign that things have improved.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 12:34 pm
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I was conflicted. He’s clearly a bell end, but she’s on my list of 6.

So very much this.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 1:30 pm
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What’s weird for me is they seem like a couple, they even seem, to me at least, to sell that idea, but they’re not they’re cousins.

He was quite handsy, wasn’t he. Definitely closer than I am with my cousins - but maybe that’s how posh people keep money in their families. 😂


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 2:55 pm
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Yeah, in the scene in the garage when they were doing the prep I’m sure someone referred to them being a proper professional race team, then the hattery fails on the start line and the GPS doesn’t work. Very professional!

It did occur to me that maybe the BBC budget didn’t stretch to hiring a competitive car and team, but maybe went far enough to hire a bit of a no-hoper. Ie, they knew that they’d fail, but it would make no difference because they’d still get a film out of it.

Do the normal teams usually drive in relay? (I haven’t checked, so this is a genuine question.)


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 2:58 pm
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Definitely the worst of the series so for but still very watchable so that is pretty good sign that things have improved.

I think this sums it up for me. Obviously some people want to over react, spout an opinion and make personal remarks, cos that's not caused any issues this week has it? If you don't like it, turn it off.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 3:51 pm
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I had some cousins that were a bit too close. 6 fingered kids everywhere.

Most people fancy at least one of their cousins. I know I do.

Lawrence Fox is a proper bell end though.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 3:57 pm
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Most people fancy at least one of their cousins. I know I do.

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Really, I'm from a family of munters so, it's not something I'm familiar with.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 4:02 pm
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Another good episode probably been much better if the Baha hadn’t been a total disaster.


 
Posted : 17/02/2020 9:56 pm
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Turned off when Mr & Mrs Fox appeared as I had to put the duvet cover back on.

No idea who either of them are

If they could just give Paddy the boot and bring in somebody who isn't a complete **** it would be much better.


 
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