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She doesn't like being driven in it, it's too uncomfortable. It's main useage is going to be holidays and longer family trips.
Passat.
Holidays and longer family trips?
VW Touran
Stick with this car my wife doesn’t like
Who wear the trousers in your house?
*ducks and covers*
My wife hates my car - she has her own car though and I hate that so all's good! 🙂
E class for sure!
Jesus wept! Can you not just buy a cushion for the passenger seat?
She doesn’t like being driven in it, it’s too uncomfortable
A cushion?
EDIT: 5mins too slow
At least enjoy it for a bit first now you've fixed it.
My Mrs thinks my car is now too uncomfortable. Only happened since she got an SUV, we've had my saloon for 18 years ! Yes the SUV is lovely and wafty, but you aren't going to 'press on' on a country road, and it's a bit wallowy round bends.
Pick a car from a more reliable manufacturer.
Can you not just buy a cushion for the passenger seat?
There *is* an alternative use for that cushion that could be considered...
Who wear the trousers in your house?
We both do, of course.
Touran - considered it. Bit less plush than Passat, no?
E-Class estates are ugly, but they do have the self levelling rear suspension as standard which is a big plus. Passats don't have it even as an option any more as far as I can tell.
A cushion?
Go the whole hog and fit an air suspension passenger seat from a lorry cab.
I could get new wheels for the CLS but that's expensive and I don't have any idea how much difference it'd make. It has stupid 19s on it now.
Having had a Touran for 3 years (after a Passat) I would urge you to look elsewhere. Horrible narrow wallowy thing it was. 5 of the 7 seats are cramped for adults. Joyless car.
No one sets out to buy a Touran. They just end up with one.
Does your wife like the E-Class?
She thinks they look ugly (as I do) but we haven't been in one. I should find one to test drive I suppose.
Do you want to buy a nice low mileage Renault Scenic?
Very comfy for your wife and a host of irritating electrical problems for you to entertain yourself and the forum with?
Special price for you.
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She thinks they look ugly (as I do)
Life's too short to be having ugly vehicles - stick with what you've got (with higher profile tyres if required) or choose something you both admire 😊
Maybe it’s time for a new wife?
My wife is pretty picky about cars - she didn’t like my Jaguar XE much as it felt too claustrophobic. She didn’t like my Seat Leon as it sounded like a tractor and was a bit low rent inside. She didn’t mind my Citroen DS5 at the time - but in hindsight it was her favourite car to be driven in as the seats were so comfortable. It was a pretty good car tbh - other than being a bit wallowy.
If you want a bit estate then a Jaguar XF Sportbrake is worth a look - I got one a few months back and I love it. Drives well and is pretty fun for something so big, has a decent interior, plenty of toys, a zf 8 speed gearbox, self levelling rear suspension and the boot is pretty big. I’m running it in portfolio spec with the 250ps petrol engine but for the same price I could have had the 3 litre diesel V6 if diesel is more your bag.
And the wife thinks it’s comfortable and feels more solid / safer than any of my last cars. Win / win.
I’ve got 245 / 40 / 19’s on it and it isn’t crashy/ bumpy at all. I think Jag have done a brilliantly jog of balancing wafty suspension with something that still steers and handles well.
Other than petrol fuel consumption - 25mpg seems to be about the average. I’d assume the diesel is considerably better.
Hmm I might take a look at the Jag but max budget 15k, preferably 13k. That gets you a facelifted E Class or a facelifted Passat.
The CLS only gave me 39 today which is frankly shocking. My old Passat would have been at least high 40s on that trip probably more, and the newer ones should be better again.
It's not exactly crashy with 19s on, but it is pretty firm. When driving it's not sombad but as a passenger I can see howmit would be annoying. It is also pretty noisy from the boot. Not sure if it's the P-Zero rear tyres, or the fact they are 19, but it's annoying and the reviews praised the quietness.
I'd dearly love a V6 diesel which are plentiful and not expensive in the E Class but fuel economy.
I’ve got 245 / 40 / 19’s on it and it isn’t crashy/ bumpy at all.
That's a fair bit more rubber - mine are 285/30/R19 on the back.
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If it helps, RNP, I feel like that myself at times 🙂
If you want a comfortable estate, I'd have thought Volvo's would be worth a look.
Mmm yes, which one though? V70 for big holiday trips I suppose.
I looked at the first two posts and jumped to the end wondering why there a 20 page thread about a Merc estate. Still none the wiser, maybe I should read it haha
However, noticed the gearbox comment - probably mentioned before, but Merc boxes are notoriously bad. Even the prevcious gen C63 AMG was reportedly ruined by the box
She thinks they look ugly (as I do)
That's what you wrote - but did you mean
She thinks (as I do) they look ugly
I think it’s about time you bought something French Molls.
@Greybeard lol
However, noticed the gearbox comment – probably mentioned before, but Merc boxes are notoriously bad.
Well... hmm. Thing is, reviewers praised it at the time. Now there are some foibles that I can appreciate an AMG owner would hate. For example, in manual mode the shifts aren't quick. They are smooth and they don't break power, but they happen about a second after you actually press the paddle. That would drive me nuts on a performance car and is possibly why AMG now have a dual clutch system instead of the TC. However on a normal car, not much of an issue. Mine is generally pretty good now since I did the work on it. It's smooth, but not what you'd call crisp like a DSG; but it is more intelligent than the one on the Passat. It holds its gears through corners, and it changes down when you go down a hill. Basically a lot more like you would drive yourself in a manual.
I think it’s about time you bought something French Molls.
Funny you mention it, I'm actually thinking we could do a trade over the weekend, my C8 for his Merc. See how long Mrs Molgrips lasts before begging him to trade back the Merc. I have sod all better to do on a week off right now and if you really want to seal the deal you can have her help you trace the intermittent fuel leak and find out why/where it appears to spray oil all over the engine bay.
molgrips - my bro-in-law had the v70 Allroad or whatever its called.
Amazingly comfortable.
My father in law has an XC70, is that the one you mean? The older model was pretty much normal car shape, unlike the modern one, except with 4wd and a little more clearance. That one's lovely.
Not enough though, as it turned out, to make it through Pucker Pass near Moab. Driving up there was terrifying, turning around to drive back down after failing to get through the tight bit was even worse.
BMW 5 touring.
Not an m sport one, look for a SE in your budget. M sports tend to be firmer suspension.
All have air levelling rear sus, mine has sensible 225/55/17s on, proper comfort.
Erm. Yeah, maybe it was xc70. Like a jacked up estate car... rather than an SUV.
I looked at the first two posts and jumped to the end wondering why there a 20 page thread about a Merc estate. Still none the wiser, maybe I should read it haha
Molgrips bought a fancy Merc with a wobble.
Fixes it like a hero.
Still doesn't really like it - never did, truth be known.
Blames wife.
Next:
Buys an E63 estate.
Loses licence.
Moly's just having a troll flavoured laugh at your (our) expense. After all the grief he got up to fixing it, he's dishing it back out with his story of getting rid.
Even he's not that daft (is he?). 🙃
Just change the wheels, man. Get some old 14" steels with huge, hgh profile tyres. It'll look ace in a mini monster truck way and your wife'll love the soft, bouncy ride and wallowy cornering. Plus you won't have to buy another faulty wife.
Have you changed the wheels yet?
£5-700 for new wheels and then tyres on top of that.
I can see how smaller wheels would add cushioning on rough roads but I don't know what the effect would be on general comfort so I don't know if that's a better choice than changing the car.
Can't you get small wheels second hand from someone who upgraded to the big rims. Then sell the big rims to someone else who wants to look gansta. I imagine the relative desirability/value of each would mean you'd have a bit left for the new tyres.