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So I've got this Mercedes and I have questions

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@squirrelking - now when you say bus, do you mean Dub or similar, or do you mean Bristol VR or AEC Routemaster? 🤔


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 10:39 am
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I dunno what sort of comedy you're expecting. I'm not a bad mechanic.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 10:53 am
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I think we'll be the judge of that Molls.

Get taking it apart and post plenty of pictures 😉


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 10:55 am
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We know you are a decent mechanic Molgrips - but you do have a propensity to take on the wrong task at the wrong time.

Its lighthearted joshing not character assassination.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 11:03 am
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Only thing I'd say is see if you disconnect the rack and move anything can you reset the steering angle sensor or is that a Star job.

Other than that I'd say crack on.

Just make sure you can get a hoist or at least a good trolley jack in with room to jiggle the block. I doubt you'll need much

Got any pics of the new mounts? Are they just on m12 bolts?


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 11:05 am
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I dunno what sort of comedy you’re expecting. I’m not a bad mechanic.

I think it's the timing of things that is comedy - I half expect you to undertake a Haynes 5spanner rating job on the Merc the day before you move house/take wife in labour to hospital/go on family staycation etc


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 11:17 am
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Only thing I’d say is see if you disconnect the rack and move anything can you reset the steering angle sensor or is that a Star job.

Hmm good point. The official Merc instructional video on YT for this car doesn't mention it, but I'll have another search.

I think it’s the timing of things that is comedy – I half expect you to undertake a Haynes 5spanner rating job on the Merc the day before you move house/take wife in labour to hospital/go on family staycation etc

That's fair. It's the kind of thing I'd do. And have done. However it's the other way round this time. I need the car on the 15th and the garage could only fit me in on the 14th. This way I have way more time.

It's happening anyway. Managed to get the low profile front end on the ramps with the aid of some blocks of wood.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 11:50 am
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TJ has it 100% molly - this thread always brightens my day! Kettle’s on and fresh packet of rich tea opened 😀


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 12:00 pm
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How do you feel about live streaming Molls?


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 12:01 pm
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We need pics


 
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It’s happening anyway. Managed to get the low profile front end on the ramps with the aid of some blocks of wood.

Oh yes, that's what we like to hear.
When is the next key appointment that you 100% need a full functioning car by?


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 12:12 pm
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Alright. Later. I'm doing paid work at the same time.

When is the next key appointment that you 100% need a full functioning car by?

I don't really - worst case I'd take the other one to the Lakes in 4 weeks' time.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 12:13 pm
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It’s happening anyway. Managed to get the low profile front end on the ramps with the aid of some blocks of wood.

oh ****, here we go!


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 12:50 pm
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What was Brittany Spears first hit single called, i cant quite remember.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 1:04 pm
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Oh Lord, won't you fix my
Mercedes Benz?
I mullered my Passat
I must make amends

I worked hard all my lifetime
Mocked by STW "friends"
Oh Lord, won't you fix my
Mercedes Benz?

Sorry, but I'm puerile!


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 1:10 pm
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What was Brittany Spears first hit single called, i cant quite remember.

😂


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 1:24 pm
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Top work FB-ATB

Eagerly awaiting status update........


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 1:25 pm
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I was quite looking forward to photographic evidence of the “…and simply remove the steering rack” bit 😂

Oh, I've seen this movie before. "... using a suitable drift" - you're gonna need a two-foot length of bannister rail and an eight kilo sledge.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 2:00 pm
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If I'd just bought a £50k (new) car at 8 years old and discovered that the only remedial work it needed was a couple of mounts @ £600 fitted, I'd be pleased as punch.

I've just bought a 3 year old car and spent significantly more than that getting the niggles sorted.

Your lack of patience/determination to prove the internet wrong/spendthriftyness is somewhat admirable!


 
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I was quite looking forward to photographic evidence of the “…and simply remove the steering rack” bit 😂

Oh, I've seen this movie before. "... using a suitable drift" - you're gonna need a two-foot length of bannister rail and an eight kilo sledge.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 2:00 pm
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I've got my fingers crossed that it all goes smooth as silk for you MG. I wouldn't have the confidence to do that sort of job myself, it would have gone straight into the garage so hats off.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 2:01 pm
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If I’d just bought a £50k (new) car at 8 years old and discovered that the only remedial work it needed was a couple of mounts @ £600 fitted, I’d be pleased as punch.

Give it time! 🙂


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 4:06 pm
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@timbog160 none of the above, bingo bus (Citroen C8).

@fb-atb I think you just won the thread.

oh ****, here we go!

This forum needs to up its gif game.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 4:41 pm
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This forum needs to up its gif game.

Molgrips, tomorrow:


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 4:58 pm
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Is there a Mrs Molgrips?


 
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Posted : 21/09/2021 5:11 pm
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Couldn't leave it half finished (and a boring Teams meeting)

Oh Lord, won't you fix my
Mercedes Benz?
I’ve mullered my Passat
I must make amends

I worked hard all my lifetime
Mocked by STW “friends”
Oh Lord, won't you fix my
Mercedes Benz?

Oh Lord, won't you find me
A sunglasses holder?
Suffering these comments
Is a burden I shoulder

You all think you’re funny
But the jokes getting older
Oh Lord, won't you find me
A sunglasses holder?

Oh Lord, won't you settle
Marvin’s engine mounts?
Trade Centre Wales
Won’t be held to account

Mechanical hassles
You love me to recount
Oh Lord, won't you settle
Marvin’s engine mounts?

Oh Lord, won't you fix my
Mercedes Benz?
I’ve mullered my Passat
I must make amends

I worked hard all my lifetime
Mocked by STW “friends”
Oh Lord, won't you fix my
Mercedes Benz?


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 6:41 pm
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Thats the work of genius!🤣


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 6:42 pm
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Really funny!!


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 6:46 pm
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Apologies to Mols & Janis


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 7:08 pm
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To be fair that song has been stuck in my head since I bought the damn thing.


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 7:52 pm
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That reworking is a classic. I'm sure we must have a musical bod who can record it....


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 8:07 pm
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Just to remind you, Molly, that we're not mocking, we're totally behind you. I love your work and admire your tenacity to get to the bottom of things.

Please post up that old photo of your Passat in pieces if you have it - I can't Google it but I've never see anything more "holy shit!" when I saw it - genuinely impressive stuff and I wish you all the best with this current endeavour.

But yeah. Photos.


 
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Posted : 21/09/2021 8:39 pm
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Mrs Molgrips earlier

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(crap meme generator)


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 8:48 pm
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FB-ATB

brilliant - a tad cruel but - fabulous darling!


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 9:24 pm
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Chapeau FB!


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 9:30 pm
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Thanks @bearnecesessities - you mean this one?

Or this one?


 
Posted : 21/09/2021 10:14 pm
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2nd one, that's it!


 
Posted : 22/09/2021 12:04 am
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Right, well I went down to take the steering rack. First problem, my ball joint splitter's too small. No worries, that's easily fixable. I have given myself loads of time so I only need to do a bit now and then. Another look suggests that removing the rack should easily free up enough space to get the mounts out. So far so good.

Then I undid the first bolt, and it came undone then span. That's right - Mercedes, the sadistic bastards, have put free non-captive nuts on the other side of everything, and they're impossible to get at from the other side. That was a soul-crushing revelation. I stared at it for a bit feeling pretty despondent, thinking about the £400 that the mechanic might cost. Whilst down there I thought I'd take the rear undertray off and have a look at the rear gearbox mount. That proved more complex than I thought too. However, on my way back out to the front of the car I took another look at the steering rack, and without the gearbox undertray on everything is suddenly accessible! Well, I say accessible - I mean with extreme contortion and a very specific combination of tools - but I managed it. Two rack bolts out, the steering column disconnected, and the other two I can get at.

So it's looking good. I just need a bigger balljoint splitter and hopefully I'll be able to get the rack off and make enough space to get the mounts out.

There's only one problem bolt left, I think. The mounts look basically like this but not the same - there's two bolts on the bottom of mine and the casting is different. Same basic concept though:

On mine, the top bolt on the left is clearly visible from above but I can't get a socket on it with any combination of extensions and universal joints. The internet says you need a ring spanner with a socket attachment on one end like this:

I bought these, but it doesn't help from the top. I'm hoping I'll be able to use it from underneath to loosen off the top bolt. I've got plenty of time though to try things, which is good.


 
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🤞


 
Posted : 22/09/2021 9:12 pm
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Also need to get new bolts from Merc as they appear to be stretch bolts. A huge advantage of owning a Merc instead of a VW is that the Merc dealer is a pleasant 10 minute walk away as opposed to a 15 minute drive or a crap 30 minute ride.


 
Posted : 22/09/2021 9:13 pm
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Can you use a combination spanner 'upside down' as a bodge/making a Mercedes specific tool - you could squash the spanner a little so the cranked angled of the head sits on the fastener correctly with the other end of the spanner angled downwards rather than upwards and fouling as used the 'correct way up'

You can also cut the other unused end off the spanner for a bit more clearance.
I have a 'dedicated Volvo spanner' like this from one job I can't remember now.


 
Posted : 22/09/2021 9:23 pm
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Oh, I bought the special tool from Amazon, not expensive.


 
Posted : 22/09/2021 9:26 pm
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You have inspired me to dig out the socket set and replace the drop links on the MX5 which were an advisory on yesterdays MOT. Have cleaned and drowned the bolts in penetrating fluid ready to swap them tomorrow. KwikFit wanted £70 each to supply and fit, and they are only £17 each to buy. Not done any car spannering for years.


 
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