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Do you mean corrupt as in proven to have broken the law or just does something you don't like. The latter is what I suspect most of the above is about.
Most are in one way. They always back the party before the constituency. The labour ones tend to be the worst at that as the principles tend to be inherently dishonest. Is let's be fair to all by treating some people differently to others Fiat?. Equally our Tory mp was dishonest when he became a minister for a bit. The time spent doing that was time not spent listening to his constituents. He didn't ask us first.
Overall though methinks the OP is ****stiring a little 😆
Gisella Stuart - I don't particularly think her corrupt, but voting for war in Iraq/against an investigation into the Iraq war/being a leading Brexit campaigner rather puts her off me. In all fairness, she's always replied when I've emailed.
The labour ones tend to be the worst at that as the principles tend to be inherently dishonest.
Please, go on?
Genuine question.
Is let's be fair to all by treating some people differently to others Fiat?
Yes, it's Fiat.
We treat people differently depending on their circumstances.
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Mine (Paul Flynn) has been in the seat since before I was born... 1987.
He seems alright, consistently voted against the iraq war when the the majority of labour backed it and has also voted against trident more recently.
He will certainly have my vote again.
Mines Liz Truss... Need I say any more?
he got paid twenty pounds every three minutes.
Not bad work if you can get it 🙄 , £20 would take me 3 hours at minimum wage (or thereabouts) to earn, which funnily enough is about the limit of my working day give or take an hr before my legs go into spasm, stop moving and supporting my body weight so it's then home time.
[url= https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25351/richard_arkless/dumfries_and_galloway ]Richard Arkless SNP [/url] is my MP, he's good - I like his voting record and he's helped out a few people i know and then followed up with personal visits to see how they were getting on.
Hope he gets back in, [url= http://www.dng24.co.uk/farmer-selected-as-tory-candidate/ ]our tory candidate for the coming election is Alister Jack[/url] - surprise...... surprise he's a farmer - i know of him and his views - needless to say he's a dick.
Probably not very - Dr Tania Matthews has only been in the job a couple of years and has done a lot of work for UNRWA.Fairly strong chance Old Vince will get back in this time around though.
(Howdy neighbour!)
Maybe not corrupt, but certainly spineless. Campaigned against Brexit and the constituency had one of the largest remain votes in England, yet still voted for triggering Article 50 in the Commons. Party before people, always.
Not exactly a safe Tory seat, despite the demographics,so hopefully it comes back to haunt her this time around. Vince was alarmingly quick to get the campaign going!
Not at all, mine is a decent bloke it seems. Also he seems pretty astute. They aren't all complete wronguns.
Pretty depressing reading, this thread
Whilst I realise this thread is 'self selecting' so many of them just appear to be 'on the make'
As you may have guessed, I'm pretty disillusioned with the lot of them.
Mine is David Lidington (Leader of the House). Seems a pretty standard tory; Cambridge educated, given a CBE by Cameron when he left.
Standard expenses scandal - claimed £1300 for dry cleaning, also for shower gel and toothpaste. Apparently quoted as saying 'many people would see this as over generous'. Personally I'd see it more like p*ss taking theft. Claimed £116K in expenses one year (no idea if he's aware this is 4.5x the average UK salary).
No doubt not the worst but he doesn't represent me
Only good thing I can say about him is he kept UKIP out.
No idea who I'll vote for in a few weeks. I can't vote for a tory, especially not him ^^^. Obviously not UKIP. My natural (slightly left of centre ground) currently doesn't exist; I can't vote for Corbyn. Which leaves the Lib Dems and Green parties ❓
Mine is Karen Lumley, the biggest oxygen thief ever to walk the earth, has done nothing for her constituency other than get her mugshot in the paper at every opportunity, thankfully she is not standing this time due to ill health, something she will probably blame on the local hospital she has gradually dismantled during her tenure.
Neighbouring three constituencies have mp's who have been (Plymouth moor view) or still are implicated in the election expenses stuff, as is our own PCC Alison Hernandez 😯
MP for my own constituency is not corrupt in any financial sense at all. Voting record often suggestive of putting Jesus over constituents (far more 'outspoken' Christian than Farron and is on record a few times speaking about having his gammy arm healed in church a few years ago). He doesn't need to play fast and loose with expenses or have the battlebus visit -in fact compared to shuttling back and forth to London, he is having a nice rest till June, as if he did bother with much campaigning he could do it naked and lay a turd on each doorstep and still get in as long as he had a blue tie on.
Iain Stewart, doesnt seem too bad for a Tory!
Was pro brexit- Appears to be a complete intelligence vacuum- recently produced a leaflet to say as part of a brexit committee after a whole 9 moths hed (paid a contractor to) made a website about exporting stuff
He'll probably win as MK has an ageing and increasingly senile population
Patrick Grady. He's a good egg, and looks a bit like an egg too, so all good.
Come on who's got Vaz? That's the winner right there!
No idea where Fiat came from.
I meant that leftist policies usually mean sharing things out which isn't naturally fair.
Fair means we treat all the same, not give some more than others. Needs do not go with fairness.
I am aware that we need a touch of common sense here, bodies in the streets are not a good idea. I also note that those who shout loudest about sharing are those without as much and they are not that keen to start the ball rolling by sharing their own goods etc.
I see the church in the same way. Give us money they say whilst living in Ivory towers. Not just moaning at socialists.
I also see that its mainly the socialists that are so unpleasant when having a go at the opposition. lots of slagging of "fat cats" with rude words yet you rarely see the abuse flow the other way. Extreme versions of everything aside of course.
Don't get me wrong, I am not some raving money grabber, I am for example a believer in nationalising many things but do not like the nasty assumption that everything left is good and right is bad. This forum puzzles me at times as its so modern and self indulgent in many ways yet so socialist in others. they are so opposite.
Aggh I have broken my own rule of going off topic. Sorry.
Socialists rarely practice what they preach in my experience.
Craigxxl - I had to google who Tracy Brabin is, which suggests you are probably doing her acting and writing career a little dis-service although I only vaguely recognise her. BUT which career paths are acceptable to become MPs then?
I meant that leftist policies usually mean sharing things out which isn't naturally fair.
I think it is.
Fair means we treat all the same, not give some more than others. Needs do not go with fairness.
Hmm.
If people need more, we ensure they get it.
We help those less fortunate than ourselves, because that is the right thing to do, the human, decent thing to do.
So, if someone is disabled, they may need help to access the services we've all contributed to, to keep as well as possible, to receive the education they want, to enable them to contribute as much to our society as they can.
It seem perfectly reasonable that some people need more of certain things than others, in order that they can function in society.
I also note that those who shout loudest about sharing are those without as much and they are not that keen to start the ball rolling by sharing their own goods etc.
Well, I'm on minimum wage.
I've worked all my life and never claimed a penny of benefit.
I've earned a higher wage in the past yet always voted for higher taxation.
I'd be happy to contribute a bit more via tax, even though I'm struggling a bit at the mo.
I know a lot of people of all political tastes who volunteer round here.
The socialists seem to pick up as much litter as the Tories.
I honestly don't recognise this stereotype.
do not like the nasty assumption that everything left is good and right is bad.
Honestly, neither do I.
It's ignorant and counterproductive.
My MP has the safest Tory seat by majority or the second safest seat by percentage. Either way he will be elected regardless of whatever he does. The fact that he grew up the area, is very active, gets on well, etc just seals it. I may not like his voting record, but nothing I can do. In fact I suspect he will do better this year because UKIP vote will go blue.
Which leaves the Lib Dems and Green parties
Serious question - which is the better party tactically?
Here on the IoW the tories have been in since 2001, but it's traditionally been tit-for-tat with the Libs. Unfortunately they were utterly trounced at the last election and lost 25% of their votes from the previous election, but we now have a very good Green candidate. This site suggests Libs or Greens too - despite traditionally being a Lib voter, at this moment I'm erring Green.
those who shout loudest about sharing are those without as much and they are not that keen to start the ball rolling by sharing their own goods etc.
Nonsense imo.
Whenever someone with money says we should share more they get labeled a champagne socialist, and vilified in the right wing press
e.g.
http://www.****/news/article-3045303/We-luvvie-rude-Tories-Richard-Wilson-Martin-Freeman-Champagne-Socialists-support-Labour.html
http://www.****/news/article-2823470/Russell-Brand-hobnobs-celebrities-freebie-theatre-joining-protestors.html
http://www.****/news/article-2844806/Champagne-socialist-s-property-empire-Emily-Thornberry-lives-lives-wildest-dreams-working-class-voters-purports-represent.html
Seems like most (if not all) of the complaints on this thread are with regard to arsehole MP's in England.......... Just saying like (runs back across the border) 😉
*waves to flashinthepan*
We're in the same constituency and have the same problem.
Hilary Benn.
I like him; generally gets it right IMO based on his voting record - yes, I know how he voted on Iraq; he stands for what was good about labour.
Claimed £116K in expenses one year (no idea if he's aware this is 4.5x the average UK salary).
The amount and multiple of average salary is irrelevant. It may be robbery or completely legitimate. It's a poor argument to just tell about the amount with no details.
The amount and multiple of average salary is irrelevant. It may be robbery or completely legitimate. It's a poor argument to just tell about the amount with no details.
How is it irrelevant?
Mine claimed £22k last year, just for accommodation, office and staff costs. No "miscellaneous" claims for duck houses or whatever?.
So even if "legitimate" it would still be a piss take for someone else to claim 5x as much for doing the same job... Presumably their accommodation is much less modest etc
Mine's SNP, and like all SNP MPs has been thoroughly scrutinised by a very hostile media.
So not corrupt.
My MP is John Woodcock. He seems to be about the only politician who is not corrupt in our area. All the rest, from Parish to District to County to National Park are either corrupt or are knowingly covering up corruption.
To avoid the local election fiasco how do we find out who are the prospective mp's ?
Mine is Liz McInnes, who seems honest.
200m to the east, however, is the land of Danzcuk.
Our MP is Nigel Evans who supported Brexit. The day after the disaster we spotted him in Booths in Clitheroe where three constituents had cornered him by the fruit and veg and were absolutely berating him. His face was red, he was stammering and looking as if he wished he wasn't there.
How is it irrelevant?
Because they could be justified. I don't know. The fact that another MP needed much less is only relavent if they do the exact same job including travel. Note I am not saying that the expenses are right or wrong but that a number without details is useless. Expensesess miss use is a ligitimate concern but it is important to raise arguments in robust manor. Screaming that's a lot of money without details is not a good argument.
[quote=globalti said]Our MP is Nigel Evans who supported Brexit. The day after the disaster we spotted him in Booths in Clitheroe where three constituents had cornered him by the fruit and veg and were absolutely berating him. His face was red, he was stammering and looking as if he wished he wasn't there.
Clitheroe is in the Ribble Valley constituency isn't it ?
Which voted "leave", he should be congratulated for representing the majority of his voting constituents 🙂
Which voted "leave", he should be congratulated for representing the majority of his voting constituents
Aye. Unlike our dear PM who's constituents voted to Remain.
I'm not sure how corrupt he is, but he's an utter *!
And we were landed with the utter * because the previous Labour MP wasn't content with over-claiming expenses, and went for[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12127327 ] full blown fraud[/url] instead
Julian Brazier.
Brexiteer, homophobe, toady