Oops....
He hadn't read the script.
Fitting or not?
Thought usain might have been faking the dodgy form. But no, the fairy tale ending didn't happen
"the race that no one will replay"
The fitting epitaph from Steve Cramm
Bolt has been out of form - it's not a massive surprise he didn't win this. Script? What shite.
A twice caught drugs cheat wins the World Championship? If the IAAF don't want this happening, then stop guys like this competing.
How many would be left.....?
all of those who haven't been caught yet
A twice caught drugs cheat wins the World Championship? If the IAAF don't want this happening, then stop guys like this competing.
Agreed. Caught once, serve your ban, come back with the additional scrutiny (Contador, for example). Caught twice? FOTTFSOF and then FO some more.
+1 should not have been allowed to race again after the second fail!
I don't know - how many of the eight finalists are twice caught drugs cheats?
(Which of course is a different question from how many of the eight finalists [i]are[/i] drugs cheats.)
Agree that Gatlin should not have been there
BUT, frankly i find it difficult to imagine any pro sport is clean. So i simply view it for what it is.....
The modern day version of the Colliseum feeding the masses
That's what it would be whether it was clean or not.
That's what it would be whether it was clean or not.
Quite.
Furthermore, Gatlin not only came back from his second ban, but has also got quicker as he's got older. Hmmm......
Bolt comes third running a seasons best time,like the guys on T.V.said fair play to him for turning up when it was clear he was in average form/on the downslope,he could have retired ,put himself up to be shot at,pity about the ending.
The world (and the weasel Darren Campbell) expects Bolt to be gifted first place. It's the world champs. The fastest wins. Boo hoo. Don't bleat about previous bans - he raced within the rules. No world class competitor in any sport doesn't sail within a thousand'th of a millimetre of the rules.
Boo hoo.
No need to cry about it sugar tits.
Not the result the majority wanted.
Bolt's legacy is totally unaffected by this; he is, unquestionably, the greatest track & field athlete - ever. He was yesterday and will be for some time to come.
One strike and you're out is the only solution.
Track & field is tainted in the same way cycling was - and still is.
Message to the IAAF - grow a pair; develop effective legislation and implement it fully and consistently without fear; fat chance of that. Coe talks eloquently but does nothing.
But has also got quicker as he's got older
If he was British, such a thing gets overlooked conveniently.....
If he was British, such a thing gets overlooked conveniently.....
Examples of British athletes who have served two bans and have then come back and got quicker as they got older please.
Take your time.
Bolt has seemed unbeatable for so long, pushing the boundaries of time for 100m and 200m.
But as Chris Really sang, "Don't you ever think no one's better than you."
That's not what you said capt though was it??
Of course Gatlin is a cheat and should not be winning gold medals, but we have a remarkably myopic view on this issue.
I'm not quite sure what CFH said, but go on then, example of a British athlete with a similar doping history to Gatlin...
Well, it is rather the point. Caught twice, banned twice, came back and is still getting faster as he gets older. That latter piece isn't normal. When taken with the earlier piece, it's even worse.
Examples of British athletes coming back from a ban, or bans, and getting faster as they get older, please.
It's a different point to the one you originally made so need to answer...
We turn a blind eye to Brits who achieve the same thing - never mind. Not hard to think of a number of plucky losers who's became world beaters is it. But in their case, just hard work and plucky British spirit perhaps. Lets hope so...
We turn a blind eye to Brits who achieve the same thing
Example of a British athlete coming back from a ban, or bans, to win a World Championship please.
Take your time.
Sorry cap'n, you are correct our heros and heroines are 100% clean. They got quicker as they got older by pure hard work. Please ignore any of my earlier comments that may have been misinterpreted as saying something different.
Go on then - an example of who you're referring to
Did I say that all British athletes/sports people are clean? No.
Did I ask for someone British with a comparable, or even less than comparable doping history that had a similar track record? Yes.
Brits who achieve the same thing -
British sports person with a doping suspension(s) followed by world title.
Apparently we turn a blind eye to these situations, so that means they must have happened. So, take your time, and show your workings. Who?
The closest might be Millar, with a Commonwealth gold after a ban. Not sure anyone's turned a blind eye to his doping suspension.
Christine Ohuruogu? Banned for missing drug tests in 2006 then came back to win a world championship in 2007?
Linked Christie won Olympic gold in 1992, after testing positive for a stimulant in 1988.
As you know CFH I was referring specifically to the issue of those who got quicker as they got older. My point about Gatlin was made separately.
But I am happy to go to bed in the knowledge of the plucky Brits who did this - got quicker as they got older - did this by honest hard work alone. Phew. Makes you proud doesnt it.
Ohuruogu. Suspension, not a ban.
the Independent Committee stated "There is no suggestion, nor any grounds for suspicion, that the offence may have been deliberate in order to prevent testing," and that a fair ban would have been 3 months. Ohuruogu passed tests 9 days before and 3 days after her final violation
Bolt's legacy is totally unaffected by this; he is, unquestionably, the greatest track & field athlete - ever. He was yesterday and will be for some time to come.
Eh? Better than Zátopek? Mo? Lewis?
A suspension for not complying with drug rules. But British so obviously not a doper, just a bit forgetful.
[quote=teamhurtmore ]As you know CFH I was referring specifically to the issue of those who got quicker as they got older. My point about Gatlin was made separately.
Well if we're going to get picky about specifics, then the quote from CFH you first responded to was:
But has also got quicker as he's got older
Note the "also" - so which British athletes have got quicker as they've got older [b]also[/b]?
Or Michael Johnson?
Crikey ... 😆
(general feeling btw not aiming at anyone 
)
But I am happy to go to bed in the knowledge
Oooh look, a squirrel!
You can give examples tomorrow.
Of what, something I have never claimed, why do that?
Red or grey ?
Thought you were going to bed?
of a British athlete who has [b]also[/b] got quicker as they've got older if you please, that was the claim.
a flying one
It's a long staircase - time for you to highlight where I made the claim that you are rather bizarrely asking me to give an example of - second flight coming up, plenty of time...off you go...
As an aside to people making claims they can't back up, Netflix have just (on Friday I think) released [i]Icarus[/i]. Guy starts out making documentary about how easily an amateur cyclist can dope, and just sort of stumbles into the middle of the massive Russian doping scandal. Brilliant documentary.
[quote=teamhurtmore ]It's a long staircase - time for you to highlight where I made the claim that you are rather bizarrely asking me to give an example of - second flight coming up, plenty of time...off you go...
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/so-gatlin-spoils-the-party#post-8637888
Zzzzz - we're clean, others aren't, nasty foreigners - zzzzzz, sweat* dreams. God save our.......
* oops, appropriate typo though
Bon nuit
Pathetic.
