[Closed] So, can Fred/Elfin be allowed back now please?

I'm trying not to be confrontational about it, but perhaps his friends should ask themselves if STW might have been bad for him.

It's almost like some want Fred to come back, purely because he annoys the people that annoy themselves.

Winding up by proxy if you will.

Why own a dog and bark yourself perhaps?

oh look, another fredthread !

FWIW, I like fred and his opinions are often interesting but his post rate/count is what gets tiresome. The bannings seem to come when those reach a peak - atrition is not a [s]good[/s] forum friendly way to argue and tends to end in tedious repetition and ultimately descends into insults

(he ain't the only one, though he becomes far the most obvious example by "ban-time")

Weird - if people get so wound up by a forum user, why don't they just use the blocking software, instead of reading everything they post like some kind of Mary Whitehouse "I will be outraged" type weirdo?
I found someone's attitude annoying on a couple of threads, now all I get is "Blahblah said something stupid".
I found it doesn't make much difference to forum use so never bothered removing the filter.
BTW, elfin only made the half hearted paedo reference [i]after[/i] he was baned.

[i]BTW, elfin only made the half hearted paedo reference after he was baned.[/i]

Which presumably makes it perfectly acceptable? 🙄

Promised myself i wasn'y going to comment on this but...

"half-hearted paedo reference"

This sort of thing can't be 'half hearted' IMHO. It has the potential to ruin lives and careers so is a very dangerous accusation to make.

Jamie said something stupid.

Narrow it down a bit for us Jamie

[i]This sort of thing can't be 'half hearted' IMHO. It has the potential to ruin lives and careers so is a very dangerous accusation to make. [/i]

Exactly.

..and all those 'Aww poor lickle Elfin, let him back cos he's my mate' types should really have a look at what they are defending; no one else would get away with that kind of thing.

Narrow it down a bit for us Jamie

Be easier to nail fog to the wall, TGA.

🙂

actually, it'd be a great way of "banning" people if the forum read as normal to them but returned "(banned person) said something stupid" for everyone else.

Being apparently ignored by everyone would probably do some members some good (never did me any harm & I've been here for years ( 🙁 ))

I've just blocked you too - it'll come into effect just as soon as I open a Twitter account

Very few find the concept of a grown adult deliberately pretending to be illiterate by typing in childish mockney even vaguely amusing.

That's fair enough, it was just that so many folk chose to get really wound up by it, seemingly like you.

He's a stranger on the internet, GET OVER YOURSELF.

can we lock all the moaning hard done by fannies in a room together.. naked.. for six weeks.. with no food.. armed with knives..

call it Big Bother..

poor me I didn't like his funny accent.. poor me I miss his witty repertoire.. poor me I got fed up of him being right all the time.. poor me he insinuated my mate had hives.. poor me he had a heart of gold.. poor me he gave my granny worms.. poor me he'd never hurt a fly.. poor me he said posh people don't wash their teeth and balls.. poor me he washed my teeth and balls..

poor fred

posh people don't wash their teeth and balls..

Being apparently ignored by everyone would probably do some members some good (never did me any harm & I've been here for years ( ))

Sorry, but anyone who has the time to post more than a dozen times a week or so should be questioning their life and then be getting one. Forums are much better places without most of these over-regulars irrespective of the views or peculiarities.

I missed the thread that got him this ban, but I was just thinking the other day what a long time his current pseudonym had lasted. I don't find him any more annoying than any of the othe 'big hitters', so I'd be happy to see him back. It is time for a new name though.

His undoing was that he was he rather eloquent and effective

Oh, purleeeeeze. You can do so much better than that. Or did you mean to come across as a sycophantic wetpants with that post? If that was your intention, please accept my apology.

Sorry, but anyone who has the time to post more than a dozen times a week or so should be questioning their life and then be getting one

Oh, I dunno
Some of us get paid quite well to keep posting all day every day, we can't all have a job that keeps us to the grindstone all day.
As much as we'd like to be micro managed into filling every second with profit making input, some of us just have to face the fact that we'll never have a 'proper' job and just put up with getting well paid to post here.

It's a tough job but someone has to do it.

[i]Which presumably makes it perfectly acceptable? [/i]

Presumably? why presumably? I only mentioned it as someone asked if that was why he was banned.
Course its not f-in acceptable you eye rolling twonk

joyless conservatives don't like it up 'em..

Is he not already on here under another username?

Sorry, but anyone who has the time to post more than a dozen times a week or so should be questioning their life and then be getting one. Forums are much better places without most of these over-regulars irrespective of the views or peculiarities.

You do realise you have posted 7 times in the last 5 days, right?

[i]Course its not f-in acceptable you eye rolling twonk [/i]

Apologies DezB, I read as though you were excusing it.. Eye rolling twonk deserved..

was looking for the trademark dancing ghost thingy of freds, but this encapsulates the whole issue better IMO:

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Cant say I miss him.

His arguments and the pattern they always took as soon as he was being proved wrong were tiresome. His art arguments were laughable and naive.

He even aliented himself from the (excellent) HTN event today to the point he wasnt welcome.

Seemed a bit of a bell end to me but hey ho, the worlds full of em.

Some posters on here seem to know everything about everything - or so they think.

He even aliented himself from the (excellent) HTN event today to the point he wasnt welcome.

Thought he was best mates with the organisers?

...or is that Big Bike Bash?

Thought he was best mates with the organisers?

after he flamed them on numerous occasions over his entry.... I dont think so.

Everyone is mates with the BBB organisers 🙂

His art arguments were laughable and naive.

If ever there was a compelling argument for keeping him banned this must surely be it.

How [b][i]dare[/i][/b] anyone come waltzing onto STW with laughable and naive "art arguments".

How dare anyone come waltzing onto STW with laughable and naive "art arguments"

Post of the week. 😆

I always thought this summed up the issue nicely...

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Anyway... isn't it about time a big hitter came along and de-railed this thread?

I think you'll find that this is the chat forum where anything goes the bike forum to get all geeky about which forks are best or whether these tyres will make you ride better, instead of actually riding is over here.
Perhaps you'd like the mods to give you some sub-forums and a nice blue background too?

Ooh, well that's me told

I think the point I was trying to make is that while this may be an "anything goes" forum, that does not mean that it has to become a tit for tat exchange or a continuous argument that lasts till the end of time - but then these arguments seem to go on forever because some posters on here obviously have nothing better to do with their lives than use this forum as a soapbox for their own views or hide behind a persona that they've made for themselves which they think gives them enough anonymity to say and do what they want while hovering over the report button every time someone has the audacity to challenge a "big hitter"

It's just so tiresome and boring to see these long winded arguments at the top of the chat forum every single day which only end when the name calling starts

Sticking my member into a hornets nest here, but who or what is/are a big hitter? Is it someone who posts all the time, or a combination of that and arguing the same issues?

Course its not f-in acceptable you eye rolling twonk

which only end when the name calling starts

Observation fail

His art arguments were laughable and naive

Serious business this art stuff

I found Elf's critique of post modern art to be particular naive if I was being honest
And his appraisal of any Chinese sculpture was truly laughable

And his appraisal of any Chinese sculpture was truly laughable

Well they do all look the same...

Sticking my member into a hornets nest here

I honestly don't know Jamie. Supposedly I'm one and I never argue about stuff, well not on the internet... what's the bloody point? Al coined the phrase to wind people up... maybe it's someone who winds someone up?

After a couple of recent semis, this thread has given me a proper, quivering, veiny stonk on

Sticking my member into a hornets nest here, but who or what is/are a big hitter? Is it someone who posts all the time, or a combination of that and arguing the same issues?

Isn't it someone who posts so frequently and verbosely, whilst revelling in arguing about anything, that they cause any normal person trying to contribute to STW to feel like they're attempting to converse in a room filled with megaphone wielding, ear defender wearing egotists?

Well they do all look the same...

Quite 🙂

Yossarian - did you get your screen name from the Meercat Manor TV series..?

I noticed an Uncle Yossarian on there this morning.. 🙂

Isn't it from Catch22?