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@thepilot life's too short.

Sounds like we have the same builders though, think I put mine off by asking questions. Was later told on here that's bad form and that I'm failing some sort of attitude test.


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 9:52 am
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You're right, @squirrelking
I think there's just a massive shortage of builders and the like so they can pick and choose. Understandable that they don't want to be asked questions but when they supply you with a quote/estimate that is so clearly deliberately vague, well if you don't ask questions, then you're told you've been a fool when things go wrong.
'Tis very frustrating. Hope you find someone good soon 🙂


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 10:01 am
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Posted : 22/10/2021 10:28 am
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It is frustrating - we are trying to get someone to come and do our driveway with a few £k in pocket. So far 4 tradesfolk have either not turned up as agreed to quote without telling us, or one who just kept postponing a week, another week, another week...

I think we will wait the winter and see who can do something in the spring - it is way beyond DIY as it needs either tarmac or truck of concrete...


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 10:35 am
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Tbf I've had no issue getting them round (I want a full set of windows and doors) ..... But then they give me phone number quotes and the adverts I hear on the radio makes it sound like all local window fitters are desperate for staff which suggests I don't want them fitting my windows right now anyway.


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 10:39 am
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YGH, I like Martin! Even if royally pissed off with the lack of customer service it must have made you smile?


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 10:42 am
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It wasn't me personally, just something I saw online


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 11:03 am
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There should be a STW DIY disasters team that just goes round the country fixing stuff for people then going out for a ride on their local trails. There could be a TV series in it.
My dad has just waited four months for roof tiles but at least we are able to do the work ourselves. A lot of DIY is common sense and confidence. We spent a couple of hours over thinking it and then reminded ourselves that it didnt have to look perfect, the tiles just needed to be watertight and secure.


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 11:09 am
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I was hoping Matt Allwright and his motorbike might help me out but alas no.
I'm actually booked in with someone but because of everything that has happened/is happening in the world, he's delayed and is now being wooly about dates. I've even suggested he look again at his estimate as prices have gone up for raw materials. I'm just not sure he's ever going to do it.
One of the reasons I went with him was because he said he would do the whole job again rather than remedial work. Sounds crazy. Until you see the job Cowboy Ken has done and the amount of remedial work needed.
I could have got it done sooner but I was confident with this guy but it seems a lot of other people were too. Hey ho. Lottery ticket purchase it is.

Re Martin, much as it made me chuckle, I think it's a crying shame that people are so desperate for work to be done that tradesmen like him can get away with behaving like that.


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 11:39 am
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@stevenmenmuir you can be coopted on as long as you bring bramble whisky as good as a few (lots) of years ago.


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 12:54 pm
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Posted : 03/01/2022 10:28 pm
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A cheery thought, but I wonder what the increase of Asbestosis will be with folks suddenly knocking holes in their artex ceilings to fit smoke detection.


 
Posted : 03/01/2022 10:49 pm
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I was about to order a set, but then like everything started doing some research……

Does anyone have any suggestions of what make to get? The cheapest is Anka I think and FireAngel (I’ve actually heard of Fire Angel) seem to be the most expensive.


 
Posted : 03/01/2022 11:15 pm
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A cheery thought, but I wonder what the increase of Asbestosis will be with folks suddenly knocking holes in their artex ceilings to fit smoke detection.

probably none,  https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/asbestosis/

there is no need to  be " suddenly knocking holes in their artex ceilings" other fixing methods are also available


 
Posted : 03/01/2022 11:20 pm
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Which think the FireAngel FP1640W2-R is OK.

That is one of only two 10yr battery alarms tested that were suitable for new Scotttish regs. More choice if you are going for mains wired. The other one was found to be slow to activate.....

Ei Electronics Ei2110e review

https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/smoke-alarms/article/guides

Edit Amazon reviews very mixed on the Fire Angel. I think I will be waiting a bit to see what emerges as the best for value/ease of use.


 
Posted : 03/01/2022 11:43 pm
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Does anyone know if it is possible to mix hard-wired in and battery alarms?
My hallway has hardwired smoke alarms (not interlinked), so am wandering if I can replace these with new wired in alarms which will interlink to a new battery smoke alarm in living room and battery heat detector in my kitchen?
I don't want to attempt to run new wires to hard wire them all in, but it seems a shame not to use the existing wires in my hallway.


 
Posted : 03/01/2022 11:59 pm
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I'm in the exact same situation as you, feels like a step backwards going to a battery powered alarm.


 
Posted : 04/01/2022 12:07 am
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it is possible Aico have a module that you woudl fit to one of the mains alarms that will enable communication with battery only interlinked detectors.

Check the manufacturer of the units you have installed, im guessing some of the other manufacturers will offer similar.


 
Posted : 04/01/2022 12:07 am
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Does anyone know if it is possible to mix hard-wired in and battery alarms?

It's inelegant but like most people I suspect we've just added the new linked ones and retained the wired-in. Redundancy is good and there's not really much downside- one more lump on the roof is all


 
Posted : 04/01/2022 1:04 am
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Less than £200 for 10 years cover

Don’t read Fireangel’s ten year guarantee as ‘the batteries will last ten years’. They’ll last 2-3 years and then you need to claim replacements.


 
Posted : 04/01/2022 7:58 am
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Does anyone know if it is possible to mix hard-wired in and battery alarms?

The FireAngel mains powered alarms seem to able to be either cable or wirelessly interlinked. I have just bought a set of their battery alarms and basically you buy the alarms you need plus a small wireless interlink module for each detector. So I guess you can add these to both compatible mains and battery as part same system.


 
Posted : 04/01/2022 8:05 am
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Has anyone had any success finding alarms that are radio linked and don't look absolutely awful? All the ones I can find look like they belong in a warehouse, look fine but don't link or are about £80 each. I'm all for the regulations but it's my home and I dont want to glue something hideous to my ceilings.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 11:22 am
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I think finding any alarms at the moment is a success, let alone stylish ones. FireAngel have just emailed to say my back order (placed early December) has been punted to some time in the future. Any others I've looked at are out of stock.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 11:26 am
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I just put these up, they’re actually fine and better than they looked on the website.
Beer for scale.

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Posted : 18/01/2022 11:43 am
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The Cavius detectors are quite compact, I have fitted a few and simple to set up.

Priced in between the Aico and fire angel

smoke alarms


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 11:49 am
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I ordered a bundle from Fireguard, semi detached bungalow so don't need a huge number of them. The reviews seemed promising. Went for battery rather than mains to save digging into 1929 walls. They all need to be replaced in 10 years anyway, wired or not.


 
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