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"Smart" Dishwashers - what's the point?

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We have a smart Neff induction hob, not even bothered connecting it to the wifi network. I really can’t see why it would be of benefit ?


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 10:50 pm
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to receive a notification if you've gone out & accidentally left a pan boiling away on the hob (and then be able to remotely turn it off) would be the very obvious one.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 10:54 pm
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I know someone who did this and had a major house fire.

Let’s talk anecdote vs evidence. I know somebody who was knocked off their bike and killed, yet…


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 11:03 pm
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Needing the washing done just as you get home whilst not knowing when you’re going to be home is surely an edge case?

Yes, I said as much in my original post.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 1:29 am
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https://news.sky.com/story/eight-house-fires-a-week-caused-by-faulty-white-goods-11250607

Faulty fridges and tumble dryers are among the common household items causing more than 60 fires in UK homes every week.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 7:20 am
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Ultimately, I think the main benefit of smart devices has nothing to do with the consumer. It’s all about data gathering for the manufacturers: how people use them, when they do and any other info they can extract from them.  Just like with Alexa, you’re the product.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 8:19 am
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Faulty fridges and tumble dryers are among the common household items causing more than 60 fires in UK homes every week

On the flip side, that means 24,999,940 of UK homes didn’t have fires.  Not making light of house fires etc. but if you tried to do things that presented zero risk, you’d never do anything.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 8:38 am
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Faulty fridges and tumble dryers are among the common household items causing more than 60 fires in UK homes every week

Yet no one advocates only using your fridge when home during the day


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 9:03 am
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Smart washer here, but NFC. The app allows me to see number of washes, run a sanitising wash, other stuff and add more custom washing programmes.

Thing is, 99% of our washing is done on either low temperature quick wash (15-45 mins) or the hour wash. There are half a million other cycles that take over two hours and weigh the wash load to adjust the time.

Not much point really.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 9:16 am
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PS the purchase was based on it fits under our kitchen top without sticking out (I hate them sticking out) and had a 10kg load. And we were starting the first lockdown as our washer broke, so it had to be in stock and thrown in the car.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 9:18 am
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And we were starting the first lockdown as our washer broke, so it had to be in stock and thrown in the car.

Nonsense, that was the prefect opportunity to not do any washing for months


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 9:24 am
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Only if you know when you’re going to be home.

Ah not a problem! As per the related thread I have young kids and thus no social life, so am always home!


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 9:31 am
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I have a bosch dishwasher that did tell me for a while some moderately useful stuff like when it needed salt or cleaning.

But now it seems to have gone dark so we are forced to use the control panel. Like living in the 1970s.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 9:57 am
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I would like a smart washing line that reminded me to fetch the washing in when there was a shower.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 10:15 am
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Yeah I discovered the other day that apparently our Tumble dryer is Wifi enabled, We've only had it five years or so.

Nobody in the house actually cared when I announced this stunning bit of news, myself included. I think it means I can sit in bed use my phone to burn my own home down, So I'll continue to give it a miss.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 10:40 am
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Ultimately, I think the main benefit of smart devices has nothing to do with the consumer. It’s all about data gathering
this is probably true, of course smart devices that neither "phone home" nor collect data do exist but they're not what the major manufacturers (with the sole exception of Apple) are pushing. BUT there's also a massive DIY/enthusiast community making privacy-focused smart hardware/software for the sole purpose of being genuinely useful and in many cases far better than what "big tech" is offering!


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 11:11 am
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Ultimately, I think the main benefit of smart devices has nothing to do with the consumer. It’s all about data gathering

Now that is likely.
I bought a blood pressure monitor - and the attached app wanted access to all my photos, contacts, calls, app data etc. Funnily enough it was a Chinese company that made many an app for 'health' and 'excercise' - but underlying it was all the data they could gather. A no from me.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 11:20 am
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I have a bosch dishwasher that did tell me for a while some moderately useful stuff like when it needed salt or cleaning.

That's a point actually. We're all talking about what's the point of remote start, but an alert on your phone telling you it's finished could be a useful feature rather than having it sitting there beeping its tits off.

I hate appliances that are needy attention-seeking pricks. The air fryer lets me know when it's done by issuing sixty beeps. Sixty! That's 59 too many. The microwave oven beeps in a normal fashion but if you don't attend to its needs it'll do it again, and again, and again, and...


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 2:30 pm
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OP - there is no point, something are totally and pointlessly over engineered.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 2:41 pm
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I would like a smart washing line that reminded me to fetch the washing in when there was a shower.

I'd like a solar-powered washing line.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 2:53 pm
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We have a smart Neff induction hob, not even bothered connecting it to the wifi network. I really can’t see why it would be of benefit ?

I have a smart Neff extractor hood. If I had your hob you would be able to set the hood to come on automatically when the hob is used.

I thought the smart extractor hood would be pretty useless but it's actually reasonably helpful to be able to able to ask it turn on / change speed with your voice rather than having to free your hands up to operate the remote control. Also nice to be able to control it's lights along with others. Notifications that grease filters need cleaning via your phone is also useful. Slightly annoying this is only possible through running a Homebridge server as Neff's Home Connect does not integrate with Apple Homekit natively.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 2:59 pm
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I must admit, I like smart stuff but the requirement for a new bridge or app or something every five minutes is really irritating.

See also, parking apps.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 3:15 pm
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I like smart stuff but the requirement for a new bridge or app
that’s entirely down to how (some) manufactures are choosing to implement it though (and entirely avoidable if you go down the Home Assistant route!)

Slightly annoying this is only possible through running a Homebridge server as Neff’s Home Connect does not integrate with Apple Homekit natively.
I suspect this is down to Apple’s privacy standards which they don’t feel benefit them 😂

Both of the above are what the new home-automation standard Matter is supposed to address, how successful/widely adopted it’ll be remains to be seen though! (Where’s the XKCD comic? 😂)


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 4:08 pm
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I think at some point, you and I need to have a conversation about Home Assistant.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 4:18 pm
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@Cougar feel free to fire me a PM if you like 😃


 
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