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Why doesn't that bell end Bell stick a GoPro on his helmet for filming the run instead of holding the camera with one hand trying to keep control.
He's just showing off....
Unless you're Mr GoPro, why do you care?
Because a helmet mounted camera isn't the best way to film it.
A handheld one is 😉
Hope that helps.
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😉
He shoots in front, facing him for commentary, and from his ski. All of which really shows you how hard he's skiing, and gives a great impression of the piste.
He's also a waaaaay better skier than any of the Go-Pro touting "edit" filmers once sees "shredding the gnat". Most of whom are male chickens who don't know how to ski/board, let alone know the rules of the hill.
Maybe he read [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/go-pro-hero-3-beware#post-4589261 ][b]THIS[/b][/url] and was put off!!
Who's the bell end?
Think about it, if the camera was helmet mounted, 90% of the time all you would see is white snow. About the only time he is stood up straight is when he crosses the finish line.
Because he puts the GoPro on the end of his ski.
Doesn't have to be a go pro as I suspect the bbc will have far better kit, I would of thought there would be a better way of filming the piste, unless your actually standing on the slope you will not appreciate how bloody steep it is.
Yet another arm chair stw expert.
I'm amazed the bbc are not knocking down your door and pleading with you to join there production team. 🙄
Perhaps a viewers prospective is whats lacking, a camera mounted on a boom arm coming out from the back of his helmet would be a good start.
Did you not watch the feature where he explained why he used what he used!!! FFS 🙄
LOL obviously not! As you were, hope all your blood pressures return to normal.
Doesn't have to be a go pro as I suspect the bbc will have far better kit,
A well known chain of bike shops, mainly in London, sells many, many, many of them to the Beeb every year. Notably for use on shows like Top Gear, Ski Sunday and Countryfile. Oddly, many, many, many of them seem to go missing at the end of each shoot.....
ITV use 'em too. I found one at the 3 Peaks cx and later traced the owner with the help of Twitter (much to my son's disgust!) and it turned out to belong to ITV who were filming one of the top juniors.
Capt Flash, they do go missing indeed! 🙂
Adventure Show use GoPro cameras too.
Good endorsement for GoPro though!
There's one on Countryfile now, as it happens!
I would of thought there would be a better way of filming the piste
There isn't.
Otherwise they would be doing it.
Hope that helps (again)
If you watch the Austrian dude who does the same job for Eurosport more often than not he has a helmet cam, hand held (which he points forwards and back on occasion) and also a cam on his skis. It's a well rehearsed routine.
I just watched that on Iplayer and reckon that was a great clip. About ten years ago I sneaked onto the course the week after the race late in the afternoon with a couple of racers/ guides. The Mausefalle was fenced off, but even without that the course was very, very scary. The start is much steeper than on tv and we made turns down the steilhang and still only just "made" the 90 degree corner. I wiped out on the Hausberg compression and ended up in the netting quite shaken up. From there, and from a standing start the final schuss is one of the scariest things I have ever done and that's the easy bit. So hats off to Bell going pretty flat out, with camera and one pole. That's guts!
I have walked down the Hahenkamm in Summer and it's still bloody scary without snow!!!!
..........Why doesn't that bell end Bell
STW definition of 'bell-end' ....
Talented, successful and handsome male who your wife/partner fantasises about and wouldn't dare mention but furtive squirming movements on settee are a giveaway, thus invoking feelings of intense jealousy. Can also be cross-matched with, knob, dick, prick and other slang for the male appendage in an attempt to assauge feelings of inadequacy.
[url= https://twitter.com/whoppercock ]Ed Leigh[/url] has recognised and embraced this with his email and twitter accounts 😉
Woody is right. He's definitely handsome...
Rachel
If I had to and i was given the choice I'd choose Ed.
Is that the guy with the lovely eyes and smile ?? Another fan here. Shame about the accent but I guess that's a detail.
TeamHM - I did the run last April. Wasn't as bad as the conditions you faced, in that it was soft going due to time of year and so little ability to get up to breakneck speeds.
The Hausberg was the most difficult bit for me, it's unpisted the rest of the year so it was just a big mogul field.
I'm at work so haven't watched this video, but it may help explain the kit they use.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-sports/21219637
hammerite, I am sure it is a great run in normal conditions, but in race conditions it is truly scary. I was shocked to look out of the starting gate and how steep the first section is to the top of the Mausefalle. We stopped at the fence but looked down the jump itself and that made me feel a little sick! How those guys and especially Bell make the Steilhang amazes me, the corner is so tight and doing that at speed on sheer ice is full-on ballsy stuff (plus amazing edges and technique). I was shattered by the Hausberg and not expecting the jump. Plus had neither the technique nor the edges to deal with the compression. Ouch!!
I think Bell and Ed are doing a better job at trying to keep SS different and relevant. The snowboarding piece this week was really interesting IMO and some of their stunts are epic. I would like to see a bit more racing though.
But going back to the OP, I really take my hat of the Bell and enjoy his filmed runs almost as much as the race itself. He makes them (slightly) relevant to us recreational skiers IMO.
teamhurtmore
I'm always amazed when you see the DH runs first hand. When you see the speed they are going it brings home the level of skill/strength/fitness/balls these guys have.
The Hahnenkamm is on my list of 'must do's' as I'm going there on Saturday 😀
I think Graham and Ed do a great job, I really enjoyed that other show they did (High altitide? or something?)
I'm also a big fan of Tom Burt, fantastic to see a decent piece on him on prime-time BBC. Love watching his lines, every single turn is perfectly judged to put him in the right spot to the next turn as easy and efficient as possible. Like watching a flawless 147 break, but more interesting.
Ed Leigh's twitter name comes from his 3 x British Air Guitar Champion alter-ego, "Satan Whoppercock" with codpiece mounted Roman Candle firework finale. You can't say the chap's not versatile!
TeaHM - I'm guessing you skied it much more like a racer than I did. I did it most days as the last run down, but only bothered with the mogully Hausberg once. My journey down included probably 1,000 turns and a couple of rest stops, and I'm guessing took 10 mins+!
The mousefalle wasn't a jump for me, although by the end of the week there was only about a 1ft strip of snow on the entry to it (the rest was grass), so there was no choice of line.
Hats of to Graham Bell. You can hear how hard he is working as he descends. The adverse camber on the Steilhang was amazing. To do it one handed fair play.
Liked the Tom Burt stuff as well, they were a bit "rad" but the stuff he was doing was pretty bonkers
Not really relevant fact, Ed Leigh used to work at Noah's Ark in Stoud, snowboard and bike shop...
your right dull 😐
Have fun woody!!! I have only skied HKamm the one time. It was officially closed for good reason as it was still race set up. In addition to the "real" speed the thing that struck me most about a live DH is the noise of the racers. You hear them coming and then it's like a bullet going past. Unreal talent and bravery.
Many, many years ago, I had one of the best days skiing ever with Konrad Bartelski in Val. Only four of us with a simple mission. Le Fornet to La Breviere via the Grande Motte and back without stopping. He was incredible to ski with, schussing mogul fields flat out. A great guy but a nutter on skiis - at least to the rest of us. We did cheat (ie stop) at one stage (ok several) when we skied the La Dialle DH course because he wanted to talk about the run and show us the jumps. He marked out the distance of the tunnel jump near the bottom of the La Daille run. Unreal distance covered in the air!!
THM
Lucky you to get to ski with someone as good as that. Many years ago, I skied with a member of the British Olympic DH Team (female) after she had retired from competitive skiing and the 'schussing mogul fields' still lives in my memory. 😯
On a side note, Ed leigh was the winner of the Official UK Air Guitar Championships in 2000, 2001 and 2002. he was known as Satan Whoppercock 😀
So nice to see some ski adverts now on the side of this thread - but there is still no escaping the bloody shed!!! Dunster House, I have NO INTEREST in your knockdown sale but would willing knock down you sheds and adverts!!!
Dunster House are a decent company though, a local success story (local if you live near me!). I thought I must have written something about sheds somewhere to get one of their adverts!
My late wife skied with GB on a press trip. She said he was lovely; a real dish!
Skiing with proper downhill racers is a real eye opener for sure !
I used to race a bit but was never into DH, but I was "reasonably good"
I had the good fortune to ski a fair few times with Uli Spieß, as he was a good friend of my boss in Mayrhofen.
(EX World Cup DH winner a Val D'isere and the first person to jump the "camel bumps" at Val Gardena)
Seeing him ski the Ahornabfahrt was just incredible ! He was long retired from racing, but was still incredible to see the sheer power and control on the ex Mayrhofen World Cup Downhill run.
Straight lining almost everything, top to bottom. Something like 6KM and 1300m vertical drop.
He's one of the only people I ever saw beat the cable car (run leaves from top station and arrives at the bottom station)
The others were also DH racers, but about half his age !
I skied a few times with Peter Habeler too, who was also an incredible skier to watch, even though his background was mountaineering.
Happy days !
Wow, I remember Spiess clearing the camel bumps!! His mum used to run the ski school didnt she? My first ski lessons were on the Ahorn and they took us down that black (I think) down to the village in our first few days - scary!!
Double wow with Habeler - some tales to tell I am sure. I bet he was still really fit!! Seemed a bit more level that Messner but never sure what Nanga Parbat did to him?
Happy days indeed!!
Skiing with proper downhill racers is a real eye opener for sure !
Skiing with a paralympic level sit-skier is even more of an eye opener! Scary fast!
I skied a few times with Peter Habeler
[Jaw hits floor]
Wow! He's totally awesome (almost as awesome a mountaineer as Messner). You are one lucky dude.
Uli ran the main ski school and Ricki (his mum, and former Olympian !) ran the Kinder side of the school
Such a nice guy, awesome family too.
When I first went to Mayrhofen I was 18 and Peter Habeler was a big hero of mine. So to find myself a few years later in a circle of friends which would regularly see me having a few drinks with him or skiing with him was surreal to say the least.
And yes, he's as fit as a butchers dog still, and he must be almost 70 now I would think.
Proper legendary mountain man.