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ohhh get off your high horse sir,
Oh the ironing!
Just think, he wouldn't have attracted all the negative comments if he'd kept the money and kept his mouth shut.
then Oscillate Wildly wouldn't have an excuse not to donate and some anonymous charity would be better off to the tune of £5/month or £60/yr or £3000 if he were to continue donating for the next 50 years.
Before I start I'll say that I unequvically think donating £3m to charity is a good thing to do.
But I'd be interested what the French view of this arrangement is. The frogs have a very different attitude to charity than we do. The general view being they pay their taxes so the state should provide what they need, why should they pay again and again to support each and every cause as advanced by a charity.
So do the French see the Beckham thing as a good thing like most of us, or do they think he has just deprived the state of circa £2m in income tax? (of which some of it would have been used by the state to support children in Paris)
[i](I suspect that Beckham does get some benefits through not getting paid in France and therefore not being subject to their tax laws but so what, its only what every single one of us, and every coporation would also do)[/i]
MSP - Memberohhh get off your high horse sir,
Oh the ironing!
not really - as i think its great the money goes to the needy not more in his already very deep pockets, im totally for it, just not really sure on the motives other than for his own self importance, ala most celebrities!
by the way, good on you 'normal' everyday folks that do donate - hats off!
instead hes using wages that are ridiculous in the first place and doesnt deserve to fund the donation (that he doesnt deserve due to being old and past it)...
no tinge of bitterness there then is there?
FWIW, footballers are contractors and what they're worth is amateur of negotiation between themselves and their employers. It's got nothing to do with you. So whatever he is or isn't past, he most certainly is not past convincing the paymasters of a football club that he's worth several million to kick a ball around a field, even if it's only so they can use his name to sell some shirts.
people get so blinkered by 'celebrity'ism' when the realism of it is they only do it for their own image..
There is some crap spouted on STW but that and most of your other 'knowing' comments OW, are floating very near the top.
Exactly how many celbrities do you know, and do you know any of them well enough to make that sort of sweeping statement? Strikes me that you are far more influenced by the media than you would care to admit.
Maybe one day you will change your opinion when you require the services of one of these charities which your warped perspective prevents you from helping.
And your answer is... 'the money', obviously
So he's a 'mercenary' just like many others then.
Lets just doe the sums shall we? 3 million is 1.71% of a £175 million fortune
But he would have got a lot less than £3m, after tax. So the proportionate to his 'wealth', he would have given perhaps less than 1%. I imagine many people on here probably give more than that to charity each year, and if you consider the 'value' of the unpaid voluntary work many people do, that figure is increased even more. So he's not actually doing any 'more' than millions of others, just that it's a higher sum. And there are scummy banks and corporations who donate vast sums each year to all manner of worthy causes; they're still scum though.
seems like a decent guy and thats a great gesture,what exactly is the problem with some
people??
It's not 'greater' a gesture than someone earning £20k a year donating £500 a year to charity though, is it really?
I don't have a 'problem' with it at all, good on him for doing so. i just don't see why so many people pour such adulation over him is all.
What is newsworthy is not directly correlated with what you consider to be important.
I'd much rather the 'News' be devoted to informing us of things which are important to us all, that way perhaps we would all be more enlightened about matters, and be more willing to want to do something about them. Had Beckham held a press conference to promote the charity he'd donated to (which is it, I have no idea), and highlighted the work they do, that would have been more worthy of reporting.
I'm sad that 'famous bloke gives a tiny fraction of his vast wealth to charity' takes precedence over stuff like the situation in Mali, for example.
So for all those having a snipe, which one has done most for charity, Beckham or Armstrong?
jesus - im not against the charities they do a fabulous job, often unpaid!
im merely on about celebrities' and how it only ever comes across that they do it to self promote, again no need to tell the world he's donating this money, he did it for one reason and one reason only, to promote himself/his image
again ill gladly accept im a cynic and love to be proved differently by the 'celebs' themselves, but clearly as others in the thread im not the only one that thinks like this
And how did you get on when you did those particular activities Mr Bwaarp?I'll read an article about Beckhams charitable work the day he starts clearing landmines in Kosovo or dodging bullets in a civil war ridden hell hole.
Some really bitter, bitter fan-dans outing themselves on this thread 😳
he should keep some of that money and buy his wife some pies.
Anyone can clear land mines if they have the bollocks for it.
Crack on then ?
Take a camera and post some pictures up so we can all see how much better than Beckham you are.
I'll read an article about Beckhams charitable work the day he starts clearing landmines in Kosovo or dodging bullets in a civil war ridden hell hole.
How does Mother Theresa fit into this measure of charitable work, the self-promoting publicity whore that she was?
If you donated your time or money, why broadcast it to the world. Charity in the heart is unsung and unadvertised.
If you donated your time or money, why broadcast it to the world. Charity in the heart is unsung and unadvertised.
Because he was asked about it.
Why was he asked what he would be doing with his salary?
Was he actually asked? Because in this clip, he appears to offer the information without anyone asking him what he would be doing with his salary:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21278235
And he seems quite eager to point out that 'it's something that hasn't been done before'.
thx1138 - MemberAnd your answer is... 'the money', obviously
So he's a 'mercenary' just like many others then.
That's what you're saying. Not me. The premiership is awash with money grubbing mercenaries, as the transfer window has just aptly demonstrated. Beckham is/was one of the greatest footballers of his generation, and I'd suggest his career choices reflect someone who works incredibly hard, and is driven by a will to win, for both his club and his country. And about considerations for his family. One things for sure. He certainly doesn't come across as someone motivated primarily by greed! As this gesture has demonstrated.
But with your attitude I doubt you'll ever acknowledge that. Some peoples comments on this subject say a lot more about themselves, than they do about Beckham 🙄
[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/beckham-to-help-poor-children-have-better-hair-2013020158280 ]Anyone; no one?[/url]
Lol, this forum.
That's what you're saying. Not me... ...One things for sure. He certainly doesn't come across as someone motivated primarily by greed!
He went to Real Madrid because he was offered a much more lucrative salary. He then signed for LA Galaxy for £125m over 5 years. And you really don't think he was motivated by greed?
Why didn't he go and play for Leyton Orient or someone then, if he's so 'passionate' about football?
But with your attitude I doubt you'll ever acknowledge that.
I'm just seeing things with an open mind, and not through rose-tinted spectacles.
He went to Real Madrid because he was offered a much more lucrative salary.
Yes... I'm sure that's the only reason he went there. Nothing to do with playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, alongside some of the best players in the world, competing for Champions Leagues. I'd say with every move he's made, he's had many many equally, if not more lucrative offers on the table at the same time. I can't remember, off the top of my head, if Leyton Orient were competing in the Champions League that season. Did they go out at the group stage?
No, actually you're right. You've got it all weighed up, haven't you? As with most things 🙄
He went to Real Madrid because he was offered a much more lucrative salary.
Actually he moved to Real Madrid because bacon face skelped him in the face with a football boot, and £125m over 5 years is nothing in football terms. Works out at £50k a week which is a massive amount of money, but half what the likes of John Terry etc are making
Yes... I'm sure that's the only reason he went there. Nothing to do with playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, alongside some of the best players in the world, competing for Champions Leagues.
His Real career was relatively unsuccessful. So why did he then leave one of the biggest clubs in the World, to go and play for LA Galaxy on a £25m a year contract?
What first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels?
No, you're right. You've got it all weighed up, haven't you?
I think I have, pretty much, yes.
[i]Why didn't he go and play for Leyton Orient or someone then, if he's so 'passionate' about football?[/i]
Hmm, Real Madrid or Leyton Orient... Maybe he was passionate about playing at the top level, alongside and against the best players in the world and, because of his talent, he was given an offer that would allow him to do just that.
Admittedly, the Galaxy move was an odd one.
His Real career was relatively unsuccessful.
Compared to your own, I'm sure it was
£125m over 5 years is nothing in football terms. Works out at £50k a week
Maths isn't your strong point, is it?
Would you accept a $25m a year contract to ride your bike? I would, so why shouldn't he accept one to do something he loves?
I'm just seeing things with an open mind
At the time of writing this, there were 58 voices on this thread.
I've got you down as 56th least open.
Only binbins and I are propping you up matey. And we're fragile at the best of times, so watch out for when you hit the bottom.
Ooh, where do I come in the charts?
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There is no pleasing some people.
I've got you down as 56th least open.
How kind of you.
Beckham's a mercenary like most of the others. Of course he's going to go for the biggest salary he can get, and the maximum exposure and promotion for Brand Beckham. Doesn't mean he's not a decent human being, but he could do far more good stuff with his £175m fortune really, if he'd genuine about wanting to help others, couldn't he? I think that's what some of us are getting at, that we're looking a bit beyond the immediate 'oh what a lovely bloke he is' reaction by people. And seeing that actually, it does well appear to be little more than a clever PR move.
That some French kiddies will benefit is great, but then if people like Beckham weren't paid such obscene sums in the first place, then there might be a bit more cash to spread around everyone else.
Ooh, where do I come in the charts?
IHN, you're so open, you're inside out. 🙂
Not 'alf! 🙂
Whats it like, being you?
Whats it like, being you?
Infinitely preferable to being you. 😉
'oh what a lovely bloke he is'
Hang on, "oh what a lovely bloke" and veneration are two different things. Where are you exactly on this?
That some French kiddies will benefit is great
That's lovely that.
Oscillate Wildly - Member
by the way, good on you 'normal' everyday folks that do donate - hats off!
Wow, that's [i]so[/i] condescending and patronising of you! What a big, generous person you are... 🙄
I'm sure you'll really appreciate the help you haven't given should you have the need for an air ambulance call-out, or similar.
Arse.
Dunno if been mentioned but he was also pretty nice to Stephen Murray
[url= http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/1210143/Beckham-put-on-hold-as-he-tries-to-wish-BMX-rider-well.html ]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/1210143/Beckham-put-on-hold-as-he-tries-to-wish-BMX-rider-well.html[/url]
CountZero - Member
Oscillate Wildly - Member
by the way, good on you 'normal' everyday folks that do donate - hats off!Wow, that's so condescending and patronising of you! What a big, generous person you are...
I'm sure you'll really appreciate the help you haven't given should you have the need for an air ambulance call-out, or similar.
Arse.
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it wasnt patronising at all, well not intended, perhaps take off those rose tinted specs, young sir!
and i have donated to the air ambuluance before as i do to the red cross etc, not that ive needed the air ambulance mind...so touche
i just didnt make a song and dance about it
Berm Bandit you should declare a vested interest given you're French.
Blimey 😐
i could give £5 a week sure, so could everyone else, but i dont nor do alot of other people
Followed byby the way, good on you 'normal' everyday folks that do donate - hats off!
and i have donated to the air ambulance before as i do to the red cross etc, not that ive needed the air ambulance mind...so touche
So you're boasting about giving to charity now. Is that to try and appear less of a ****?
Make your mind up!
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im not boasting at all, i gave a small small donation as i passed them once, nothing major...then the same as i always do for the poppy appeal too, again nothing major and hardly any noticeable amount of cash, does that make it less helpful?!?! or makes me less of a person than that Beckham?....
and im less of a dick for having a different opionion to your rose tinted glasses self? ohhh of course its STW afterall!
its not a regular thing by any means, and i dont regularly make charitble donations, and no i dont get the need to get out a tannoy and advertise it to the world HOW AWESOME AND SPECIAL I AM that i am doing it
😆 nice try soft lad