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Shouldn't we be discussing the police?

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I got pulled over a few times when I was driving a rather tired old BMW 3 litre coupe. No obvious reason, never had this with any other motor.

Can we still "profile" based on car? Unless you mean an old E9
E9
that would be near the top of my list for "probably doing something illegal" regardless of who was behind the wheel.

Shame because nice cars.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 3:17 pm
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Rape / sexual assault investigations and trials are very traumatic for the victims

Yup, this seems to be a huge problem in achieving successful prosecutions. In high profile cases which get media coverage the police generally comment on the bravery of the victim in helping to achieve a successful outcome.

I guess this is where specially trained officers are exceptionally important.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 3:19 pm
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Rape / sexual assault investigations and trials are very traumatic for the victims and conviction rates are pathetically low even when its civilians.  Its not unreasonable to assume the chances of conviction are even lower when its a policeman.  Many victims cannot face the trauma over long periods of time to pursue a case.  Often they are told the case is hopeless by prosecutors as well and prosecutions dropped

I posted this in the 'Anything good on Netflix to watch' thread (bear with me!!) but it has taken on relevance beyond there as a result of this discussion.

National Theatre (NT at home) have made some of their performances available on line for subscribers, it's a little more expensive than your average Netflix monthly but I think there are some vouchers or offers available. Or you can PPV (again not cheap for the headline performances, but in this case very worthwhile)

Anyway - my wife and I watched this a week or two ago and it is incredible both as a performance but also for the impact of the message. If you want bubblegum tv it's not for you but really hits hard on the challenge faced by any victim of a rape or sexual assault case, and harder still on how common it is. Don't want to spoil in case anyone wants to watch it but there are reviews online that go into more detail.

https://www.ntathome.com/videos/prima-facie-trailer

https://cherwell.org/2022/05/01/why-am-i-the-one-on-trial-review-prima-facie/


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 3:27 pm
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64336530

Oh dear, more bad news for the MET


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 4:36 pm
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Ultimate she went because of Sadiq Khan

Sure, but was he wrong?


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 4:38 pm
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Oh dear, more bad news for the MET

Just wait til we hear it was an open secret and the other met officers used to call him "Captain Fiddle Fingers"


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 4:45 pm
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Just wait til we hear it was an open secret and the other met officers used to call him “Captain Fiddle Fingers”

Shouldn't laugh, did.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 5:04 pm
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I wouldn't trust a cop any more than I’d trust any other random bloke I happen to meet.
If I’m in town and I need help, I know where the ambulances park so I’d probably go there.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 5:07 pm
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I should have added. To me, a male cop is just another man but who’s had some training in violence, and carries weapons. I might be more trusting of a female I suppose, but I’d still not call them or go to them in town. I’ve got male friends for that who I know I can rely on

Edit; none of the women in work my age that I just asked trust cops. One said they’d go to a bouncer if she needed help, just texts her bf if she out with mates. None of us would ever call the police


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 5:15 pm
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Sure, but was he wrong?

Indeed. And another question which needs to be asked is whether the Home Secretary should have the right to appoint the head of the Met?

Bearing in mind that the Home Secretary wasn't elected by Londoners, her party failed to win both the GLA and mayoral elections, and she doesn't even have a vote herself in London. It's clearly not her business.

Plus as previously mentioned the Met Chief needs to have the confidence of the Mayor of London. Especially as the Tories keep blaming the Mayor of London for rising crime.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 5:20 pm
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that would be near the top of my list for “probably doing something illegal” regardless of who was behind the wheel.

Shame because nice cars.

It looked just like that one, right down to the wheel design! It was a 3.0 CSi with four speed manual transmission, around 20 years old when I got it.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 7:24 pm
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They’re a proper classic now, 6 figures for a good one!

I was picturing something like this as the petty criminals transport of choice
https://images.app.goo.gl/qBRnsnB6Q58MGWsJ 7" alt="3 series" />


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 8:05 pm
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They’re a proper classic now, 6 figures for a good one!

Prettiest car ever, bought on impulse. It was not a good one and I couldn't afford to do it up, but it was fun, in a gas-guzzling kind of way. Bosch D-Jetronic electronic analogue fuel injection from a large box of transistors etc. under the rear seat. Eeeeek!


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 8:20 pm
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Well done to everyone involved for turning a thread about a serial rapist police officer and, by extension, toxic masculinity into a discussion about cars. FFS! 🙄


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 8:32 pm
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Well said Binners.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 8:34 pm
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(I only read the first response )

Respect the position/role.
But trust yourself.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 9:09 pm
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That picture on the Marina Hyde link above was interesting for the semi-authorised “Thin Blue Line” badge on the stab vest. That cliquey attitude needs addressing as not they’re not much different to a member of the community they are charged with policing by consent.
It is a personal decision to ‘other’ themselves and it is not helpful for those of a criminal offending disposition.

Thin blue line Baaaaaaad, rainbow lanyards goooooooood


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 10:25 pm
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one is exclusive one is inclusive.  Not hard to see the difference.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 10:33 pm
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Well done to everyone involved for turning a thread about a serial rapist police officer and, by extension, toxic masculinity into a discussion about cars.

I assume your congratulations are ironic @binners. You are talking like one of those comedians on a late night show that takes cheap shots at people in the public eye by drawing attention to apparent contradictions which for the most part are easily resolved on closer analysis (but after the initial gag response). If you would care to develop your one-liner into a point, I would be happy to respond.


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 11:03 pm
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Alright Toni


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 11:30 pm
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Alright Tony

So binners after castigating people for not taking this thread seriously you have now decided to join in the banter and post amusing photos.

I'm sure you understand the logic behind that but it baffles me.


 
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