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It looks like the US and UK are gearing up for war with Iran. Do you think this is a good idea?
Watch this video of former 4 star US general, Wesley Clark, talk about America's foreign policy to carve up the Middle East and bring it under its control. They were planning all this back in 1991!
Its not a case of if but when.
No it's not a good idea, but seeing as we the West have carved up much of the Middle East already, i guess the job needs finishing.
Worse would be if Israel kicks off with Dinner Jacket, nukes being thrown around anyone?
😆 "Dinner Jacket"
the thought instils an ice cold chill of fear into my heart..
If/when it happens, I cannot think of a single nation of the world that will not cheer with relief when Iran nukes us..
Especially most of the EU 😆
Iran won't nuke us. Instead they will make an utter mess of the middle eastern oilfields and screw the western economies that way.
Iran won't nuke us
Or pack some nice radioactive material into a rucksack and send some jihad scrote onto a train/ bus/ shopping centre/ plane etc.......
Why? Is Iran threatening our borders?
No. And I hope Iran gets armed up to the teeth/does a deal with China to get some tasty weaponry to throw back at the West, so that we don't invade them.
What is it that they've done so wrong that warrants an invasion? After all, Saudi Arabia has a worse Human Rights record, yet we happily do business with them...
We should all invade the US. That would have a far greater positive global impact, to shut that nation's military operations down.
Come on China, sort it out...
No. Bad, extremely bad, incomprehensibly bad idea. Just no.
No doubt it will all be thoroughly debated and public opinion consulted.
Then they will do it anyway.
Oppose and make bloody sure they don't do it again.
Perhaps the only way that western imperialism will be halted is for them to go to war and get a very bloody nose. Losing the Vietnam war shook US confidence for fifteen years.
Yeah but short of blowing up military bases here, how do we the people actually stop our government from sending our troops in?
And how much say do we really have in the running of our own country, compared to Washington?
i personally think, that if the whole of the middle east and all the arab league were nuked from the face of the planet, we would all be far safer and better off.
imho that is......... 😀
Ton; the planet would be better off if the UK and US were nuked from the face of the planet, is the real truth. Cos it's us that start all the bloody wars these days...
No! It's none of our business! We need to pull out of Afghanistan too.
We can't afford it.
Use the money to pay for pensioners' fuel in the winter and decent pay for nurses, policemen, firemen, dustmen - people who we need, who look after us.
Agree with Elf, we need to wind our necks in (us and US).
For such a small country we do get ourself in some shit. No to war from me
no to war.
Perhaps a more constructive alternative than "nuking" Iran(and Saudi etc) would be to reduce our dependence on oil, which would eliminate/reduce above countries hold on our economies.
I do agree on America/UK need to wind our necks in.
Definitely not. We should go for a country much smaller.
Iraq had a population** less than half the size of Iran and the Iraqi war went alright.
Maybe someone ought to ask our Middle East Peace Envoy - he's good when it comes to that sort of thing.
** Even before we started killing hundreds of thousands of them.
No. We should not invade Iran.
If we really need to go to war then surely the more sensible and economically viable option at present would be to invade France.
A lot less travelling, and their Leader made ours' look like the muppet he is yesterday so we have our valid reason for "Regime Change". We could also point to the fact that we believe they have weapons of mass destruction. And apparently, there's still plenty of "religious types" over there and they can be pretty dangerous and extremist, best to do it before they attack us.
Its about time we let the middle east get on with their own affairs rather than blowing all the cash we don't have on going to war with them. Admittedly Iran developing nukes is a terrible idea, just drop a daisycutter on the factory and have done.
If "we" [i]do[/i] start making war noises I'll be out protesting for only the second time in my entire life - fooookin' stupid!!
*1st time being 30/11/11.........runs away*
thegman67 - MemberFor such a small country we do get ourself in some shit. No to war from me
LOL, how true is that, always watch out for the little one, with something to prove 😉
Another No, here too
Perhaps a more constructive alternative than "nuking" Iran(and Saudi etc) would be to reduce our dependence on oil,
Yep if we put all the money we've wasted on recent conflicts into renewable energy development we'd be world leaders exporting the technology and self sufficient in energy terms as well. Then we wouldn't need to invade anyone else and can keep out of it when the energy wars really kick off. Unfortunately that would require a government to look more than six months ahead and actually plan for the future rather than just reacting to current events (same goes for big business).
War in Iran, might as well just bomb ourselves for the good it'll do.
No. No, No and erm let me think. No. We cannot afford a war.
Nuke the hell out of each others to reduce human population and let the earth regenerates.
Yes, why not after all we are human and luckily we cull ourselves which is good otherwise the earth will be infested with so many self righteous maggots.
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For once we should mind our own business.
Let the rest of them get on with it if they want to.
Labour put us into too many wars, the torys should not continue it.
Reading yunkis post, Its a shame I cannot put the killfile on the iPad.
Reading yunkis post, Its a shame I cannot put the killfile on the iPad.
really..? why?
have I offended you..?
I was just pointing out that perhaps the rest of the world are as sick of our warmongering as we are..
yunki - MemberI was just pointing out that perhaps the rest of the world are as sick of our warmongering as we are..
How do you conclude that we are warmongering?
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Because we cull ourselves and kill so many self righteous maggots ?
How do you conclude that we are warmongering?
really..!?
ok... say we [i]really are[/i] going to war with iran.. give one sound reason for it..
or for the afghan invasion.. or the iraq invasion
just one..
no.. you can't
therefore I conclude that we are warmongering.. everyone that has posted on this thread is sick of it
get a grip
ernie_lynch - MemberBecause we cull ourselves and kill so many self righteous maggots ?
Wrong. That's not warmongering that's preserving peace and love for mother earth by harvesting the ripen human maggots. You really need to think of mother earth you know ... we maggots are insignificant as we multiply like a disease.
aaaah.. now I understand 😀
yunki - Memberok... say we really are going to war with iran.. give one sound reason for it.. or for the afghan invasion.. or the iraq invasion
just one..
1. For humanity ... selfishly.
2. Or if we let it be the diseased maggot infestation would grow larger and perhaps a bigger nuke would be required.
I choose no. 2 because it would be better to nuke all once and for all.
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How do you conclude that we are warmongering?
Eh? Do you read the news.
Iraq, Afghanistan. Libya, Millions of deaths as a result of our warmongering.
Its a disgrace and a source of shame. I am ashamed to be british.
Should innocent lives be lost for the sake of nothing, should we spend 100 of millions of £ when the country is a recession, could the money be better spent elsewhere?
Hmmmm! Not sure about this one.
it would be better to nuke all once and for all.
well that's not very christmassy is it...?
Have a mince pie.. you'll feel much better.. 🙂
TandemJeremy - MemberEh? Do you read the news.
Iraq, Afghanistan. Libya, Millions of deaths as a result of our warmongering.
Its a disgrace and a source of shame. I am ashamed to be british.
Hmmm ... TJ ... LOL!
No, I am afraid that's not of our doing but more like some silly people from those countries poking the hornet's nest. 😆
Don't you mean maggots nest ?
No, I am afraid that's not of our doing
Yo mean those are not british servicemen killing funny foreign people by the million?
ernie_lynch - MemberDon't you mean maggots nest ?
No, hornet is far beautiful creature than maggots. Maggots might be large in number but poking the hornet's nest is like tempting them to have free delicious meal.
TandemJeremy - MemberYo mean those are not british servicemen killing funny foreign people by the million?
Please refer to the above ... maggots poking hornet's nest. 🙄
Quite a few folk on here seem to be suggesting we should halt our warmongering due to being a bit strapped for cash. Does that really matter? If we were flush with cash and had a massive surplus then would you approve of us splashing out on a good military conflict?
Excellent tags!
No, hornet is far beautiful creature than maggots.
Eh ? I thought we were all maggots :
...after all we are human and luckily we cull ourselves which is good otherwise the earth will be infested with so many self righteous maggots.
Now you're saying that some of us are beautiful hornets ?
......it's all getting very confusing 😐
