[Closed] Shooting in Paris; casualties reported. Hope this isn't what it sounds like.

well said edukator

Glad your family are safe

But its such a peaceful religion.

Yes, it is. Islam doesn't make people murderous psychopaths, it's just an excuse.

I've got a horrible feeling this is nowhere near over, and maybe even the start of something worse. Hope I'm wrong.

Sad sad times. So far no bad news personally of Friends and family there. We've been making a lot of phone calls and texts. Have family who love just a street away but where safely indoors

PLEASE lets speculate another day/tihread

It was only a few weeks ago the gunman in the train was foiled. Paris has been full of armed troops since Charlie Ebdo, it's going to be on a war footing now.

A coordinated attack in a European capital city on an unprecedented scale resulting in many deaths?.

Oh shit, 5 explosions near bataclan

But its such a peaceful religion.

We've seen in England how quickly riots spread and the no-go zones in the outskirts of Paris must be bubbling with enthusiasm tonight. This is so grim.

FFS JY get your head out of your arse

I am happy to debate the causes/perpetrators but thought it better if this thread was just to express concern whilst it was ongoing rather than have a personal/ political/religious ding dong in an STW style. Lets keep it classy and not do this basically

I repeat the appeal, with another please.

or of you prefer lets speculate away whilst lives are still at risk and insult each other as we do. What better way is there to show our concern for those at risk than a bicker 😕

Tragic news. 😥

Oh shit, 5 explosions near bataclan

I'm hoping those are flash-bangs.

Leave politics out of this thread please.

Just5minutes, especially you.

The stw holier than thou's are in full swing as you'd predict.
Sometimes if it looks, walks and talks like a murderous bigoted ideology with no place in a modern secular culture thats just what it is. Defending it is as bad as pulling the trigger.

The stw holier than thou's are in full swing as you'd predict.
Sometimes if it looks, walks and talks like a murderous bigoted ideology with no place in a modern secular culture thats just what it is. Defending it is as bad as pulling the trigger.

get a grip sunshine.

Defending it is as bad as pulling the trigger.

Using it to attack an entire religion or race makes you as bad as them.

'Religion' is too narrow a description, but 'race' is just dumb.

'As bad as them' is simply ludicrous.

Using it to attack an entire religion or race makes you as bad as them.

Emotions running high as to be expected. Lets not kick off though eh?

It is a shame that dealing with the problem means that you're a loon National Front Ukiper.

This needs to be addressed sensibly by everyone in society, working towards a common cause and being seen to do so.

Tonight is awful, I hope it gets better in the future

Well at least nobody has blamed the west yet.

French tv reporting incident at Bataclan is "over" 2 terrorists killed.

Ach, I'm not going to argue. Just think about why they've done this. Don't you think they're trying to stir up exactly the kinds of reactions some people on this thread are exhibiting?

Attacking Islam or Muslims for this plays perfectly into their hands.

They're not dealing with the problem though. They're gleefully point scoring based on...?

I suspect those on this thread posting anti-Muslim/Islam comments are baptised. But do you apply the teachings in Leviticus to the letter? I hope not and you'll soon wind up in jail if you do. Some of the verses in the Koran are an incitement to hatred in the same way as the verses in Leviticus but moderate Muslims don't live by them any more than moderate Christians.

The problem lies with those who use religion as a means to build a power base that they then abuse. Call it Islam, Christianity, communism, fascism, national socialism, Scientology or whatever you want. It's just a belief system that's used to push people into doing unto others what they wouldn't find acceptable without the belief system.

I think your 'troll' moniker should be reassigned to someone else.

Bataclan has been stormed. Two jihadists dead but no word on the hostages so fingers crossed.

Two [s]jihadists[/s]attackers dead

Reports that the Calais refugee camp has been set on fire. It just gets more horrific.

Er yeah, whatever votchy.

Zombie apocalypse. Germany [s]should[/s] must be quaking in her boots.

100 more dead, truly terrible.

I was following it on twitter and there was a retweet of a post from someone inside the concert hall who was injured, i stopped reading after that 🙁

Now saying 100 dead at bataclan

Terrible scenes, just dont have the words to express the mixture of anger and despair i feel at the shit that goes on the world sometimes

How many death in total? More than 100?

It's just a waste of time to observe the sleeper cells as they are just going to grow.

Just do it the old fashion ways by making them disappear if they are truly in the process of carrying out atrocity. Deal with that first then let the lawyers argue later on ...

enfht - Member
Zombie apocalypse

What's wrong with you?

Looks like Germany may be next ... or Norway or Sweden.

But Germany being Germany if they start to take action it will be done in a highly precision way.

The machine will wake up again.

BBC confirmed calais pics are old.

Chewkw, WTF are you on about.

thisisnotaspoon - Member

Chewkw, WTF are you on about.

Germany with it's "opened boarder" letting everyone in without checking means some of the infiltrators would have landed already.

If they act on Germany like they have done in France, the retaliation from the German will be far more organise and precise to the point of machine like, unlike France with their laid-back incompetent attitude until things are too late.

The other possible locations/countries that will face the same event will be Norway or Sweden.

Jesus christ people... Oh good a terrorist attack, an opportunity to be an arsehole on the internet. This place can make you sick sometimes.

chewkw -the charlie hebdo gunmen grew up in france, the 7/7 bombers were from bradford, assuming that these guys just arrived from syria at this point is ridiculous, without knowing any facts

kimbers - Member

chewkw youre talking bollox the charlie hebdo gunmen grew up in france, the 7/7 bombers were from bradford, assuming that these guys just arrived from syria at this point is ridiculous

Ya, it's just make easier to hide amongst the community.

I just cannot comprehend how you arrive at a mindset where you can indiscriminately murder innocent people on this scale. It just defies all my conceptions of what it means to be human, with all the complex emotions that entails.

What is becoming increasingly apparent is that this type of thing is here to stay. It's the next Cold War. That is now the scale of it. Only with the gloves off. What's needed is for people to stand up for universal human values. And those universal values are shared by all religions. Now really isn't the time to be unthinkingly blaming one.

For whatever reasons, and God knows western foreign policy hasn't helped, we now have a large scale nihilistic death cult, which is a lot more powerful than our media and government would have us believe, and is more than capable of atrocities like this, and seems utterly determined to repeat it, ratcheting it up all the time.

If this stresses anything, it's the need to face up to this with our shared humanity.

binners - Member
For whatever reasons, and God knows western foreign policy hasn't helped, ...

Nothing to do with your western foreign policy coz they just don't like you and they want to rule over you.

Like I said in other thread a while back ... how can a non-believer solve the problem of believer?