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This could genuinely be the perfect forum thread, I don't believe there is any kind of right answer but just enough info to let the opinions fly.
jimjam - Member
This could genuinely be the perfect forum thread, I don't believe there is any kind of right answer but just enough info to let the opinions fly.
Shoot the man.
How do we know the individual had mental problems?
"climbed into a lion enclosure, stripped naked and taunted them into attacking him"
I agree with Drac
FrankensteinShoot the man
Without knowing more about you can't say that though. He might have just had a hard night on the vodka-redbull and buckfast and took such a savage fear that he wanted to end it. We've all been there.
Plus there are parts of Africa where they have such a surplus of lions they are bringing in snipers to cull them. So it's not as if the bastards are a precious commodity.
"climbed into a lion enclosure, stripped naked and taunted them into attacking him"I agree with Drac
Again. How do we know the individual had mental problems? He may well have, but he might have just thought **** it, I am going to get taken out by lions. We just don't know.
Seems more rational than putting on explosive underwear and getting on public transport.
😆 @ some of the quick editing. I saw that! 😮
Bottom line, there is no justification in shooting the lions regardless of the person's mental health.
You can pry him off the lions mouth but you do not shoot the lions dead.
Looks like the mods just tranquilised a few posts 8)
What an excellent result. 🙄
The sooner we start treating all species with equal respect the better.
Looks like the mods just tranquilised a few posts
🙂 phew!
Why did the zoo not have enough tranquilliser?
Good luck to the person who has to aim and shoot another person, who isn't armed and not trying to kill you. Do you want to be the person to actually decide this is a good idea and then do it yourself and be totally fine about it afterwards? Fancy some PTSD when your subconscious decides it wasn't a good idea after all?
If they guy was depressed and wanted to die, maybe he really liked lions and thought that would be best way to end it.
Think how more depressed he is gonna be when he wakes up and learns that the lions died and not him.
Where next? The crocodile enclosure?
If we're keeping with the same theme I'm guessing grizzly bear. They go for the face. But more likely pills.
If he really wanted to be creative, he could recreate how Mr Hands went out.
How do we know the individual had mental problems? He may well have, but he might have just thought **** it, I am going to get taken out by lions. We just don't know.
Are you ****ing serious? Read that again and tell me that doesn't look like the most ridiculous post yet.
As for some of the rest of you. Classy. That's someone's son, possibly husband or boyfriend, get some ****ing perspective. Nobody in their right mind does something like this. Selfish doesn't even come into it, when you're thinking that way you aren't being rational, oddly enough.
Are you **** serious? Read that again and tell me that doesn't look like the most ridiculous post yet.
Which bit?
squirrelking has hit in on the head. Are some of you the sort of person that likes goading suicide jumpers. We talk about raising the awareness of mental health issues and we have this attitude.
How many have read the report. It seems as if the tranquilizer was intended for the lions. If they man is hit and then the lions set on the man, then sorry as far as I am voncerned the persons life takes prescedence. This was happening infront of a large crowd remember. Who would wish to witness or allow their children to witness someone being mauled by a lion?
This is a sorry affair, but I am sure that the right decision was made in the end by the shooter.
Which bit?
The bit where you say he might not have mental health issues but then thought he wanted to die anyway. That bit.
This forum is so predictable sometimes.
So there's this event, on the other side of the world, (which, to be honest, may not have actually happened) (or might as well have not, for all the difference it'll make to our lives) you only have vague information about. Someone types some crap about it and you get all sanctimonious and try to prove how much better a person you are than them.... so weird. So predictable.
you get all sanctimonious and try to prove how much better a person you are than them
Or, better informed. Give it a go, you might learn something useful that could save someones life one day.
Plus there are parts of Africa where they have such a surplus of lions they are bringing in snipers to cull them. So it's not as if the bastards are a precious commodity.
Surplus by who's definition and cause? I suspect it's too many in a confined area as the have been restricted to that area due to hunting and its too near a human population. ie both problems caused by humans.
Plus there are parts of Africa where they have such a surplus of lions they are bringing in snipers to cull them. So it's not as if the bastards are a precious commodity.
Erm...
Most lions now live in eastern and southern Africa, and their numbers there are rapidly decreasing, with an estimated 30–50% decline per 20 years in the late half of the twentieth century
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion#Population_and_conservation_status
The bit where you say he might not have mental health issues but then thought he wanted to die anyway. That bit.
I stand by it. Until the facts come out, we cannot know for sure what his mental state is.
Has anyone mentioned the 3rd option of not having places where we put wild animals in cages so people can pay to gawp at them? Just a thought...
In an ideal world that would be the case, Daz. But sadly the increase in poaching, even in national parks, means zoos play an important part in conservation now.
I stand by it. Until the facts come out, we cannot know for sure what his mental state is.
Do you let a person get mauled by lions infront of a crowd of adults and children whilst waiting to find out?
bongohoohaaI stand by it. Until the facts come out, we cannot know for sure what his mental state is.
Well when he wakes up with no genitals he'll be mad, that's for sure.
Do you let a person get mauled by lions infront of a crowd of adults and children whilst waiting to find out?
In preference to shooting the lions? I know what the kids would prefer.
Until the facts come out, we cannot know for sure what his mental state is.
Do you really need this spelled out for you?
NOBODY in their right mind decides to end their own life. FFS.
Well when he wakes up with no genitals he'll be mad, that's for sure.
So we're 100% on the no genitals thing?
NOBODY in their right mind decides to end their own life. FFS.
What about assisted suicide? I'm not saying the lions were supplied by Dignitas, but to say people only end their lives if they are not in their right mind is a bit of a generalised statement.
Do you let a person get mauled by lions infront of a crowd of adults and children whilst waiting to find out?
It was good enough for the Romans.
Again. How do we know the individual had mental problems? He may well have, but he might have just thought **** it, I am going to get taken out by lions. We just don't know.
So they should have waited until he had been seen by a psychologist before deciding on what to do.
It was good enough for the Romans.
Yeah, and what did they ever do for us eh?
squirrelkingNOBODY in their right mind decides to end their own life. FFS.
No virgins for you then sucka!
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Yeah, and what did they ever do for us eh?
Well, there was the aqueduct...
What about assisted suicide? I'm not saying the lions were supplied by Dignitas, but to say people only end their lives if they are not in their right mind is a bit of a generalised statement.
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Surely the point of assisted suicide is you are not killing yourself?
Are people that jump off buildings are seeking the assistance of the pavement?
Don't engage, recommend withdrawal on the off chance intelligence is tranmitted via electronic osmosis.
NOBODY in their right mind decides to end their own life. FFS.
Sure they do. There are endless reasons.
Surely the point of assisted suicide is you are not killing yourself?
Well he wasn't killing himself. The lions, after some provocation, were doing it for him.
Are people that jump off buildings are seeking the assistance of the pavement?
No.
Don't engage, recommend withdrawal on the off chance intelligence is tranmitted via electronic osmosis.
It's ok to disagree with someone without being rude. Thank you for your participation all the same.
I am with you daz, lions should not be in a zoo in the first place. Problem solved.
Aside from that, don't shoot the lions to compensate for all the human mistakes leading up to the incident. Just compounding the problems.
and lionising the victim.Just compounding the problems.
NOBODY in their right mind decides to end their own life. FFS.Sure they do. There are endless reasons.
Yup, endless suicide cases have gone unsolved because the person committing the act was deemed of sound body and mind.
Canyou just stop trying to pick pseudo smart arsed holes in my argument that really dont stand up to any scrutiny and instead look at the case I was discussing? A man who strips naked, climbs in with dangerous animals and attempts to end his own life. Pretty open and shut mental health case.
Bongo, if you werent trolling then your debating style really needs to be looked at. Debate the subject at hand, not far fetched ifs buts or maybes. I'll say again that nobody in their right mind commits suicide, especialliy not like that.
Anyway, hopefully he'll get the help he needs to get through whatever the hell caused him to do this in the first place and the consequences.
How do you solve a suicide case ??
Forgot to look at this yesterday! Top comedy response to my post squirrelking. Brilliant 😆
You might think suicide is something to joke about but having recently had a fairly close friend end his life, pretty much out the blue (as far as I was concerned) kinda changes your perspective somewhat.
Someone gets their back up at ****s making light of tragedy shocker.