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richc - Member

"how would you feel if your wife chidren or parents came accross 3 aggressive dogs"

I think any sane person, would answer this as follows: 'I would feel angry, and outraged and want the owners of the dogs held to account'

Most, wouldn't answer (well apart from on internet forums): 'I would go all bruce lee on their asses, and knife them, let them bleed, let them blleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddddddddd'

again I really can't see where i said I would knife them although I would have every right to jsut like the farmer has or is worrying people acceptable to you. You appear to be very brave with other peoples children

If you do decide to knife one of three german shepards, I expect to be read something in the news in the future about a man maulled to death after attacking 3 family pets.

Argh I see if they are family pets it is okay for them to worry or attack people and if they attack me I would be at fault for protecting myself? Uhmm so you would be happy with me not protecting my children. I suppose you would be alright as you would be able to outrun your children......again irony as i hope I am wrong

If you do decide to knife one of three german shepards, I expect to be read something in the news in the future about a man maulled to death after attacking 3 family pets.

well if you dogs killed my loved one, my farmers shotgun would kill you and ur ****ing shit producing dogs!

Well considering out of control dogs is a civil offense with a fine of upto £1000, and you have admitted carrying around an offensive weapon which carries a penalty of upto 4 years in prison and a £4000 fine. I would be more worried about you, as the dog walker is committing a minor civil offence and you are committing a major criminal one.

well if you dogs killed my loved one, my farmers shotgun would kill you and ur **** shit producing dogs!

How would you kill a dog thats already been put down? or are you talking about murdering the owner after the police investigation?

Also bear in mind that the person commenting that the dogs are wild and out of control doesn't know the difference between animals walking and charging, so his judgement doesn't seem to be the best.

did you grow up in a town,

Is that relative are you saying that I do not have aright to talk my experince on a regular basis.

they dont charge at you 50% of the time

I think thats for me to say not you granted I have not kept a note but if you read my examples then you would see I have the advantage of regularly being in a feild with cattle in. As in 2 or 3 times a week

they come over to see what ur doing in there field so times quite fast but move suddenly and they will run the other way,

I agree and have said so constanly although I will stick with running past you

Muppet!

Argh insults well that should win you the arguement

If they charged you you would know about it.

I have clearly said they charge you with no intent maybe we have a differnt definition

so times quite fast

How would you kill a dog thats already been put down? or are you talking about murdering the owner after the poilice investigation?

Ok just for example im at home in one of my own fields with a small child that im related to, you are in the same field with ur dog, it attacks and kills said child, i go home get shot gun out , find you kill you...then call the police

Ok just for example im at home in one of my own fields with a small child that im related to, you are in the same field with ur dog, it attacks and kills said child, i go home get shot gun out , find you kill you...then call the police

Surely the person, whose dog has just committed the horrenous act would have called the police first? and might have even destroyed the dog, as to tell the truth I cannot think of single sane person who would ever think of or could defend their dog after such an awful act, as ultimately as much as people care for a dog, its life is worth nothing compared to that of a person.

Also you are talking about premeditated murder, as you have actually had time to think about what you were going to do, planned it, and then commited the crime. So instead of one terrible horrenous act which has ended one life, you will have ended three (the child, the dog owner and yours as you would spend a long time in prison).

To tell the truth the thought of my dog or any dog killing a child makes me feel sick .....

as the dog walker is committing a minor civil offence and you are committing a major criminal one.

What by allowing her dogs to attack you or your children? Having aggressivedogs of the lead without even a collars on?

well if you dogs killed my loved one, my farmers shotgun would kill you and ur **** shit producing dogs!

How would you kill a dog thats already been put down? or are you talking about murdering the owner after the police investigation?

Surely richc ilovemygears is talking about killing the dogs at the time why would it already be put down. Why do you think a farmer can shoot a dog that is worrying cattle but not one who is attacking his family. A rather sick view.

aving aggressivedogs of the lead without even a collars on?

I am assuming of = off btw.

Have the dogs attacked your children? I am guessing No? then the owner is at worst; if found guilty would have committed the 'civil' offence of dogs dangerously out of control.

You on the other hand *HAVE* and *ARE* commiting the *CRIMINAL* offence of carrying an offensive weapon in a public place.

Surely richc ilovemygears is talking about killing the dogs at the time

No, he was talking about going home, getting a gun, killing the dog, and the owner then calling the Police. Most people don't take their kids out for a walk with firearms in this country, I could be wrong though ......

By the way richc why are they allowed to sell lock knives if they are illegal? And what constitutes a public place? Does the same rules apply to pen knives? What constitutes a lock knife I have it in front of me it opens and then appears to lock? as in I cannot close it withotu pressing down on the back of it? There is nothing ironic in this question

sd-253 - are the dogs really aggressive or just excited?

Are their tongues hanging and out and are they dancing around with their tails in the air?

No, he was talking about going home, getting a gun, killing the dog, and the owner then calling the Police. Most people don't take their kids out for a walk with firearms in this country, I could be wrong though ......

Actually you are wrong I know a game keeper who has gun with him and his children at the same time

No, he was talking about going home, getting a gun, killing the dog,

Just like a farmer does if he hasn't got his gun handy which i would think is the vast majority of the time. Still be brave with other peoples children

Lock knife - always illegal without good cause. pen knife excemption made for small ones under 3"

http://www.bkcg.co.uk/guide/law.html

The are only illegal to carry in a public place, and the blade length doesn't matter, they are legal at home. If you purchase one you need an itemised receipt to take it home, to ensure you won't get arrested.

Remember the the big anti knife crime drive a few years ago? this was one of the laws the brought in to help the police target people who carry knives.

This article covers the subject better than I ever could:
http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/opinion/comment/law-lock-knives-need-re-examination

If the blade, locks into place and requires a release catch its a lock knife.

I only really know about this as they was a big article in the guardian a year or so ago where a city lawyer got arrested, as the police saw him eating his lunch with a lock knife, and he was disputing the arrest and possible conviction as it would cost him his job (lawyers cannot have a criminal record).

sd-253, what sort of gun does he carry? a shotgun or a rifle or a high powered sniper rifle or a rpg?

supersessions9-2 - Member
sd-253 - are the dogs really aggressive or just excited?

Are their tongues hanging and out and are they dancing around with their tails in the air?

Snarling and low to the groound. By the way I was a guard dog handler at the maze prison where the dogs were not trained to go for the arm but any part of the body they so choose. The baiter wore a suit made of double thickness of webbing with padding in between and bird cage helmet. He had to be fitted into the suit as there was no opening in the sleeves. I think that I would know aggression in a dog. Not being sarcastic towards you supersessions9-2 but to the lover of dogs no matter how aggresive they are to other peoples family

Lock knife - always illegal without good cause. pen knife excemption made for small ones under 3"

Not true according to the Police

A lock knife is not a folding pocket knife and therefore it is illegal to carry around such a knife regardless of the length of the blade

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q337.htm

Snarling and low to the groound

Seriously, if you aren't making this up, and they regularly do that (and the only reason I say regularly, is it will make it easier to prove) report them to the Police now! **** waiting for them to actually bite someone, its your civic reponsibility to let the authorities know immediately so they can take appropriate action, before they actually do attack someone.

Misunderzstanding

Lock knife - always illegal without good cause. [i]P[/i]en knife [i]has[/i] excemption made for small ones under 3"

ie lock knife is never legal - a small non locking penknife is

richc - Member
The are only illegal to carry in a public place, and the blade length doesn't matter, they are legal at home. If you purchase one you need an itemised receipt to take it home, to ensure you won't get arrested.

Remember the the big anti knife crime drive a few years ago? this was one of the laws the brought in to help the police target people who carry knives.

This article covers the subject better than I ever could:
http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/opinion/comment/law-lock-knives-need-re-examination

If the blade, locks into place and requires a release catch its a lock knife.

I only really know about this as they was a big article in the guardian a year or so ago where a city lawyer got arrested, as the police saw him eating his lunch with a lock knife, and he was disputing the arrest and possible conviction as it would cost him his job (lawyers cannot have a criminal record).

Argh a Guardian reader should have known! Thankyou all the same although you could answer the quetion about a pen knife? Also I am lost as to the differance I am pretty sure you could kill someone just as easy with a penknife? I wonder where my machete (the one with a curve on the end it is not called a machete) lies in all this?

I think you're being ignored on your own thread, supersessions9-2.

Amazing troll. Bravo.

Isn't it about time someone was called a nazi?

Or called the edinburgh defence?

Personally, I'm off to walk my dog off the lead

I blame thatcher!

Snarling and low to the groound

Seriously, if you aren't making this up, and they regularly do that (and the only reason I say regularly, is it will make it easier to prove) report them to the Police now! **** waiting for them to actually bite someone, its your civic reponsibility to let the authorities know immediately so they can take appropriate action, before they actually do attack someone.

Sorry got a phone call. I will next time but ithink i may have blown it ie I gave her a ton of abuse the last time her dogs came at me. So she may not use that route again but if I see her i am fairly certain where she parks her car. I will take the license number and photogaraph her but call the police first. Note I cannot recall ever seeing any dog on part of the route other than hers and there is fresh dog shite so she maybe still using it. As the dogs have no collars and no lead she may have problems finding somewhere to walk them. Why she does not collar them and no leads on I have no idea?

Well we had a great time in the lakes.

We totally broke the rules and our dogs ran free on access land. No sheep or nesting birds were chased or harmed.

🙂

richc - Member
The are only illegal to carry in a public place, and the blade length doesn't matter, they are legal at home. If you purchase one you need an itemised receipt to take it home, to ensure you won't get arrested.

Remember the the big anti knife crime drive a few years ago? this was one of the laws the brought in to help the police target people who carry knives.

This article covers the subject better than I ever could:
http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/opinion/comment/law-lock-knives-need-re-examination

If the blade, locks into place and requires a release catch its a lock knife.

I only really know about this as they was a big article in the guardian a year or so ago where a city lawyer got arrested, as the police saw him eating his lunch with a lock knife, and he was disputing the arrest and possible conviction as it would cost him his job (lawyers cannot have a criminal record).

Only just checked that article and It said this

You could say that you use it in your work, but even this explanation will not vindicate you – after arrest it will be a matter for the courts to decide.

Also did quick survey at country show I would say at least a third I asked had a lock knife with them. I think having it with me when I out walking (for skinning) is bound to be a reasonable excuse. You just cost me 14 quid as I bought a pen knife replacement...........nob head........top knife though Rodgers of Shefield with a original blade beauty and a better skining knife but no use for dealing with mad dogs. Paypal would be the best way for you to pay me back just for the lock knife mind 7.50 pound. sd-235

Has anyone actually SEEN a farmer shoot a dog?
Besides me that is. I witnessed a local farmer blast an Alsatian/German Shepherd into oblivion that had mauled one of his sheep.
Not nice to see. Legal & probably called for, but not nice.