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"Britain did, it could be argued, need it's own 9-11. And it got one."
Well you wrote it so you defend it. It seems to me that you support murder.
In a forlorn attempt to close this off…
The reason, Rudy, that you can’t produce any irrefutable evidence is quite simply that there isn’t any.
Now before you go off on that “well you produce evidence” trip, my side of the argument a) Has b) Doesn’t have to, as it is not us making the preposterous suggestion.
So please either fess up and admit defeat, or alternatively provide said evidence, I’m sure the world will laud you greatly if you can do so, especially now Obama is in power.
In the meantime I’ll be there with you, constantly offering to eat my shorts, which I publicly promise to do, without Salt and Pepper or any sauce, when you do.
PS : The Princess Di thing…… 4 people in a car, car hits solid object at high speed. The only one wearing a seat belt survives shocker!
Ok, seeing as how you're finding it difficult to think for yourself:
In order to introduce further restrictions on freedom of movement, democratic rights, and civil liberties, the government would need to instill a sense of fear, in the population, in order that new laws could go through relatively unchallenged. To be able to generate the required amount of fear and paranoia, there would need to be a genuine 'threat' of terrorism, and terrorist attack. Without some real, tangible proof that this threat was 'real', it is unlikely that new laws would be able to go through unchallenged.
And a genuine attack would be a good excuse to implement 'emergency powers', in govenrnment and policing.
The Powers That Be want everyone docile, and easily controllable. So that no-one can challenge their position of power.
This is why I say that Britain 'needed' it's own 9-11.
And if you want to think me an apologist for murder; all those of you defending the 'official story' of the US government, surrounding 9-11, well, maybe you should take a good look at yourselves.
The reason, Rudy, that you can’t produce any irrefutable evidence is quite simply that there isn’t any.Now before you go off on that “well you produce evidence” trip, my side of the argument a) Has b) Doesn’t have to, as it is not us making the preposterous suggestion.
So, you don't have to produce ANY evidence to PROVE the 9-11 attacks were definitely the work of 'terrorists', and that the US govt had absolutely no part to play? Right.
Someone commits a murder, you need to prove they did it, right? So, you'd need evidence.
Where's the evidence that 'terrorists' alone perpetrated the attacks? Hmm? Oh, sorry, I forgot; must be those charred passports, eh?
And myself and Alpin have provided links to evidence of a controlled demolition of the three towers in NYC. If you choose to ignore it, then that's your call, but you can't then accuse someone else of not playing the game.
Ask yourself this: Why are so many American citizens unsatisfied with the official explanation of what really happened? People with nothing to gain, but the Truth?
The main mode of combat of you sheep seems to be to shout louder than others, to drown out their voices. Not working.
Thanks for the reply and your perfect example of how to dance on the head of a pin.
"Britain did, it could be argued, need it's own 9-11. And it got one."
Could still do with you saying how sorry you are for pushing such a view.
mt, as you're obviously struggling, can I recommend something a bit more manageable?
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There you go. Have fun!
"Britain did, it could be argued, need it's own 9-11. And it got one."
RudeBoy - that remark is truly beyond contempt
I'm beginning to think that being flogged by the Taliban is preferable to reading Rudy's sh1te.
It's an uncomfortable thought, is not it?
Even more unsettling, is the idea that our wonderful, democratically elected government could possibly be capable of such an atrocity.
And the attempts to discredit my opinions, with suggestions that I am cruel and heartless, clearly show that you have no idea of who I am. Get over yourselves, with your righteous sanctimony.
Rudy: Spewing out unsupported and scurrulous accusations is not evidence. It simply makes you look daft I'm afraid....... rather like I will if you can manage to make me eat my shorts!
Go on have a go at it.... I dare you
Thanks for the advice the rudeboy, I'll give that one ago. Is there a conspiracy edition?
"Britain did, it could be argued, need it's own 9-11. And it got one."
Frustratting isn't when people don't agree with you.
Frustratting isn't when people don't agree with you.
Not really. Part of being able to have an honest, open and intelligent (!) debate is that opposing views can actually help reinforce and consolidate your own.
I'm quite happy for others to disagree. At least it proves we live in a Society where we are free to have our own opinions.
But can't open and intelligent debate change views? Your sort of debate is about winning, for a guy that says open your mind a lot yours is pretty closed.
"Britain did, it could be argued, need it's own 9-11. And it got one."
At least it proves we live in a Society where we are free to have our own opinions.
Bingo! By jove I think he's got it at long last!!
Just wondering like...
Rudy... is there any evidence that could/would convince you that it wasn't a conspiracy?
In other words, what would it take to make you believe the official line?
G "he's got it at long last" Wishful thinking I suspect.
is there any evidence that could/would convince you that it wasn't a conspiracy?
Well, where is it?
No no Rudy, you are missing the point of the question... would it ever be possible to convince you that it wasn't a conspiracy? And to do that, what would the sort of evidence be that would be required?
Yes, I am open minded enough to accept the possibility that the official story could be correct; I just don't believe it is. Too much points towards it being flawed.
Lots of stuffs to read [url= http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 ]here[/url].
Some of it very, very inertesting indeed.
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Rude Boy said:
myself and Alpin have provided links to evidence of a controlled demolition of the three towers in NYC. If you choose to ignore it, then that's your call, but you can't then accuse someone else of not playing the game.
Sorry mate, I didn’t think you were actually serious about these.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2001/Sep-16-Sun-2001/news/17011253.html
A faulty link apparently to a newspaper website reporting the finding of a passport that might be linked to a hijhacker, which incidentally also reports the discovery of the bound body of a flight attendant. Proves nowt.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=821
A link to the another website which clearly isn’t an authoritative journal either. Proves Nowt
http://www.ae911truth.org/announce/4
A link to a “Truth” campaign website which again proves nowt.
A link to another website which conclusively proved on inspection that people do bullshit to create the conspiracy illusion.
So simply put, apart from some dodgy websites which prove absolutely nothing, you’ve posted no evidence whatsoever. So blatantly so that I hardly bothered to respond to it. However, as you are dumb enough to see that as evidence that’s my rebuttal of it. Its self evidently garbage.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
Another "Truth" campaign website. Tell me please how a biased fairy story online is anything other than deeply suspect?? Please
Just as a matter of interest Rudy, you don't respond to those emails about winning a lottery you haven't entered/a relative you haven't got leaving you a fortune.... do you??
Like I said, G-Man; you believe what you want to believe. If you don't want to actually read what is presented to you, and follow links to other information, then that's your choice. But if you don't, then you have no right to dismiss the information/ideas held therin.
You've gone to greater lengths to express your opinion about how you feel myself and Alpin are wrong, than you have in [b]proving[/b] it was the work of terrorists. You claim you don't need to. Ok then, by the same token, do we have to prove it was not?
See, you can prove it was indeed the work of terrorists operating independently no more than the US Government can! So, why, I ask, should anyone believe your story? All you've done, to support your argument, is link to the official report. Which does not in any way actually prove, irrefutably, the claims made within. As I have said several times now.
And I think it was about this point yesterday, that I got bored. I'm bored again, because all we are doing is repeating stuff from yesterday. pointless.
One good thing that has come out of it; I've now read a lot more stuff on the events, and am even more convinced that the official story is indeed a sham. So, thanks for that!
And I suspect that deep down, some of you who claim I am wrong, are beginning to have your own doubts about what you yourselves thought was the 'truth'...
It's ok, you can think for yourselves! It may be scary at first, but it gets easier, over time.
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So what do you think about this girl getting her arse royally spanked then Rudy?
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It's brutal and barbaric, and reveals a culture where fear and ignorance rule over rationality, tolerance and open-mindedness.
Bit like this place:
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I find it somewhat disturbing, that you are seeking to 'score points', over issues surrounding the deaths of thousands of innocent people.
Brilliant, but you kinda opened yourself up there buddy. Can you see it???
No I don't. What I do see, is a desire in you, to 'win'.
Tell you what, why not take up a competitive sport?
Extraordinary Rendition…. A long name for totally illegal behaviour on any level you care to judge it by. Now this was a carefully orchestrated plot by the CIA to address issues that the combined wit and wisdom of the National Security Department were unable to address in any other way (shamefully). It had the full backing of the President and the top folks in both the Pentagon and the Whitehouse and guess what? They were totally unable to keep it quiet. Now how the hell do you think they would able to keep 9/11 covert for goodness sake! It has ramifications way beyond Guantanemo Bay.
I find it somewhat disturbing, that you are seeking to 'score points', over issues surrounding the deaths of thousands of innocent people.
Good attempt at diverting the subject again, but it won’t work. You raised the whole 9/11 thing, I didn’t, and all I am seeking to do is have you corroborate your wild and frankly shameful accusations with some evidence, or alternatively accept that they are just that. To be fair you have been very close to the latter to your credit, and I have to say I suspect you would receive considerable increase in respect should you go that wee bit further. Regarding points scoring, just my way of injecting a wee bit of levity into what is a very serious subject. No offence intended.
Either Rudeboy or alpin got a response to my point about how if it was a conspiracy they managed to avoid any leaks from the many, many people who would have been involved (yet can't manage to prevent photos being taken which supposedly show something they'd not like people to see)?