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Question is can you, or should you, turn the blade over as and when it feels as though the sharpness has dulled slightly, or even flip it over on a regular basis? Does it make any difference?

If you mean take the blade out and turn it over.... no it will make no difference.

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Blades (whatever's in the supermarket, which typically isn't as fancy as Gillette of Wilksinson Sword)

Those will probably be Persona blades - not that your bothered 😉

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Posted : 01/09/2010 3:30 pm
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Doh! now look what's happened after reading this thread...... bought another old Gillette. This time a late '40s Aristocrat Junior for less than £12.00 - certainly worth a lot more than that 🙂


 
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Doh! now look what's happened after reading this thread...... bought another old Gillette. This time a late '40s Aristocrat Junior for less than £12.00 - certainly worth a lot more than that

Where did you buy it from?


 
Posted : 01/09/2010 3:59 pm
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Haven't got time to read through all the other posts, so my apologies if this is a re-post.

Have you tried [url= http://www.winkelplein.nu/barbershopsuply/default.asp?sid=fqEwu5Tz76SngqBIYlVUxeq2tIiJXe ]THE DUTCH SHAVING SHOP[/url].

I got one called Lord Metal Double Edge Safety Razor -Krabbertje.

Been very happy with it so far. I'm still in the process of finding the best blade, oh and the nicest soap.

Here is a little more detail.


Lord Metal Double Edge Safety Razor ,,Premium,, Lp.1822.

Lord Sterling 3 pieces Razor is made according to the high standards to give you a premium shave ever get.It,s durable metal parts hold the blade at the perfect angle to the face .This critical angle along with Lord blades makes your shaving smoth and close all days long.

Lord has be owned by Schick-Wilkinson for a long period of time.

3 pieces metal quality razor for a nice price.

Comes with 1 lord double edge Razor Blade.

Best Tested by the shaving forums.

Lord The Art Of Shaving-Made in Egypt.

I bought a selection pack of blades and so far the best have been the Lord ones. Funny that! Still only another 53 blades to use.


 
Posted : 01/09/2010 4:09 pm
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HoHum: the Bay of Thieves. Not entirely sure the seller knew what it was 😉


 
Posted : 01/09/2010 4:27 pm
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LOL That was a nice one. I've been beaten on a few over the past couple of days. I'm wondering how many have been bought by people from STW?

Come on, own up 😉

I 'won' a black Wardonia in a 'Service' box but the pic was so bad it was hard to tell which model. Worth a punt for £1.99!


 
Posted : 01/09/2010 5:08 pm
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Not me.... I've been intent on not looking at razors until the other day. I'll stay away for a while now (maybe).
That said looking at the prices of the razors on SafetyRazors.co.uk there's obviously some money to be made - there's a Gillette Ball End Tech on there for £30 and I bought mine for £3.00!
I suspect a good Aristocrat Junior would go for about £65.00, so even if I had mine replated I'd still be £40.00 better off. People are now realising that the vintage razors are sometimes better than the new ones and the prices are rising accordingly.


 
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HoHum: the Bay of Thieves. Not entirely sure the seller knew what it was

Thanks.

Just been having a look and there are a lot of interesting things for sale on there.

Hmmm, I think that I will have a more detailed browse later on 🙂


 
Posted : 01/09/2010 6:32 pm
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How often do you change a blade on a DE razor? Every shave or can you use them several times? I'm looking for a cheap razor on ebay now, anything in particular to look out for?


 
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Doh! now look what's happened after reading this thread...... bought another old Gillette. This time a late '40s Aristocrat Junior for less than £12.00 - certainly worth a lot more than that

Bloody hell ... that's a steal 😯 . I have been trying to get hold of one but the bid always ended higher than I thought.

Bought 5 razors (2 double and 3 single edge) for £3 at local antique market because one of them was a Gillette Fatboy. One aluminium safety razor and 3 single edge razor which I don't use but simply look at as I bought it only because I spotted a Fatboy.

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How often do you change a blade on a DE razor? Every shave or can you use them several times? I'm looking for a cheap razor on ebay now, anything in particular to look out for?

Changing blade depends on individual. Yes, you can use them several times. I change blade once a week which is ok for me but not for some especially if you have wire beard.

There are some good ones on ebay at the moment such as:

1) Item number: 330464016471
2) Item number: 300461283757
3) Item number: 120614400290
4) Item number: 220660636341
5) Item number: 280555839135 (doubt you need all of them but ...)
6) Item number: 220660636341
7) Item number: 290469425549
8) Item number: 130426461040
9) Item number: 150487010105 (could be expensive i.e. > £60)
10)Item number: 260658307042 [b](you might want to start with this one)[/b]
11)Item number: 260658309070 (will be expensive i.e. > £65)
12)Item number: 260658309585 (will be expensive i.e. > £50)
13)Item number: 260658728407
14)Item number: 260658731529
15)Item number: 260658732239 (nice but not for you as it's open comb)
16)Item number: 220662974316 [b](60s Gillette Super Speed ... go for it)[/b]
17)Item number: 250689583112 (fatboy & barber pole ... good)
18)Item number: 290467287669 (this one but price is sky rocketing ...)
19)Item number: 330467547185

Any of those listed above should be a good start except item 15 and 17 open comb which may be a bit risky for you.

I have highlighted item 10 & 16 (both 60s SuperSpeed) which I think are very good in terms of the condition. I have one myself.

Most are Gillette Tech that I think you could start with but should not pay more than £10 to £12 including delivery but some are sold by charity so it is up to you.

There are few items that highly sort after and I can see the price sky rocketing at the last minute so I shall just sit and watch. 😆

Just clean it or wash it then boil with hot water and you are good to go.

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Posted : 02/09/2010 1:37 am
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^^^^

Funny you should list a Gillette Super Speed chewkw as I bought one of those last night after reading the reviews on Badger and Blade 🙂


 
Posted : 02/09/2010 9:33 am
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Nice research chewkw ..... you've got too much time on your hands! I wish you hadn't posted that though as I'm now looking at them 😥

In reality I think there's only one more Gilltte I would like now but its so closely related to th Aristocrat Junior i got yesterday I may not bother.

Not sure I'd boil a shaver as some coatings can be damaged by water that is too hot. A good soak and scrub with Mr Muscle should also do the job.

Prices are certainly rising aren't they!

How much did you pay for the SS Ho Hum? Think I paid £15 delivered for my '53 model including a small [modern] leather case.

Oh one other little bit of info: if you buy a razor that has worn plating Dave at Safetyrazors.co.uk will strip, replate and polish it for £15.00.


 
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Christ, you really can sell any old sht can't you? :P)


 
Posted : 02/09/2010 10:34 am
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Yes..... yes you can 🙂


 
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How much did you pay for the SS Ho Hum? Think I paid £15 delivered for my '53 model including a small [modern] leather case.

I think it was about £15 in the end delivered from the USA. I should really go and check. No case though.

The reviews I read on Badger and Blade were really positive and that was what swayed me in the end.

I can't wait until it arrives now!

Edit - just checked and I paid £16.27. It also said it was a Super Speed Flare Tip. Off to google to find out what Flare Tip means....


 
Posted : 02/09/2010 11:15 am
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Nice one. Flare tip is the one with the conical door opener on the bottom. Great razors - nice small head that makes doing the tricky bits much easier.


 
Posted : 02/09/2010 11:40 am
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I've got a Merkur futur which I've been very happy with for around 5 years.

But just recently I've been finding it difficult to get a nice shave from it (I've been cutting my face more and getting uneven shaving across the blade). I put it down to a faulty batch of blades for a while, but examining it last night I found some significant patches of corrosion on the parts which hold the blade in place - to the extent that I think they are deforming the shape of the cutting edge.

I find this a bit disappointing to be honest - has anyone else's suffered from this or is it just mine?

BOAS


 
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Just a note to say thanks guys. I came across an old (1917 date stamp) brass Gillette travel razor that I've had kicking about for years. Motivated by this tread, off I went to Boots to pick up blades, soap and styptic pencil. Wow, I'd forgotten just how good a shave it is. Quick, easy, close and remarkably bloodless - no need for the pencil.

And if any one's interested, [url= http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lot-26-Vintage-GILLETTE-Safety-Razors-/280555839135?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item41526e5e9f ]these are on fleabay just now[/url]


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 9:00 am
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I've been clearing out my late Uncle's house recently and this thread prompted me to find his old razor, which I'd seen but previously ignored.

It's a Rolls Razor Viscount, just like this. I think it's early '50s. Everything like in the picture except the instruction leaflet.

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I've honed it and stropped it and tried a shave myself but it's not really my thing.

I'm going to go back to my Gillette Sensor Excel with Tesco Gel and put this feller on eBay.

Unless anybody has any other ideas...


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 10:25 am
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Ebay would seem to be the place to sell vintage razors mate.

I was amazed by how many were for sale.

Fingers crossed that it is very collectable and you get a decent price for it 🙂

I was experimenting with my shaving set up this week and tried out a Merkur blade I had kicking about and although it was nice and sharp it did scrape my skin places and left it feeling quite raw so I went back to the yellow Gillette blades this morning and had a much better shave.


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 10:32 am
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Unless anybody has any other ideas...

Well the Sensor Excel/gel idea is completely pants, but the idea about eBaying the old razor is a good'un. I bet you could get good money for that (which you 'could' put into a normal doubled edged razor).


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 10:33 am
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If anyones in Gairloch, theres a bric a brac shop which had something looking very similar to that thing Bigjohn posted, I think it was 2 quidoud need to rummage tho, I think it was to the right of the door.


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 10:56 am
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There's a shaving shop opened in our town, so i went to get myself a new razor. ended up with one of those Merkur Futur things. £50 for a razor? I must be mental. More money than sense, etc, etc. Then I tried it. second shave, up to 2 on the adjustor. 24 hours later, still smooth. what an utterly awesome shave. I've always reckoned the razor is just a carrier for the blade, but this is just soo different. So, £50 - steep, but very very good.


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 1:43 pm
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Folks,

If you need a good shaving brush at reasonable price then you might want to consider animal friendly [b]Boar brush[/b] like this one I just ordered today.

This one: Semogue 620 - £13.08(including tax) + £2.21 delivery from [url= http://www.shaving.ie/categories/Shaving-Brushes/Boar/ ]www.shaving.ie (Ireland)[/url]

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They are also having sale on 200 bulk pack Gillette Yellow 7 O'Clock Sharp Edge for £24.56 (including tax) + £3.31 delivery.

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[url= http://www.shaving.ie/products/200-Gillette-7-O-Clock-Sharp-Edge.html ]Gillette Yelow 7 O'Clock Sharp Edge (www.shaving.ie)[/url]

The Gillette Yellow 7 O'Clock Sharp Edge and Iridium Super Blades are both brilliant blades with the latter out of stock. I am waiting for them to stock up Iridium again (250 bulk pack) before I order and am considering ordering Gillette Yellow tomorrow. So with all these blades I am going to have I will just have to wait for the nuclear war to start and still enjoy my shave every morning.

😆

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There's a shaving shop opened in our town, so i went to get myself a new razor. ended up with one of those Merkur Futur things. £50 for a razor?

You should look at really desirable classic Gillette safety razor and your £50 will not even go near in buying one.

As for Merkur adjustable I prefer the classic look of Merkur Progress Long Handle 510001 or Merkur Progress short handle.

[url= http://www.shaving.ie/categories/Safety-Razors/Adjustable-Safety-Razors/ ]Here from Shaving.ie again ... [/url]


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 6:28 pm
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My Gillette Super Speed arrived on Saturday and I tried my first shave with it yesterday and I was very pleased with the results.

The finish of the plating is a little bit tarnished in places, but not bad considering how old it is.

I may have to look into having it replated to bring it back to its former glory!


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 11:30 am
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I may have to look into having it replated to bring it back to its former glory!

Dave at Safetyrazors.co.uk will strip, replate and polish it for £15.00.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 11:33 am
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Thank you sharkbait.

I will have a look into that and will probably go ahead and get it done soon.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 11:38 am
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This razor thing is becoming as bad as my mtb addiction. I have now picked up 4 different razors + a load of different blades which came with them, a badger brush and some nice shaving soap at a total cost of around £70. Apart from the soap, I think I have enough to remain clean shaven for at least 10 years!

FWIW I've found the best/closest shave is with the Parker/feather combo as the handle is longer than the others and the weight feels 'just right'. The Merkur HD/Seven o'clock is also very nice but I've only used that a couple of times so far. The others also give a good shave and TBH there is nothing wrong with the £3.99 Boots one. It does exactly the same job!


 
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A friend of my wife directed this
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371208


 
Posted : 15/09/2010 4:14 pm
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I found a bowl of erasmic soap in a chemist the other day. Awesome lather and great shave. Just thought I'd share.

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althiugh I did like this image I found when googling for erasmic images

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Posted : 15/09/2010 4:28 pm
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Reading this reminded me that in about 1963 my dad got a single razor blade as part of a "consumer survey" i.e. try it, and we'll be in touch to find out what you think.

It was unbranded and he recalls that it not only gave him the best shave he'd ever had but it lasted about 10 times longer than usual.

Oddly, the market research people never got back in touch. This led to all sort of conspiracy theories, like Gillette had sabotaged the research etc. etc.


 
Posted : 15/09/2010 4:37 pm
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Yesterday I bought one bottle each of this from my local barber shop (well about 2 miles away). They are also selling them on Ebay so just search for the name of the product or Maguires Barbershop and you will see their products. The Italian aftershave is a bit difficult to find so I was surprised to find someone selling them in the Toon.

Proraso 400ml
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Floid Blue 400ml (Italian version not Spanish as the latter contain high alcohol)
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Both have nice scent that I like as they are not overpowering like cologne. The scent can last for 1 to 2 hour which I prefer so everything is good. Got both of them with barber style aftershave atomisers like this one.

[url= http://www.shaving.ie/products/Barber-Style-Atomiser-for-Floid-Aftershave-Bottles.html# ]Barber style aftershave automiser[/url]

I also briefly tried Floid Amber at the barber shop like this one and I like the scent too but most people prefer the Blue. (will buy this later)

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I haven't managed to buy Erasmic shaving soap locally but I am not bothered as I can find Palmolive shave soap stick (49p - 69p), Palmolive shave (lather) cream in toothpaste type tube (£1.58) and Ingram shave (lather) cream in toothpaste type tube (£1.68 - £1.75) easily. IMO Palmolive shave stick is by far the best and far cheaper too. I bought eight ... 😆

Price might be a more but with 400ml that will last you a long time ... :mrgreen:

Time to see how the chicks react to all this manly scent 😆


 
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Just picked up a 48p palmolive stick and a £3.48 shaving brush and got this as the "you'll probably want this too" voucher
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Can only assume tesco monitor STW and assume I'm going to attack myself with a 60's razor!
Soap and brush gave a brilliant shave with a modern razor so I'll not be buying expensive foam again!


 
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no, no, this what you want, about £1.50 from Tesco or Boots. dab, sting, sorted
Stops bleeding faster and cleaner

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Right then.

I've just taken delivery of my new (old) Gillette safety razor - [url= http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350393567467&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_760wt_1049 ]this one[/url], I think it's a Tech.

Do I call the ambulance before I start or get MrsG ready to call halfway through? I live in a rural area.


 
Posted : 23/09/2010 10:19 am
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Nice razor freddyg and an excellent price as well!

From what I have read the Tech is supposed to be quite a mild shave in terms of aggressiveness.

Have fun anyway.


 
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I'll try.

I must admit I'm a little nervous. I've had loads of cut-throat shaves, but they've always been performed by someone who knows what they're doing. My 25 years of shaving has always been with multi-blade jobbies.

There was a single unused blade in with it, but I'm going to hang on until the new Derby Extra blades turn up.


 
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just take your time, shower first, plenty of lather (soap and brush, not foam), cheeks first, very unlikely to cut yourself so get some confidence and do the tricky bits, under lip and under nose last. don't press against the skin, just hold the razor against the skin, it'll work. maybe try it without the blades in just to get the feel, remember run the blade across the skin, don't press against or into it.


 
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Inspired by this thread, I picked up an el cheapo WS razor at the weekend, fiver from Boots. Not tried it yet.

If this turns out to be my last post on here for a while, it's because I'm in A&E.


 
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Well I'm not dead and I'm not posting this from a pool of blood on the bathroom floor. I'm actually quite impressed and, more importantly, so is MrsG.

BBSB - thanks for the tips. Worked really well.

My verdict, so far, is that I'm going to stick with it. I think my technique needs some work as there parts that still feel like they could do with another going over. I gave it two passes over two days worth of stubble, trying to go in the direction of growth (but below the jaw line, the growth is in different directions - odd). The result is slightly better than my trusty old mach 3 and I do feel a little razor burn; however, as my technique improves, so will the quality of the shave.

I've 'invested' in a few different types of blade to try - at a couple of pounds a pop (for 10 blades) it'd be silly not to; also sourced some samples of shave cream from Taylor of Bond Street and Geo. F. Trumper - they smell great.


 
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A good aftershave balm will help to calm down any razor burn.

I bought some Body Shop Razor Relief yesterday and used it this morning and it certainly does what it says on the tin.


 
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freddy - first pass with the growth, second against it. third across it if yiou can be ar5ed, don't usually bother with the third myself.
if it's your first go, well done, you'll get better and faster with practice.
I use that erasmic soap i mentioned at the top of this page - >£2, nice smell and once the brush is loaded I can lather so i look like santa claus twice. found it in an independant chemists. never used post shave other than after-shave (high alcohol contebt, nippynippynippy)or witch hazel (no smell). Might try some of that body shop stuff hohum mentioned.

Cougar, are you still with us? hello? cougar? anyone know his blood type?


 
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Yep, first go. I might have another go this evening as even though it's only 6 hours since the last one, I can feel some growth already. I'll try a different blade (I used the unused 7 o'clock blade that came with the razor - it was donkeys years old).

You mention that the second pass should be against the growth - is that right? I thought that was a guaranteed way of getting burn/ingrowing hairs etc.

As for Cougar - he's still around, hopefully there hasn't been too much blood-loss. 8)


 
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You mention that the second pass should be against the growth - is that right? I thought that was a guaranteed way of getting burn/ingrowing hairs etc

Very lightly in both directions works well for me. I await my new/old Tech to arrive and have a feather ready to go when it does! Thanks to STW I have been DE shaving for about two weeks now, razor burn has disappeared! Technique just about sorted 😉


 
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