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Here's what I would do.......
Send him a recorded delivery letter with copies of the all the deeds, about 3 quid per plot from the LR, usually has a drawing, sometimes highlighted in red showing access rights. Word it in the correct legal fashion (no insults or other waffle) making it clear he has no right to prevent/restrict access to said properties and show it has been cc'd to a solicitor.
Send him a recorded delivery letter with copies of the all the deeds, about 3 quid per plot from the LR, usually has a drawing, sometimes highlighted in red showing access rights. Word it in the correct legal fashion (no insults or other waffle) making it clear he has no right to prevent/restrict access to said properties and show it has been cc’d to a solicitor.
This^
Then in a year or so get someone to beat ***k out of him*.
* Don't do this.
If he doesn’t listen to reason, I’d wait until it was finished then pull the fence panel over between him and the first neighbour where the gate should be. While muttering about how stiff this new gate is. Then leave the fence panel propped up with a note saying the hinges must have been stiff and it fell off.
Piss on his dog, burn his sausages, freeze his wife and hammer baby robins in to his lawn.
I live in a terrace of houses with shared access across neighbours gardens. We're in the middle so don't have access across ours, we have access past the neighbours kitchen on one side to get to the side passage leaving to the street. Slightly odd layout, normally access it as the ends of the gardens but for out terrace it right along the back of the houses at the start of the garden - which is more intrusive.
Here is a friend driving a mini digger past the back of the neighbours house into our garden..
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Our neighbour on the other side has access across 4 houses to get out. Many years ago they got blocked off by their neighbour blocking the gate - it ended up in court and they regained access with all fees paid by the losing party. The losing party is still there are hasn't tried the same trick again, although he's a lot older now and has mellowed a lot with age.
although he’s a lot older now and has mellowed a lot with age
Should have been birched, then National Service, then birched again, then hung.
suspect my bins will get relocated in a neighbouring county or even a waste skip
I'd suggest given that soon you will have no other access to get them out, you and the other eight houses relocate your bins into his/her front garden right now.
I would literally stand in the way so the joiner couldn’t put the fence up.
Do you also think digital watches are a pretty neat idea? (-:
Just climb over with the bins in a "it's a knockout" style each week
I'd also try and get a letter before action out to him and the fencing company. It may stop them.
Get Nick Frost round:
That’s a bit annoying. I used to have my neighbours park all over my access , they had right of access across my driveway but not right to park. They’d block me in and all sorts. I got really fed up with it but one night his car got nicked and he was absolutely convinced I had stolen it ! I hadn’t but it clearly made him sh1t himself that I would do that so I remained silent on the matter.
Could it be a fire escape? Could you ask a local station MASTER? around? This would carry a lot of weight if it's the only means of escape from the rear of the properties.
Could you ask a local station MASTER
Is there a rail track running through his garden as well, how unfortunate is that.
burn the ***ker down.
IIRC if you find a blocked path / right o9f way you have the right to unblock it. Not certain tho. If so would this apply here?
Update (now I've been reminded). The guy has now decided that he is going to remove a fence panel at 8:00am each weekday morning so that we can step over the concrete base to get in and out and he's going to put the fence panel back at 8:00pm each week day evening. We are to knock on his back door between these hours if we need help to lift bins over etc.
Weekends will be "During the day". He's making it harder for burglars apparently. High Peak council were not interested. One of the care agencies for a very elderly neighbour are looking in to what they can do. I get more annoyed every time I look at it.
He knows he's in the wrong and is hoping this concession will be enough to keep his fence, keep gnawing at that bone.
The guy has now decided that he is going to remove a fence panel at 8:00am each weekday morning so that we can step over the concrete base to get in and out and he’s going to put the fence panel back at 8:00pm
What happens when he is on holiday (apart from ripping the whole lot out obviously)?
Update (now I’ve been reminded). The guy has now decided that he is going to remove a fence panel at 8:00am each weekday morning so that we can step over the concrete base to get in and out and he’s going to put the fence panel back at 8:00pm each week day evening. We are to knock on his back door between these hours if we need help to lift bins over etc.
Weekends will be “During the day”. He’s making it harder for burglars apparently. High Peak council were not interested. One of the care agencies for a very elderly neighbour are looking in to what they can do. I get more annoyed every time I look at it.
The bloke’s clearly a full, weapons grade Whopper.
The situation is ridiculous and it can't carry on like this.
Has he never heard of gates? He could put a gate in, get ten keys cut, job jobbed.
If he's planning on lifting out fence panels every week whatever the weather it's hardly an anti-burglary security measure. Besides which, my understanding was that the full fence was between him and the other properties - does he think you are going to burgle him?
Lifting bins? Is this "concrete base" not something you can roll a bin over? I'm assuming one of those concrete post affairs then?
My bins have to out by 0700
I appreciate you might have different bin men
What if you leave for work at 0630 and want to put your bin out then, door knock at 0630 is rather rude
No good, its got to be 2 x gates 20 x keys or combination locks, try not be fobbed off with this lifting out 2 panels every single day, its sounds like utter tosh to me.
Dealing with a holes is very trying, its hard not to be dragged down to their level.
Walks out of back door. Gets bin. Strolls down all of the other gardens. Gets to idiot's fence. Picks up bin chucks it over fence. Chambers over fence. Pick up bin, maybe not all the bits that have fallen out of it. Strolls across garden to the next fence. Chucks bin over the next fence. Leaves it for bin men. Climbs back over fence. Walks back over garden to the next fence. Climbs over that. Good home.
That evening. Repeat in reverse.
If you could get all of your neighbors to do the same thing every week, I think that fence might get removed.
I’d be banging on his door at 6am every morning saying you need to wheel your bike out for your daily constitutional.
I’d be climbing over the fence as often as possible. I’d also be going for some late night rides and coming back at 2am banging on his door for him allow you access. I’d also stand and watch as he lifted the panel and your bin. What a tosser
Polite note explaining that what he is doing is massively antisocial, tied to a brick and delivered through a shut window.
Honestly, the world would just be a better place without some folk in it. If someone is a temporary knob because they've had a bad day, fair enough. This sort of behaviour is something else altogether.
I'd just be removing the fence panels and putting them in his garden. You have a legal right to access. Thats it.
Compromise is an agreement where everyone leaves the table dissatisfied so....
Ok have your fence, but no concrete gravel board ad you cannot lift your wheey bin due to old war wounds
And a written agreement that any neighbour can remove the panels s from 0700 to 2000hrs. So if he is having a lie in after a night on the Stella anyone can / will open the. 2 panels, same of an evening. He wants to mark his territory with fences and really does not want anyone any near his property, despite the deeds and historical access rights.
Actually the guy sounds like such a wgbe that you could open up and pop down the shops and come back 20 minutes later to find the panels in and faffage needed to get back home.
Screw that, burn the thing down
its got to be 2 x gates 20 x keys or combination locks,
"Keyed alike" locks is a thing. But combination locks is a very good shout.
High Peak council were not interested
Really, this is the door you need to be kicking down. Make them interested, it's their job. What have the other properties had to say? It's harder to ignore nine complaints than one.
Councillor, MP, local paper.....
I’d just be removing the fence panels and putting them in his garden.
I'd do this too TJ.
What I'd also do is wait until he was out and cut the panel 2" shorter so when he tries to put it back in it's to short for the gap.
Do you also think digital watches are a pretty neat idea? (-:
Not sure what you're getting at really, probably just being a **** for the sake of it, but yeah some are great. This is mine...
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We are to knock on his back door between these hours if we need help to lift bins over etc.
You should co-ordinate with your neighbours. 1st person knocks, does bin, then leave it a few mins when he’s sat back down and then 2nd person does it and so on.
I work standby. Can get called out any time of day or night. I'd be getting back in the wee small hours and realising I've only taken the key for the back door.
Or, my alarm on sets for an exit out the back door. Is he willing to pay an engineer to come and reprogram my alarm?
I can see we're all trying to keep reasonably civilised, but this does sound like the sort of situation where he should be offered some fist pie.
Tell him to get ****ed it's not up to that prick when or how you and your neighbours use that access
If he clearly does not care you only really have three options
1) legal route
2) smash it down - cleverly
3) let him get away with it.
Not sure what you’re getting at really, probably just being a **** for the sake of it, but yeah some are great.
Don't be grumpy. It's a Hitch-Hiker's Guide joke / reference that you've missed.
Just store the wheelie bins outside the front of the house
I assume the access way across the back is right next to the houses? Could an alternative solution be that everyone agrees to forfeit the bottom metre of their gardens so a shared alleyway with fencing and gates into each individual properties can be built? Of course, with you at the far end, you'd lose nothing.. 😉
No option to leave the bins out front. We live on quite a steep hill and the front doors open out on to the road. Albeit a very quiet road but a near single track road. Cars trying to negotiate past each other, rather than one waiting for the other to clear the narrow road is sometimes quite the spectacle. Bin day usually results in chaos as it is.
I think I’m the youngest on the row. It does sometimes feel like OAP central.
Clearly this situation can’t remain. The man is a bully of the highest order.
Yes. The access path is right outside the back door. There are Some very elderly people. Covid is proving very challenging for a few already. This is distressing them even more.
The damn fence needs another gate on ‘our’ side if not flattening completely! This can’t carry on.
I take it back. Pay someone to beat the ***k out of him.
Local press and radio always love a good story, have you been in touch with them, especially if the elderly are been disadvantaged.
You could always chain yourself to the fence when they come out for photos.😉
I hate bullies, I’d be having a competition with him. Who can be the biggest dickhead. And as my wife pointed out, when it comes to it. “You’ll always win a dickhead competition”.
I’d be pulling it down, whilst pretending I thought it was a gate.
Waking him numerous times a night to ‘just nip out’
Lashing bin over and spilling contents, then walk thorough second gate as if everything is normal.
Lifting pane out and accidentally snapping concrete base board every time. (They’re weak as piss if pushed from the side, especially with no wait on top)
Standing all over plants as I ‘stumble’ over the concrete base board
Wind him up more than he’s winding you up.
Jesus H Chirst monksie. Sounds rubbish.
I thought we needed up with a tool of a grumpy and rather odd neighbour when we were in an end terrace house, but this is a whole different level. You have my sympathies.