What relevance does that have to anything?
Is it a statement, a quote, or just some stream of consciousness thing?
there is not single circumstance where if all SNP seats go to labour it would alter whether we got a labour government or not.
For arguments sake.... Next GE
Tories 300 seats
Labour 276 seats
SNP 50 seats
Others 24 seats
If those 50 SNP seats had gone to Labour we wouldn't have a Labour government?
For arguments sake…
You've come to the right place... 🤣
The problem is that her supporters will probably agree with the language…but it will put some waverers off, and Labour needs all those waverers if it’s ever to form a government.
there is not single circumstance where if all SNP seats go to labour it would alter whether we got a labour government or not.
Apart from if SNP and Labour act like children and won't agree to form a coalition because you know the SNP might want a referendum promise as part of the coalition deal.
I think the issue isnt really what she said, but more the party's inability to own the message. On Andrew Marr KS spent more time trying to dodge questions about this and nationalisation than he did saying anything of any merit. Instead of using weasel language he should have just said "yes, and here's why..." or "No, and here's why..." and moved the debate on. If we have learnt anything about politics over the last few years its that taking a stand and holding it, even if its utter bullshit, carries more weight than trying to deflect and survive and hoping the centre ground somehow switches its allegiance.
Spot on @Blackflag
This kind of David Cameron-esque trying not to offend anyone but saying nothing is getting Labour nowhere.
Perhaps not everything has a yes/no answer. Trying to reduce everything to such a simple response is arguably the biggest problem in UK politics right now (well, after down right lies and corruption).
Saying 'on the one hand this but on the other hand this' might be realistic and sensible but then everyone will just say you are indecisive and weak. 🤷♂️
Its not reductive to be able to answer a question directly. When asked about re-nationalisation of a sector (trains, energy etc.) there are some clear answers than can be given:
A) Yes, its critical to our national infrastructure.
B) No, we dont want to wind the clock back but we want to work with industry
C) Yes, some elements (which elements? why these elements...)
To try and say "we will be working closely with private sector" or "consider options" without addressing the core question means utterly nothing. I could go on TV and say that.
100% agree with everything above.
This kind of David Cameron-esque trying not to offend anyone but saying nothing is getting Labour nowhere.
completely agree.
Britain is literally (figuratively) falling apart at the seams, and the Labour Party are engaging in a hugely intense and self indulgent round of navel gazing, instead of being **** ing furious about it, and telling us all to be **** ing furious about it too.
The next few months are going to see the government lurching for cock-up to cock-up on an hourly basis - the Labour Party need a bit of fire in their belly - and a front man/woman who can capitalise of this bunch of clowns and actually turn that into future labour votes.
