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I have found receipts (with their address) in rubbish dumped so here is what I do.

Can't help thinking you'd have been better off letting the council find the receipt and prosecute them for fly-tipping.

(Though I accept I may be putting too much faith in the legal process).


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 10:39 am
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[i]They may think twice about ever doing it again[/i]

Someone has too much faith in scum having the ability to think.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 10:41 am
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They will have to pay postage plus a ยฃ1 to get the letter... They may think twice about ever doing it again.

That'd scare me off!

Or I'd just stop adding blatantly incriminating evidence to my fly tips.

[i]Or[/i] if I was super-cunning (by Oirish traveller standards) I'd leave a note with someone else's address!

I'm wasted in my job.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 10:42 am
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Never occurred to me that it might be travellers.

In fact, there was a receipt lying next to the mound of crap:


I am surprised you failed to link the dumping and a caravan site together before you started this thread and I thank god STW was here to make this massive leap of deductive logic for you.
Claiming you did not realise when you started it I call this The clarkson defence

utterly indefensible behaviour and if it is them then they deserve to be severely punished for this. I hate the dumping of stuff illegally


 
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We caught the same PVC windows guy twice! made him come back and clear up photographed him doing it.

So it was the contractor then not the home owner.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 10:50 am
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[i]Claiming you did not realise when you started it [/i]

Funny eh. I just have no prejudice against travellers, weirdo that I am.


 
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Is this a "southren" phenomenon, I don't see a lot of evdidence of fly tipping where I live, Central Scotland. There are TV programmes about it but, as I can only stand them for about 15s, it always seems to be darn saarth. Not trying to make any point in particular here just curious if this is the case. [/anti-flame disclaimer]


 
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Scots come down south to dump their rubbish. FACT


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:00 am
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Scots come down south to dump their rubbish. FACT

That's OK, I always stick a wheelie bin's worth in the boot when I head north and pop it off at the side of the M74.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:04 am
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[quote=DezB said]I just have no prejudice against travellers, weirdo that I am.
still claims the clarkson defence


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:09 am
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Is this a "southren" phenomenon, I don't see a lot of evdidence of fly tipping where I live, Central Scotland. There are TV programmes about it but, as I can only stand them for about 15s, it always seems to be darn saarth. Not trying to make any point in particular here just curious if this is the case.

*sets sat-nav for 'here be McDragons' and fills the boot with broken tellys*


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:10 am
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In all the years I've been hacking the South Downs I can't honestly think of one serious fly dumping incident, ok I've seen loads of branches and grass cuttings the other side of Bishops Waltham but that has to be about it.
So there you have it, where I live it never happens ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:11 am
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In all the years I've been hacking the South Downs I can't honestly think of one serious fly dumping incident, ok I've seen loads of branches and grass cuttings the other side of Bishops Waltham but that has to be about it.
So there you have it, where I live it never happens

*adds additional POI and puts broken fridge on back seat*


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:12 am
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Is this a "southren" phenomenon

My photo was from the Newcastle area, so not [i]very[/i] southern.

Mind you I saw plenty of fly-tipping when I lived in Glasgow and Edinburgh too, so maybe you're just lucky or you don't ride places where they tend to tip?


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:12 am
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[i]So there you have it, where I live it never happens[/i]

Hmm, this was on the South Downs. 5 minutes ride from the very South Downs Way, in fact.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:27 am
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tbh I see very little in the North - I can only think of one in the last few years tbh and it was a little smaller than the Dez B example

Thankfully we have acres and acres of wasteland [ brown field sites] for them to dump on rather than drive into the few areas of scenery we have to dump.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:29 am
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Anyone not transporting their own waste needs a waste transport licence or something similar in name, and an id card, they can be stoped by vosa and vehicle impounded if they dont have the correct paperwork.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:30 am
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tbh I see very little in the North
bloody posh side of rivi obviously, I've been seeing more and more of it, 1 on this morning's commute infact ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:36 am
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probably just more likely to be seen by teenage stoners in their corsas on my side ๐Ÿ˜‰

I can only think of one pile and that is within the last few months so it is rare thankfully


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:39 am
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It's really dumb dumping stuff like that.

Everyone knows the proper way to dump it is into a canal or river.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:40 am
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tbh I see very little in the North

These northern types are very good at mend and make do, they need to save their pennies.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:48 am
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DezB - Member
So there you have it, where I live it never happens

Hmm, this was on the South Downs. 5 minutes ride from the very South Downs Way, in fact.

Your part of the Downs are clearly full of pikies then ๐Ÿ˜†

Don't give them my bit hey.. ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 11:54 am
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it always seems to be [s]darn saarth[/s] dyne sythe

FTFY

Dumped the old one... ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 12:31 pm
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Do we need to email P Green and let him know the good news? i.e. his rubbish has been found and it's ready for him to collect?


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 12:43 pm
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Dez, email the Portsmouth Evening News they love this sort of stuff.
Probably get a better response then from the council alone.


 
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It's really dumb dumping stuff like that.

Everyone knows the proper way to dump it is into a canal or river.

๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 3:03 pm
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Some twunt recently dumped a load of asbestos roofing sheets at the bottom car park on Box Hill ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 3:18 pm
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"ernie_lynch - Member
We caught the same PVC windows guy twice! made him come back and clear up photographed him doing it.
So it was the contractor then not the home owner."

Ok ernie here we go, the contractor is the Home owners agent, acting on their behalf - Contract- contractor. If it comes off your house and you have paid someone to dispose of it, you still have to ensure they do it legally.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 7:34 pm
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By following them to the tip?

At some point it has to be assumed you made reasonable checks and the person who did it was the one who broke the law.
IANAL - link to law as well please

Interested as that seems harsh


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 7:37 pm
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Sometimes reporting it does get results.

A load of kitchen waste got dumped in a disused quarry on a neighbour's farm.

He called out Environmental Health and they traced it to a curry shop in a nearby town and fined them.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 7:50 pm
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Tony Martin for PM.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 7:54 pm
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If it comes off your house and you have paid someone to dispose of it, you still have to ensure they do it legally.

In this particular case the stuff we're talking about it (at least most of it) doesn't appear to have been removed from the client's home, it's left over, eg, the contractor bought too much or whatever. Not something you would expect the client to have any control over.

But I get your point.

BTW you did say that it was the contractor not the home owner that you collared :

We caught the same PVC windows guy twice! made him come back and clear up photographed him doing it.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 7:56 pm
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Tony Martin for PM.

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Posted : 11/08/2014 7:58 pm
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It was still waste from a customers job.

"BTW you did say that it was the contractor not the home owner that you collared "

no I didn't, I said it became a top tipping site, we caught lots of people. including the same contractor twice. By identifying the address of the home owners (delivery address's on the PVC window packaging) telling them we would pursue them and they got on to their contractor who they had paid to dispose of the waste, to collect the waste. The same guy in two cases about 10 days apart.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 8:39 pm
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its a probkem round rivvy couches, fridges and general shite. the iinlaws get it bad in radcliffe as they live on an old farm.

I was upset though at landegla with the amount of discarded water bottles and food wrappers. And that in a way is worse.

Poor splelling any grammar as on cheapo tablet


 
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Poor splelling any grammar as on cheapo tablet

You want to get yourself to a better pharmacy.


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 9:19 pm
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DezB - was that on the RUP up to the back of Charlton from New Barn Lane?


 
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As previously stated it is the responsibilty of the waste (of whatever type ) generator to ensure the waste is desposed of legally.
If your employing someone to do this on your behalf, you need to ensured they're licenced to do so - ask for a copy of it?
Then once they've deposed of it legally they've have a waste transfer note, get a copy of this also - without these YOU'LL be liable ....!


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 9:37 pm
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[i]DezB - was that on the RUP up to the back of Charlton from New Barn Lane?
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I think it was Green Lane by the cottage? Might've been though... why? is it a regular thing?


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 9:39 pm
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its a probkem round rivvy couches, fridges and general shite.

Which is odd as most councils (IME) do kerbside pickups of old white goods etc


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 9:42 pm
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Ahh, I know where you are. Only a few minutes from my house too.

Charlton is a regular dumping ground as well, similar crap dumped too


 
Posted : 11/08/2014 9:46 pm
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There's regular fly tipping spots round my local trails just outside Bolton, they have been like that for years.

Just inside neighbouring Wigan councils area on one of my regular rides, they have put a big gate up and it's locked permently. They had a massive problem in that location and tried CCTV etc but they just came along on false plates and couldn't be traced.

The gate is a bit of a PITA for the 2 houses on that back road, but at least they can get in and out now without coming round the bend and crashing into a dumped Fridge / Sofa.


 
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You're suggesting that it's grammatically incorrect to begin a sentence with and, right?

Nope, it's perfectly acceptable.


 
Posted : 12/08/2014 10:59 pm
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I see all sorts of crap dumped around North Wilts, old PC's, sofas, lots of tree cuttings...
One of the oddest was a huge pile, possibly fifteen or twenty, of those great big orange gas cylinders, by the side of the Ridgeway, must have been a couple of hundred metres from the nearest road.
Why dump those? Surely they at least carry a deposit, or can be returned and exchanged for full ones?
The logic behind dumping a large pile of steel with at least a decent scrap value escapes me.
And who would be most likely to be dumping four foot long gas cylinders?


 
Posted : 12/08/2014 11:27 pm
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Its not just southern.

Any quiet lane or dead end will have stuff dumped in it. Or a street in Glasgow. Govanhill had a tyre dumper recently. Not exactly off the beaten path.

The Highlands are also becoming a shit tip as well. Seen glen etive recently? Make ye greet.


 
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