'arguably' best driver
whats the argument he's won the most so is the best. its the only real measurable.
i do think he will happily step aside for massa on his return though. massa is a class act and fully deserving of his seat.
Should be interesting, can't wait, at least shuey is a better driver than massa in the wet
yeah the german was immense in the rain, thats when you new it wasn't just the car. still it ain't moto gp.
moe_szyslak Agree
the-muffin-man Agree
Hamilton raced against Alonso who beat Schu. I wonder what this will do to Hamilton's motivation...
...bet Jenson is kacking himself though!!
I doubt it - no one is more likely to take points away from Vettel or Weber than Schumacher (assuming Ferrari can get their act together)!
thing is he has nothing to win or lose, championship is braun or redbull he may only be in the car for couple of races, the biggest loser could well be kimi. at least it will liven the field up the big names will certainly be braking later.
double post oh the shame
the biggest loser could well be kimi
It will be interesting to see how a 40 year old who hasn't raced for three years compares to Kimi. I think he may suddenly look quite ordinary.
I suspect Braun are probably quite pleased. Someone else to take points away from Red Bull.
I think he may suddenly look quite ordinary.
kimi or the stig? 😉
kimi or the stig?
Kimi
But that's a good point. He'll have to fit the races round filming for TG.
If memory serves, Schumy was "retired" from Ferrari to make way for Kimi. Should make for an interesting partnership. I wonder if they'll send Schumi out on wets when it's not raining !!!
Yes Yes
Just seen on BBC News
Schumacher is back
Go Schumacher
I Hope he shows everyone how its done!!
Driving Legend!!
Driving bellend more like.
I dont follow F1 because its a bit dull, but I'm guessing Hamilton hasn't raced against him in an F1 car? I imagine Hamilton will be really looking forward to it because its not every day you get to race against one of the all time best F1 drivers.
Personally I hope he does ok. Its great to see a 40 year old bloke getting back in to the pinacle of a sport.
It's only car driving for god's sake. Turn the wheel, push the pedals. If only those incredibly gifted engineers and entrepeneurs could turn their skills to windmill design, or solar power transfer, instead of the sideshow that is F1, then we might delay the inevitable for a few extra centuries.
Rossi, now THERE's someone to look up to.
OP why the Lance-hater comparison? Lance was on the podium after 3 grueling weeks. You think Schu will actually win a race? 😆
You do realise that theres a young lad called Hamilton who beat Alonso in his rookie year don't you?
If you want some one to look up to in motor sport then loob at Sebastian Loeb and his recored in rallying.
Sebastian Loeb in a F1 car....I reckon with his driving style he would actually be bloody good as well.
I'm not a Schumacher fan but I'm really excited about this. I know he wont be up top full race fitness but he will probably be fitter than most of the field. It will be good to see him up against Lewis and hopefully Button will have his car working for the next race, not to mention Vettal. Kimi is an interesting one I wonder if this will make him faster or slower. I think he might have a point to prove.
I_Ache - totally agree. I think I'll skip riding to watch this race.. 😀
Bestmates a lifelong hun-fan. My mobile will be on hand to send texts of scorn his way.....
MisterCrud - MemberIt's only car driving for god's sake. Turn the wheel, push the pedals. If only those incredibly gifted engineers and entrepeneurs could turn their skills to windmill design, or solar power transfer, instead of the sideshow that is F1, then we might delay the inevitable for a few extra centuries.
Rossi, now THERE's someone to look up to.
ha ha- only car driving!!! the G forces generated when conering will reduce most people to a gibbering wreck within 10 laps as your neck muscles cannot cope and essentially collapse!
Also all the adjustments that are done lap after lap and mind bending speeds while talking to the pit, keeping car on the limits of adhesion, try not to brake too late, managing the 700 odd bhp without spinning out the rear wheels and managing the heat in the cockpit.
JUST car driving eh? ok mate...
BTW Rossi is incredible as is Loeb - I would love to see all 3 of them in a head to head race where they tried each others disciplines and then see who is best, would be a good ROC showdown!
This is brilliant news. I was really hoping this would happen but didn't think it would. I can't wait to see how Schumacher performs. Kimi showed last weekend that the car has got better so now with someone in it who can drive Ferrari might get some good results. Hamilton will be loving this, as I'm sure Vettel will be too.
Can't wait 3 weeks...
BTW Rossi is incredible as is Loeb - I would love to see all 3 of them in a head to head race where they tried each others disciplines and then see who is best, would be a good ROC showdown!
Race of champions? I think there have been a few goes at this - getting drivers and riders from each discipline to race against each other in different disciplines. IIRC rally drivers usually win
Rossi was within a second or two of Schumachers times in a Ferrari F! car and is pretty handy in a rally car, Schumacher is an also ran in bike racing.
Loeb the best, Rossi second, Schumacher third as all round drivers
just waiting on a few people to come and do a "well, we was wrong innit"
race of champions? I think there have been a few goes at this - getting drivers and riders from each discipline to race against each other in different disciplines. IIRC rally drivers usually win
Rossi was within a second or two of Schumachers times in a Ferrari F! car and is pretty handy in a rally car, Schumacher is an also ran in bike racing.
These 'races of champions' normally take place in cars. If it was a true multi discipline race then I would probably expect the bike rider to cream the rest of the field, especially with his experience in all three vehicle types.
Brundle: "So what upgrades have you brought to Valencia?
Brawn: "New aero package for the car"
McLaren: "Improved engine"
Ferrari: "Schumacher"
It's only car driving for god's sake. Turn the wheel, push the pedals. If only those incredibly gifted engineers and entrepeneurs could turn their skills to windmill design, or solar power transfer, instead of the sideshow that is F1, then we might delay the inevitable for a few extra centuries.
Rossi, now THERE's someone to look up to
Oh, I hope that's meant to be ironic.....?
Or, put it another way...."it's only bike riding for gods sake. Turn the handle bars, twist the throttle..."
Rossi described his cornering technique in a recent motorcycle magazine.
At the apex - maximum lean, knee down, throttle wide open ( traction control)
Bike starts to run wide - a bit of rear brake to transfer weight to the front wheel. Loaded front wheel develops chatter. A bit of front brake to damp the chatter.
So thats knee on the ground at 70+mph, full throttle and both brakes on on two contact patches the size of the palm of your hand.
OP why the Lance-hater comparison? Lance was on the podium after 3 grueling weeks. You think Schu will actually win a race?
sorry that was not lance hating just there are similarities between the two and i was surprised lance didn't go for/get a win. Perhaps next year.
yeah i think if schumacher sees the season out he will get a win. Thats besides the point this is the best thing in F! since hamilton stuck one on alonso in his rookie year.
Loeb the best, Rossi second, Schumacher third as all round drivers
i always find these comparisons unfair its like maradona, best, pele, zidane, cruyff all amazing.
It's actually quite heartening to see that experience is being valued in two sports that usually favour youth and skill over all else (cycling and motorsport)!
Assuming Schumacher is passed as fit to race I'm actually very intrigued to see how he compares to the current drivers. The thing is that F1 has changed a lot since he retired and a lot of the personalities have changed in Ferrari itself. The most obvious one being Brawn leaving.
I wonder who will punt who off into the gravel if Hamilton, Alonso and Schumacher all arrive at the same corner at the same time though;-)
I wonder who will punt who off into the gravel if Hamilton, Alonso and Schumacher all arrive at the same corner at the same time though;-)
Hamilton in the gravel (with a drive through penality)
Alonso also with a drive through penality just for being next to schu
and Schu track position with no penalties.
CVC Partners demand this to help them pay off their debts you see..
I'm not certain that you even have to be that fit to race F1, Kimi is a proper lush, Barracello looks tubby and is a spitting image of the guy in city kebab in Cardiff and i've kicked Mark Webbers ass in an MTB race although that was a few years ago, and he looked like he was going to puke. Also i reckon i'd easily be able to win a fight with Button, he looks a right wimp.
What is race fittness?
Errrmmm - there are many sorts of fitness. They need good muscle strength and enduramce to cope with the G forces and good aerobic fitness to deal with the fact their herat rates will be high for two hours.
This does not mean they need to be very lean with low body fat % or be good at cycling - not the same at all.
Compare the build of swimmers to that of TDF cyclists - both fit but the % body fat and body shape will be very different
