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...and Martin Amis dead. Is this the end of public intellectual discourse in the UK?

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/may/20/phillip-schofield-to-leave-this-morning-with-immediate-effect-holly-willoughby


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 12:40 am
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It would appear the Schofield rumours are true!


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 1:30 am
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Pete Brown also dead.
Public intellectual discourse has been declining for decades; the pace of decline has increased markedly in recent years.


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 1:33 am
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This will only matter to my MIL, mainly because she's held hostage by a failing respiratory system and hence watching shite on telly forms a more significant part of her day...

Any time this sort of vapid shit crops up I just point out there's still War in Ukraine, we still have a widening poverty gap and climate change is cranking up nicely... So why would anyone sane care if Gordon the Gopher's former partner was still on the telly or not?


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 1:57 am
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Who?


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 2:03 am
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I'm confused. He's leaving a job role of 20+ years because he allegedly got preferential treatment in a queue at a funeral?


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 2:29 am
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I’m confused. He’s leaving a job role of 20+ years because he allegedly got preferential treatment in a queue at a funeral?

Beeb are suggesting they fell out when he didn't warn Holly in advance about his brothers court case.

Anyway, if she needs consoling about her loss, she can DM me here


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 8:51 am
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Is this the end of public intellectual discourse in the UK?

No


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 8:54 am
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I'd missed the Martin Amis thing. I liked his writing (as I did his dad's). Not sure he was a particularly nice chap, but I mourn his passing as someone whose work touched my life. I doubt I will be able to say the same of Schofield or Willoughby, but I suppose I may have a period of daytime tv watching some time down the road so who knows?


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 9:57 am
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It's a real shame, I'll miss him. His early work in the 80s really captured the zeitgeist and contradictions of the era. He was a colossus of the time. His later work was less substantial and more provocative, but it still had merit.

It's a shame about Martin Amis, too.


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 11:12 am
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It’s a real shame, I’ll miss him. His early work in the 80s really captured the zeitgeist and contradictions of the era. He was a colossus of the time. His later work was less substantial and more provocative, but it still had merit.

You will be relieved to know that he will still be on the telly and working for ITV, presenting awards etc, just not on This Morning.


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 11:26 am
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You could be right about mainstream British culture; a thread about This Morning, with Martin Amis' death tacked on.
The Moronic Inferno is almost a truism.


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 12:00 pm
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@ernielynch this needs more likes


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 12:11 pm
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Phil kicked off This Morning

ZZZzzzzz.......


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 12:19 pm
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You could be right about mainstream British culture; a thread about This Morning, with Martin Amis’ death tacked on.
The Moronic Inferno is almost a truism.

Nah, it's snobbery.

Almost everyone in the country will have heard of Philip Schofield and would recognise him instantly. Would you say the same is true of Martin Amis? Someone who's been on TV nearly every day for, what, 40 years vs someone best known for smoking fags and writing a couple of award-winning books in the 1980s?


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 1:05 pm
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vs someone best known for smoking fags and writing a couple of award-winning books in the 1980s?

You missed the expensive dental work, but otherwise there's the obit...

(I think I've read all his novels plus some of his other writing. Jesus, Experience was published in 2000! Here he is...

... which seems appropriate given what did for him. Anyway for all his de haut en bas manner (Self) an absolute formative author for me. And Inside Story is right up these, and also gives a detailed account of death from oesophageal cancer. Those other folks sound interesting too.)


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 1:25 pm
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Almost everyone in the country will have heard of Philip Schofield and would recognise him instantly.

It's those We Buy Any Car adverts innit?


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 1:29 pm
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"Is this the end of public intellectual discourse in the UK?"

Nadine Dorries still has a show on GB News.


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 1:53 pm
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Beeb are suggesting they fell out when he didn’t warn Holly in advance about his brothers court case.

Right - save me from diving into the DM and OK magazine and the night terrors that might follow by giving me a synopsis......

I'm 50 odd and have a job so it's safe to say I lost touch with what Phil's been up to since the days when he had his hand up a gofer's arse in a broom cupboard. But clearly I know who he is and his present troubles have been widely enough reported that I know it's a thing.

But is that it? He didn't give his co star enough of a heads up about his brother's imminent court case? That feels a bit thin grounds to trash what by all accounts was a successful (and lucrative) working relationship.


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 2:13 pm
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Nah, it’s snobbery

Yeah, no. I'm referencing a collection of essays warning readers of the vapid nature of celebrity, popularity, consumerism & fame.

Anyways, Gordon the Gopher was great.


 
Posted : 21/05/2023 3:52 pm