SAS Rogue Heroes

The boathouse door…….and what colour to paint it? Is that covered in Series2?

There's a boathouse?

Is that covered in Series2?

Seeing as they didn't move to Hereford until 1960, it's doubtful.

In Hear-ford apparently.

Edited to add - slow forum killed my joke.

Any references to "flatpacking"?

Any references to “flatpacking”?

No, although IKEA was established in 1943 their furniture didn't go global until 1963 so doubt the term entered the English speaking lexicon that early.

After reading those reports it is inconceivable to think there could be any reason he wasnt awarded the VC, or for that matter fkkking knighted and offered a country estate. Something that appeared to be the thing for other leaders in other earlier campaigns. When you think about Lord Cardigan, Lord such and such, all immensely rewarded for their efforts and victories.

A VC citation signed off by Mont

And while I’m being a turbo-nerd, here are the DSO citations:

Bloody hell.
*doffs cap*

Really enjoyed the first season but, after flogging through the first four episodes of this one I'm oot. Totally jumped the shark. Even the music choices are poor/irrelevant.

Yeah I'm a bit 'meh' on this second series, I don't know if it's Paddy Maines constant lip curled shouting at everyone, Dominic West not having a crack at Eve Mansour (or certainly on camera). I know it won't have band of brothers budget but it feels a bit 'small' and almost doesn't do their exploits any favours whereas the first series action sequences felt 'bigger'.

Also a bit slow in places - David Stirling incarceration dragged. I fast forwarded quite a bit.

Yep I keep dropping off in it. J O'C is just irritating me.

Connor Swindells sorely missed in action here

Glad it isn't just me, I've found series 2 to be tedious.

I find it entertaining but silly. It seems about as realistic as Lioness to me.

Last ep shown on BBC about holding the Italian village while the tanks rolled in was absolutely superb. Epic TV.

After reading those reports it is inconceivable to think there could be any reason he wasnt awarded the VC

Second guessing why certain medals weren't handed out 80 years down the line, is probs a waste of time. The soldier in the jeep alongside Maine wasn't cited for any medal at all, let alone a VC. It's hardly a rigorous exercise, I doubt there was any foul play or nefarious intent.

Second guessing why certain medals weren’t handed out 80 years down the line, is probs a waste of time. The soldier in the jeep alongside Maine wasn’t cited for any medal at all, let alone a VC. It’s hardly a rigorous exercise, I doubt there was any foul play or nefarious intent.

There was a pilot named Adrian Warburton who got a DSO and bar and DFC and 2 bars, but no VC. If you read up on him he did some proper crazy stuff in full view of the enemy.

He was quite happy with this at the time, his logic being that the VC was usually awarded posthumously.

Guy Gibson got one for the Dams Raid. Nobody else in his aircraft did.

If Paddy had died in that Jeep would there have been a different outcome?

Was about to suggest he did not get it as he survived.
Anders Lassen got a VC after he died in Italy.

99p for the Kindle biography of Paddy Mayne today

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paddy-Mayne-Col-Blair-Regiment-ebook/dp/B0078XH7L2

I'm watching s2 on iplayer.  Enjoying it, but would be way better without Jack O'connell quoting poetry in a very unconvincing Irish accent every five minutes.

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I’m watching s2 on iplayer.  Enjoying it, but would be way better without Jack O’connell quoting poetry in a very unconvincing Irish accent every five minutes.

There was too  much of him, yeah. Made it all less enjoyable

The best biography I've read recently

Isn't exactly a glowing review is it!?

Yeah watching S2.

The music is great but almost all of the rest of it makes me feel uneasy.

That Irish leader guy is really effin annoying.

Not into it particularly.

Isn’t exactly a glowing review is it!?

Lol! Does anyone take notice of the blurb crap they splash on book covers? I know I don't

Lol! Does anyone take notice of the blurb crap they splash on book covers? I know I don’t

From what I recall, the blurb in the issue of The Wasp Factory I read quoted a reviewer describing it as "a work of unparalleled depravity." I was sold.

It's come to me who the Irish guy reminds me of when he talks. (Not his accent obvs, but his delivery.)

Mayor Quimby off the Simpsons 🙂

I find it entertaining but silly. It seems about as realistic as Lioness to me.

It's all a bit...

Blagged a lift from an orienteering event back to Hereford.  Military landrover.  There was a catch - driver was not going to stop outside the station if the lights were green.  Yes I was expected to and did jump. Epic trolling.  He may of course been up at Marden but I think that had closed by then.

I love my military history and a good 2nd World War yarn.

However, this is unwatchable. Paddy Mayne was from a wealthy background, he wouldn't speak like someone from the Shankill Road.

The soundtrack is just daft.

Off the hype I sat through all six episodes of the latest series last night.

Was a bit of a slog.

4/10

We jumped from an enjoyable dramatised military history in Series 1 to a self-indulgent drama which happened to be set in WWII in Series 2.  Rather worryingly the ending points to a writer who thinks he’s owed Series 3.

Paddy Mayne was from a wealthy background, he wouldn’t speak like someone from the Shankill Road.

Indeed he wouldn’t have. Jack O’Connell also doesn’t speak like someone from the Shankill

To go against the flow what, we enjoyed season 2. Knowing it's the same team that makes Peaky Blinders, you know what you're in for and, if that's what you like, then it's basically more of the same in Rogue Heroes. Plenty of books & documentaries on the SAS for those who want the true history

Knowing it’s the same team that makes Peaky Blinders, you know what you’re in for

Must be why I wasn't keen.

I've just waded through the Korea, Vietnam and SAS books by Hamish Ross. Interesting, but bloody hell, I had to keep notes to remember who the players were. The books to me seem to have a very confusing style; jumping between time lines, campaigns and characters. Must be what they refer to as the fog of war. Hard work but very sobering.

Ignore that...different author but similar styles.

BBC News - SAS Rogue Heroes: Gentleman Jim was 'quiet but deadly'
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98yger1emdo

I just read that article - amazing brave men. But that hat.....

I just read that article – amazing brave men. But that hat…..

I don't suppose many people laughed at it more than once 🙂

WW2 era head dress (berets) were something to behold. Although you still do see the occasional horror that requires gripping.

I don’t suppose many people laughed at it more than once

I remember from my cadet days that the capbadge is supposed to be aligned to the outside half of the left eye.

I suspect anyone commenting on Jim's beret may have found find their left eye socket aligned broadly with their ear, making the orientation of his broadly correct.

They'd also possibly find their nose aligned with their right cheek, and their teeth aligned with the floor.

@relapsed_mandalorian Is wearing a new beret in the shower to make it shrink still a thing?

@theotherjonv Wasn’t there a subplot in S1 about headgear related fights?

They lost me when they walked from sea level up to the top of Etna and back in a day. Over 3000m of ascent and back down?

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@relapsed_mandalorian Is wearing a new beret in the shower to make it shrink still a thing?

Sort of, not my preferred option mind. The key to shrinking is the soaking in very hot and then plunging into very cold water, which contract these wool and allows it to be shaped.

Wring it out, shake out the creases then plonk it in yer bonce and shape it. I used to take it off carefully and put it on a radiator or in a drying room to dry.

Some opt to remove the cotton liner for tighter lines and a sharper shape.

Some opt to remove the cotton liner for tighter lines and a sharper shape.

Such behaviour in my battalion would have found you outside the Guard room at 1800 and 2200 and being billed for a new beret  🙂

Just got through episode 4. Does it get better???
I want to like it but it's going downhill.

I'll stick with it, but don't want to get my hopes up for an improvement that doesnt happen.

IMO no it doesn’t get better. I really struggled to get through this season.