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which began investigating him in September 2023 after a range of allegations.
About effing time.
Blimey, you're not kidding, how could the investigation take that long, bearing in mind that it wasn't a complex fraud or whatever case? It hardly inspires confidence in our judicial system ffs.
I am also surprised that the thread is still open, doesn't the 12 month inactivity rule apply anymore?
Edited, for some reason I couldn't see any recent replies.
I am also surprised that the thread is still open, doesn't the 12 month inactivity rule apply anymore?
As was I. Seemingly not.
In any case, on the previous forum the Moderators had the ability to open tombstoned threads on request. I assume they still have that privilege (it'd be odd if they didn't).
About time. Good riddance.
how could the investigation take that long, bearing in mind that it wasn't a complex fraud or whatever case? It hardly inspires confidence in our judicial system ffs.
Fraud involves financial transactions which are relatively easy to research; with sexual abuse and rape, it most often involves one person’s word against the other, with little to no hard evidence.
with sexual abuse and rape, it most often involves one person’s word against the other, with little to no hard evidence.
I get that but why the extended timescale? Presumably if there is little or no evidence there isn't a great deal to investigate?
Aren't sex crimes the crimes which people are most reluctant to report? Dragging out the investigation over a very long period of time doesn't sound likely to encourage people to report them.
Obviously there is likely to be a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why it appears to have taken such a long time but it does seem strange.
Potentially wanted further victims to come forward to bolster the prosecution
Obviously there is likely to be a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why it appears to have taken such a long time but it does seem strange.
The Secret Barrister's books will explain it quite clearly. The whole system is ****ed.
with sexual abuse and rape, it most often involves one person’s word against the other, with little to no hard evidence.
Obviously there is likely to be a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why it appears to have taken such a long time but it does seem strange.
The thing here is, leaving behind the problem of "who would believe a girl over a media superstar,"
One person reporting it is little more than he said she said, which is in part why such crimes are poorly reported. Multiple people independently reporting exactly reporting the same pattern of behaviour is far more damning, but that takes time to amass evidence. "Me too" is a thing also, further victims feel empowered to come forward.
That's what they said about Alec Salmond!That was a load of rubbish as well.
Its always the ones you least expect...
"who would believe a girl over a media superstar,"
Checks who the media superstar is..
Raises hand..
Up to jury to decide if he's a sex offender or not. Regardless of the outcome he'll always be a horrible little xxxx in my book
Blimey, you're not kidding, how could the investigation take that long, bearing in mind that it wasn't a complex fraud or whatever case? It hardly inspires confidence in our judicial system ffs.
Thorough investigation given who is involved so likely to be experienced detectives, they will have their ongoing case-load to manage as well, examination of phones for location, texts etc around times of incidents, witnesses being chased up, accounts verified and then a series of checks before charging and it’s all quite historic (afaik) so that also slows things up.
And the criminal justice system is fubare’ed (mainly that).
Checks who the media superstar is..
Raises hand..
Yeah.
Point is though, I'm not talking about the general public. Rather, whether right or wrong, this is a common mindset of victims. Indeed, it's a mindset reinforced by the attackers, "you can't tell anyone, they won't believe you." So many people said variations of this on the Savile investigation.
Aside from those who claim they "always knew" (which with hindsight may be more than actually credible), Savile was a national treasure. Did loads of work for charity, fundraisers, patron of a hospital, popular Radio 1 disc jockey, host of TotP, had a prime-time TV show making little kids' dreams come true... who's going to believe little Jenny when she says he abused her? Moreover, how is little Jenny going to expect anyone to take her seriously? The brave few who did come forward were dismissed. It was only through sheer weight of numbers (and after Louis Theroux's crew 'accidentally' leaving a camera rolling) that it all came out in the wash, by which time the rotten bastard was already dead.
And this isn't an isolated situation. Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Fred Talbot, Max Clifford, Bill Cosby, whatshisname Weinstein... The list goes on and on and on. Prince Andrew, allegedly, who's going to whistle-blow on royalty and be confident that they'll be taken seriously? When Brand goes to trial I'm fully expecting what we know (OK, suspect) today to be the tip of the iceberg.
False accusations are a problem. Ignoring real accusations is a bigger one.
Someone like Brand has the resources to engage shit-hot legal eagles. He has the platform (fame + social media grift) to attract more cash/support.
Shameful as it is, our legal system (and most legal systems) effectively constructs higher barriers of preparation (if not actual proof) for those with loadsamoney. Especially historic allegations.
It shouldn't be like this. But it is.
I wonder why now?
You know him personally do you tpbiker?
It's always the ones you most suspect
The Onion hits the spot again.
Nation Could Have Sworn Russell Brand Was Already Convicted Sex Offender
If you’ve not heard the Origin Story podcast episode about Brand it’s worth a listen as it goes through what an awful human being he is.
I wonder why now?
Why don't you tell us. I'm sure you have a wonderful conspiracy. Can we play bingo? I've got WEF, Bilderberg Group, George Soros and Big Pharma on my card🙄
Double post
how none of this is a surprise.
I'm sure some high profile comedians have been doing bits about it for years. Never naming him, but it was an open secret
PODCASTS.APPLE.COM He saw through all the COVID lies unlike the folks in here
He saw through all the COVID lies unlike the folks in here
Still waiting for all the haters in here to apologies for there part in the Alec Salmond witch hunt.The guy died not to long after his acquittal.
Still waiting for all the haters in here to apologies for there part in the Alec Salmond witch hunt.The guy died not to long after his acquittal.
Still waiting for all the haters in here to apologies for there part in the Alec Salmond witch hunt.The guy died not to long after his acquittal.
Still waiting for all the haters in here to apologies for there part in the Alec Salmond witch hunt.The guy died not to long after his acquittal.
Still waiting for all the haters in here to apologies for there part in the Alec Salmond witch hunt.The guy died not to long after his acquittal.
Still waiting for all the haters on here to apologies for there part in the Alec Salmond witch hunt.The guy died not to long after his acquittal.
He saw through all the COVID lies unlike the folks in here
i always go to rapist celebrity born again Christians for my epidemiology advice
everyone knows that hosting the big brother talk show gives upu an insight into novel global pandemics 😂😂
How is he a rapist celebrity?You don't have a single shred if evidence to prove that.
that's a fair point
if he was a celebrity he'd still be on TV, instead of grifting off the terminally gullible on YouTube
You watch him do you Kimbers?You seem to know all about his channel.Unless that's another point your making without any knowledge
You watch him do you Kimbers?You seem to know all about his channel.Unless that's another point your making without any knowledge
Repeat
Fine work, kimbers!
Delete
oh dear your not admitting that you are one of his marks?
he was a self confessed drug addict at the time, how can he say for sure what he got up to?
I'm sure plenty of others have said it but i hope they throw the booky wooky at the rapist scumbag
How is he a rapist celebrity?You don't have a single shred if evidence to prove that.
Enough to charge him. He is obviously a wrong un. Utter scumbag easily recognised as such years ago.
Still waiting for all the haters on here to apologies for there part in the Alec Salmond witch hunt.The guy died not to long after his acquittal.
Groper by his own admissions in court. Sexual assaults are very hard to prove in court. It was always a thin case but in the atmosphere of the time he had to be prosecuted and his own admissions in court painted him in a poor light indeed.
He saw through all the COVID lies unlike the folks in here
i always go to rapist celebrity born again Christians for my epidemiology advice
everyone knows that hosting the big brother talk show gives you an insight into novel global pandemics 😂😂
👌🏻👏🏻🎩👍🏼🤣
“monkeycmonkeydo” is, I feel, an appropriate username, given the context…
If you’ve not heard the Origin Story podcast episode about Brand it’s worth a listen as it goes through what an awful human being he is.
I listened to it on this recommendation. Remarkable stuff, he is a truly grim person on so many levels.
In the podcast they mentioned that Brand had hosted Neil Oliver on his own podcast. I couldn't resist a listen, after all, how bad could it be? So I went for it, I listened so you don't have to.
It was worse, so much worse than I thought possible. Incoherent, angry, nonsensical, conspiratorial ramblings of complete melts. I won't try to describe the actual content but it was staggering in its stupidity, paranoia, lack of focus, self promotion and sheer insanity. Both of them have the veneer of being eloquent but when you actually listen beyond the big words and passionate voice, its complete and utter mindless, contradictory lunacy.
I find it staggering that companies pay to advertise on that pod, truly remarkable stuff.