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Folks,
I've been finishing dealing with a few customers today (spread up and down the land) and a couple have told me that they've heard from a friend of a friend that the word on the street type thing was that BJ is to throw in the towel in the new year.
Has anyone else heard this?
It's a rumour that has been endlessly speculated upon for ages, de Pfeffel falls on his sword after taking us into a no dead Brexit and leaves the door open to one of several completely delightful and not at all incompetent candidates who don't lack ambition.
Personally, I'd have been happy for chaos with Ed Miliband.
I thought the only thing unknown about this was the actual date of departure?
I wonder which group in parliament would benefit from spreading that sort of rumour. Especially if Brexit wasn't going their way and their leaders now felt more confident under public scrutiny than they did over the summer.
None of us (unless we're Tory party members that is) will get any say in who inherits the top job. The contenders are a pretty weak bunch.
Raab
Pros: Erm
Cons: Thick and an idealogue
Patel
Pros: Erm
Cons: Thick and an idealogue
Gove
Pros: Erm
Cons: He's Gove
Sunak:
Pros: He's not Gove
Cons: He's an idealogue
Doing it now would only throw his successor under the bus too.
There will be an improvement in things at some point* (when we have some vacines and some food to eat, maybe in the spring) where he will tearfully resign and allow someone else to take the reins and heroicly lead us into recovery.
Remember that his hero and idol Sir Winston was fairly quick to depart following the end of the war, even as the victors we had suffered terribly and needed a scapegoat. He returned 5 years later...
*probably still worse than life pre 2016, but better than the last 12 months.
hoping for Sunak, praying it isnt Gove, sensible money is probably Raab.
EDIT - forgot about Priti, as the highest ranking woman there's merit to selecting her as a very obvious visual change to boris to help give the impression of a fresh start
It's been mooted for some time but I don't expect anybody really knows.
Not even tomhoward, believe it or not.
He looks pretty resigned and has certainly given up.
I have by 31st March as a banker bet.
The cowardly shit is going to deliver a No Deal for the disaster capitalist vultures, trouser a fortune to keep his coterie of exes and illegitimate offspring happy and walk off into the sunset.
And all because little Alexander's play at being a Churchill tribute act hasn't gone how he'd have liked it to. The Bullshit Bus is out of road and the driver is fleeing the scene before he is breathalysed.
**** him.
The nightmare is that we are going to get someone who is intentionally a nasty piece of work instead.
It would not surprise in the slightest if he Cameron'd out of number 10 on the 1st of Jan - job's done, payment is on the way, and he wants cuddles from Nanny as everyone's being simply beastly.
Remember that his hero and idol Sir Winston was fairly quick to depart following the end of the war, even as the victors we had suffered terribly and needed a scapegoat.
To be fair he fought a general election but lost it. It wasn't his choice to depart.
I can't wait to see the back of these.....it's been 3 terms of utter disaster.
This particular bunch of Tories have caused enormous amounts of damage to this country and should be held accountable.
I wouldn't like any of the above to stand in...in fact i couldnt tell you a single member of the current party that i think 'they're a capable person who knows their subject matter with some well thought out ideas!'.
Raab
Pros: Erm
Cons: Thick and an idealoguePatel
Pros: Erm
Cons: Thick and an idealogueGove
Pros: Erm
Cons: He’s GoveSunak:
Pros: He’s not Gove
Cons: He’s an idealogue
Hunt? Best of a bad bunch IMO. But you;re probably right, he's ruffled a lot of feathers chairing the health Select Committee.
This is a rumour on twitter - I guess the question is whether it's all from the same source of BS or not... it's not impossible though, he only wanted to be PM for his own glorification and when brexit is 'done' he can kid himself and his mates that he achieved something. He'll have a column in a newspaper writing racist jibes and loafing about.
A better rumour would be that he goes straight to Rehab.
He's not exactly going to want to spend more time with his family.
He’s not exactly going to want to spend more time with his family.
Which one?
A better rumour would be that he goes straight to Rehab.
Piffle paffle wiffle waffle er er er Churrrrchill er er Wiinston Churrrrchill er er piffle paffle er er he er would never have gone to rehab er NEVER. He was a er er True Brit er er...
Followed by him going into rehab on the sly and taking out a super injunction to prevent it being reported.
Hypocritical, fake, insubstantial piece of political flotsam.
He'll not be in the job much longer - but i can't see him going in Jan.
He's now tarnished with both Brexit and their appalling handling of COVID, and letting him go too soon just tarnishes his successor.
My guess is April/May time.
I'll be just as pleased to see the back of Matt Handcock and Gavin Williamson as whoever succeeds Boris will surely get rid of these two muppets to the back benches.
I reckon the Party will go for Sunak, as they believe the public feel he's done a good job through COVID and comes across as both educated & trust-worthy.
Whereas Boris is basically Trump with slightly better literacy skills.
Seeing as the Tory-loving press are turning on him right now I'd say it may not be under his control when he goes if he does any more damage.
Only way I could see him going in Jan is if he jumps before he's pushed.
The party won't get its shit together to force the matter by then.
IMO.
Definitely going, he'll take blame for Brexit and the shite handling of Covid.
January is a long way away.
Come January the only thing he will have in common with Churchill is 70,000 civilian deaths on his watch. And at least Churchill had the excuse of WW2.
The words frying pan and fire spring to mind. If he goes then the available options all seem worse.
There needs to be some sort of "three strikes and your out" deal here. If you can't manage to keep your party together for more than 12 consecutive months then let the other side have a go instead.
Whoever thought that letting journalists, PR people and fire place sales people run a country was good idea?*
* and, yes, I know the answer was "us".
I would suggest it's more wishful thinking. He knows his reputation is in the sewer, he'll want to dig himself out before he goes. So it will be the "men in suits" that will decide his fate
The parallels with the former chief constable of GMP are there to see
I thought the only thing unknown about this was the actual date of departure?
Yep, been talked about on here for months. The Tories need him to hang on a bit beyond January to take the blame.
Jeremy Hunt has been keeping out of the line of fire the last year or so, letting others get their hands dirty with Covid and Brexit
Gotta feel for the guy, he worked so hard to get the job and it probably didn't turn out to be all that he hoped.
I'd like a general election. The fixed term parliament act has been a total disaster for the country.
The fixed term parliament act has been
a total disastercompletely ignored for the country.
There has never really been a way to stop a government with a working majority having an election whenever the hell it wants, nor a way to make a government with a working majority to have an election when it doesn't want. If we don't have yet another early election again this term, it's because the Conservatives have an 80% majority, and don't want one. If/when they want one, they'll have one.
Sunak or Hunt would be my thoughts.
Sunak is the shiny new contender who saved us all with furlough and is the man of the people.
Hunt has at least talked some semblance of sense occasionally, though that's not a high bar.
Raad and Williamson will not come out of this well and I'm not sure even the Tory party are stupid enough to elect Patel.
Gove is an interesting one, you have to remember he doesn't need to fight an election for 4 years so popularity isn't important in the short to mid term. Gove would is not good in front of the public, but arguably doesn't need to be. A scary thought.
I think March time was in the plans but the way things have deteriorated in the last few days I suspect he’s been handed the whisky and the revolver this afternoon.
Priti please!
That would make me very, very happy.
the man of the people
Splutter!
I suppose you mean... "Wetherspoons would like you to think of him as a man of the people". Which is true enough.
Sunak clearly fancies it and did position himself well to begin with, but showed his true colours flip-flopping on furlough.
Not to mention that disasterous and facile "Eat Out To Help Out" bollocks.
He's just another sociopathic Tory **** IMO.
Bet Theresa May wishes she'd waited a few years now..
I think the next incumbent will want to hang fire until the vaccine is rolled out. The ideal time to take over would be as things start to improve. Ride a general feeling of positivity and hope.
That said they all stabbed each other in the back to lead us out of Europe so it's power at any cost for some of them.
In terms of rivalling Starmer at the next election Sunak would seem the obvious choice. But he's probably a bit tanned and I'm not sure Brexit Britain could bring themselves to vote for him.
I thought the only thing unknown about this was the actual date of departure?
He'll 'Get Brexit Done' as Dom made him promise, then he'll 'Do a Dave' and hang around for as long as that **** did after delivering the referendum
So, gone by January 2nd, leaving complete chaos in his wake
Somewhat unbelievably, as with the last two times, whoever follows him will be even worse
Sunak is probably richer than Donald Trump. Not really a man of the people.
I actually feel sorry for boris, got the job he always wanted, new baby, getting married next year.
But someone's got to take the responsibility for the void handling, he s been poor from day 1. Ironic really that domm Cummings got him in the job, and mainly responsible for his downfall.
Is Boris an alcoholic, no smoke without fire it's hinted at q a lot.
Poor guy looked knackered a month ago, better now but I thought he may resign on health grounds.
I actually feel sorry for boris
You really shouldn't. He got the job he felt entitled too as he felt it was his birthright
He was stratospherically useless at it on account of being a lazy, ****less pisshead who regarded his previous job of writing a newspaper column once a week as too much like hard work
He'll be gone in January to spend more time with his money
I should have put "man of the people" in inverted commas, it's how he tries to come across rather than how he is.
Realistically, it'll be Gove as that's what we deserve...
Realistically, it’ll be Gove as that’s what we deserve…
Haha, maybe we do.
Scarily, he'd probably do the best job.
Sunak is probably richer than Donald Trump. Not really a man of the people.
His wife’s family have the vast majority of it though.
