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Itoje is one the best locks in the world already. Just leave him there. Hask, Wood and The Fijian will do you fine.


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 10:50 pm
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Itoje is one the best locks in the world already. Just leave him there

True but it would be interesting to see what he could do at 6.

A lot of things he does as a lock - he can do from the back row as well. I wonder what else he might be able to do with a bit more freedom?


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 12:10 am
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Itoje is one the best locks in the world already. Just leave him there.

Absolutely right a_a. England has lots of back row specialists who are considerably more qualified at 6 than Itoge. He's an out-and-out lock.


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 12:12 am
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Not for long; he will be one of the best 6's soon. In other news, Underhill to Bath next year and Marler has a fracture to his leg.


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 7:16 am
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If you start ****ing about with positions he wont reach his potential.
Underhill hasnt had a lot of game time this season, has struggled to break into the team following his injury. Shame to see him go as he is only one injury away from starting and is a quaality player.....another 6.5 for England though


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 7:28 am
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Not for long; he will be one of the best 6's soon. In other news

Nah.


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 8:29 am
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Itoje already plays in both positions for his club so he's being mucked about already and it doesn't seem to be doing him any harm.

And nobody knows how good he could be there until he has a decent run at it, he has a lot of attributes needed for 6. Jones hasn't been shy on trying something and changing it quickly if it doesn't work. Can't see an issue with trying it if Robshaw out as we have great cover at lock but not so obvious at 6.

Who knows playing at 6 might improve him as a lock if he returns to that position?


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 8:39 am
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I know there is depth for England, but it's hard when you break up what has been a fairly settled unit.

The other issue is lack of game time for Hask, Kruis and Launchers before the 6N starts. Sarries have said that Kruis will be fit but won't play for them.

I'm guessing that Mullan will get a call up at LH given the injuries.

There's a fair chunk of the pack missing or missing game time.


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 10:05 am
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Can't see an issue with trying it if Robshaw out as we have great cover at lock but not so obvious at 6

You have loads of 6's its 7's you dont have.


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 12:15 pm
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You have loads of 6's its 7's you dont have.

True but EJ tends to mould the team's style of play around the resources at his disposal. Hence the use of 6s, 6.5s and 8s across the back row and his refusal to pick the likes of Kvesic at 7 if he doesn't deem them good enough.

Underhill to Bath next year

Underhill should be available for the tour of Argentina in the summer shouldn't he? Assuming he can get back into some sort of form by then.


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 1:30 pm
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Owen Williams to Glaws, then? Not chasing the red 10 jersey that hard, then?


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 1:36 pm
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BBC quoting Williams to Gloucester.

True about lots of 6's but not many proven at international level, whereas Itoje and the rest of the locks are all of international standard.


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 1:40 pm
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Was mid edit, Bear! 🙂


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 1:42 pm
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frees them up for Ford to Leicester then....


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 1:47 pm
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Warbs to stand down as Wales captain it seems

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/38583200

Move to France ?


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 2:09 pm
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Move to France ?

How did you get to that.
Walking before pushed would be my thoughts. If Faletau is fit for Italy he's unlikely to play.


 
Posted : 11/01/2017 2:44 pm
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Mr Barnes on head contact laws

https://twitter.com/RugbyTonight/status/819447647165628416


 
Posted : 12/01/2017 10:25 am
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Exeter have signed Kvesic. Will be interesting to see if they can sort out his deficiencies in open play etc. If you look at what happened to Waldron etc when they signed there, he could finally become the player that many people hoped he would be.


 
Posted : 12/01/2017 2:18 pm
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Will become an overweight bloater too?


 
Posted : 12/01/2017 9:57 pm
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Hmm. Armand is no slouch. I rate him higher than I do Kvesic.


 
Posted : 12/01/2017 10:30 pm
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Mr Barnes on head contact laws

Really good to see him doing this, comes across well.


 
Posted : 12/01/2017 10:56 pm
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Will become an overweight bloater too?

Ha ha. Despite that, he was always supposed to do really well in fitness tests etc. He certainly doesn't look like most modern players.


 
Posted : 13/01/2017 9:55 am
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Despite that, he was always supposed to do really well in fitness tests etc

Yeah right!! Good club player but would be blowing out of his arse after 20mins at international level.


 
Posted : 13/01/2017 10:11 am
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Really good to see him doing this, comes across well.

He's a barrister so he's always going to come across very well. He demonstrates a lot of common sense and a love for the game too - which is nice.


 
Posted : 13/01/2017 10:16 am
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He's a barrister so he's always going to come across very well.

Didn't know that, but based upon the many barristers I know and deal with I am not sure that is a given!


 
Posted : 13/01/2017 4:18 pm
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Yes, he is a barrister too. It's clever the way he can do one voice when he's refereeing rugby matches, then do that really silly one when he's doing the Rinder character.


 
Posted : 13/01/2017 4:22 pm
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He's a barrister

Awesome. I'll have a flat white!


 
Posted : 13/01/2017 4:36 pm
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Great start by Leinster and then Sexton taken out by Styne who gets a red. Hope Sexton is ok


 
Posted : 13/01/2017 9:21 pm
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I agree, that was a good interview with Barnes.


 
Posted : 13/01/2017 9:46 pm
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I'll have a flat white!

😆


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 10:34 am
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Enjoying Glasgow v Munster

Tight, feisty and well contested. Glasgow are nearly as cyclical as the All Blacks wit the late hits though. As a neutral, that makes me side with Munster (just)

Surprised C Murray has clocked someone yet. His attempt on Strauss was a bit half hearted 😉


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 7:49 pm
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Enjoying Glasgow v Munster

Tight, feisty and well contested. Glasgow are nearly as cyclical as the All Blacks wit the late hits though. As a neutral, that makes me side with Munster (just)

Surprised C Murray has clocked someone yet. His attempt on Strauss was a bit half hearted 😉


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 7:50 pm
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Not my type of game - too much niggle & "player refs" for me.


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 7:54 pm
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Bollocks. Game changed on a yellow card.


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 8:12 pm
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Definite yellow. Good finish.


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 8:15 pm
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Fun last 5 !!!

Red/TMO did a good job - and it was Hogg so that must have swayed them 😉


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 8:15 pm
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Murray gets the last laugh - karma

Fun to watch if not the best quality. Credit to both teams for efforts.


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 8:21 pm
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I thought the yellow card should have been a pen try too as the cover was only able to make the tackle due to the player going down from the high shot. Still it was a cracking try to finish it. Cant stand Munster normally but even I wouldnt begrudge them a win this season.


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 8:27 pm
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Shocking first half from Leicester in Paris - hard to see them coming back from 22 - 3 down!


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 9:38 pm
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As a Tigers fan, I'm hoping Munster beat Glasgow. Preferably without Glasgow getting a bonus point. Then IF Tigers get a win in Paris it leaves them with a slim chance of getting through.....

Then it's all set for a Munster v Leicester final, where we will bring Neil Back in as a specialist scrum coach!!!

Hmmm!! 🙄


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 9:47 pm
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Perhaps Munster might have had pen try but overall ref was excellent in a niggly game. Munster have a great chance for a home quarter but hard to see them go any further than semis even with my most red tinted specs on.

Murray needs to get used to that treatment, forwards need to protect him better at ruck time.


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 9:59 pm
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That's quite a poor effort from Leicester as Racing have been terrible this season.

Adam Jones, give us a smile mate 🙂

[url= http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/38625711 ]Adam Jones - Charity Mastermind[/url]


 
Posted : 14/01/2017 10:34 pm
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That weird! I posted a reply to THM's remark on Hogg by pointing out Murray is a bigger tool and it has gone...guess repeating it will get me a break?


 
Posted : 15/01/2017 6:19 am
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Racing have not been terrible - ~Glasgow played fantastically well to beat them home and away - some of the best rugby by a club team I have ever seen.


 
Posted : 15/01/2017 6:46 am
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What did you say? I didn't see it either....although I get the gist.


 
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