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Aa - he was the tackler - he can pick that one up. No ruck formed

well a froggy had formed a ruck and engaged a scot. I think the ref got it wrong. French missed a proper openside till Bonnaire came on and Szwareskis darts were awful. Hogg looks good, could be a very young lions back three next year.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 6:11 pm
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Posted : 26/02/2012 6:12 pm
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We need to look at how the French got quick ball and try and replicate that. Then we need to start supporting our runners when they do make a line break.

Keep the faith with the young uns and when they are settled blood some new ones too.

Try and build our squad up with the experience and flair.

French could be very good if they had to be. They were just good enough today but feel they could be much belter.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 6:15 pm
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Right gutted,and in Embra,last train is 10.30...TJ,what is your address in case I am to drunk to make it? 😈


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 6:21 pm
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how long do the French have to be consistently inconsistent and a lot of the time crap for before we can stop saying "I wonder which French team will show up today" or "the French should be brilliant".
they've been this way for a long spell now.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 6:23 pm
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Duckman - sofas your mate.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 7:21 pm
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Just rewatching the england game Parling and Botha are midgets. Is this the cause of the scrum and maul problems?


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 8:00 pm
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yes, now why not watch the Ireland match and try and pick fault with them instead.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 8:03 pm
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Brave effort by Scotland. However, being lucky losers isn't enough,

Sean Lamont ( a year ago!)
"I'm sick of it - I want to win something, I really do."

"I'm sick of having this year after year, valiant losers or whatever.

"We need to pull our fingers out, there's been too many years gone by where we've been also-rans. It's not good enough."


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 8:09 pm
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He's right, TJ.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 8:22 pm
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I also reckon Roberts did his knee on about 12 mins and was a passenger from then on.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 8:25 pm
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Throw this one in -

The scots props are too fat and unfit for 80mins of international rugby. That is why they really suffered in the last quarter and got penalised at every scrum / breakdown

Scots backs quite impressive - loads of line breaks but where was the confidence to support??


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 9:00 pm
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Very disappointed with Strettle's reaction, stands in very stark contrast to the way the welsh team as a whole reacted to "that" red card.

disappointed I missed the Scottish game now, but the weather was too good to stay indoors!


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 9:01 pm
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Will Greenwood ? @GreenwoodRugby
@Jamiehuwroberts Right shoulder go on that hit on tuilagi? Was a good pass and angle.

Jamie Roberts ? @Jamiehuwroberts
@GreenwoodRugby left knee first carry William...ice ice ice!!


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 9:05 pm
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Talltom - Props? its just they are not good enough - especially the bench.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 9:06 pm
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The floppy Jacobson was dire.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 9:12 pm
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Then we need to start supporting our runners when they do make a line break

Agreed, it's been terribly obvious these last two years for Scotland. Someone breaks through, and he's on his own. With other sides, particularly Wales, there's always someone on hand.

disappointed I missed the Scottish game now, but the weather was too good to stay indoors!

Likewise, I went riding and Mrs Grips did the garden. We were going to watch it on iPlayer but it's not there for some reason 🙁


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 10:19 pm
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Molgrips, my coaches always said, "One man on the shoulder, always" and it worked, we always expected a man to run, so there was always one on the shulder. Scotland need to work on that.


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 10:22 pm
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So

Robinson must go? duff selection yet again.

All you Philips fans - did you see Blairs display? thats how to be a SH. Shame he was a bit too quick for the rest of the team at times but he got the ball away quickly from the breakdown which is what is needed.


 
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I am not sure the SRU can afford to bin Robinson.

Anyway i think the players need to take alot of responsibility. As CFH said a basic is to have a man on the shoulder, these are professional players and yet they fail to support the ball carrier time after time it is a basic part of play.

I don't want to blame the ref but it was yet another poor ref performance of which there have been too many in this 6N already.

Like S Lamont, I am sick of this glorious failure p1sh. I think Robinson needs to be brave and call up a couple of youngsters for the remaining two games i would like to see Matt Scott play for one and i think if Blair is out he needs to consider Lawson at SH, Cuister was poor and unfortunatley Lawson was exposed defensively again and that needs addressed somehow, the Irish back row will run all over him.


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 11:45 am
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Thats why Robinson must go - he is far too conservative in his selection.

The backs from the first game should have been
Blair
Laidlaw
S lamont
M Scott
NDL / M Evans
L Jones
Hogg

With Ansbro / Grove/ Weir / Morrison as alternates

When he has been forced into playing the younger players they have shown why they should have been selected earlier. Tight margins yes - but the right selection would have made a difference I am sure

He keeps playing people on past reputation or because he is too conservative


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 11:50 am
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Who would you have replace Robinson?

I am pretty happy with the forwards, few front row issues this week, but i thought Barclay did well out of position and Rennie is getting better and better.

If all were fit i would have

Blair
Jackson
S Lamont
M Scott
Ansbro/Grove
M Evans
Hogg


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 12:08 pm
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Jackson? No way jose - Weir has been keeping him out of the Glasgow side even when fit.

Instead of Robinson? I would be looking for a young ambitious antipodean coach - or possibly Redpath.

Todd Blackadder would be my preferred choice -= played and coached in Scotland, doing good things with the canterbury crusaders. Doing well with Scotland would be his springboard into the all blacks job.

Scotland coach will never be a topjob. we either get the failures - Robinson, the second raters - Haddon / Williams or we could go for the young ambitious guys


 
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Doing well with Scotland would be his springboard into the all blacks job.

I reckon there might be another chap ahead of him in that queue..... Y Gat.


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 12:16 pm
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Aye - so we could have him for a few years maybe even thru the next WC


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 12:17 pm
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Want to bet it will be Bradley? I think he would do a job. Money is not the issue any more guys. Change for changes sake wouldn't work. At times,the patterns that Robinson wants are sublime when they work. However my worry has always been that there is no plan B


 
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I have watched Edinburgh a lot this year and Laidlaw has been very good but i think Jackson has the best all round game. Weir is probably the best tactically particularly in kicking terms but that is what benches are for so you can try and change games if necessary.

Blackadder would be a good choice, but not sure he would take the job, is Scotland even a step-up from the Crusaders at this time?


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 12:30 pm
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At times,the patterns that Robinson wants are sublime when they work. However my worry has always been that there is no plan B

Hopefully Scott Johnson may bring the Plan B and C will need to wait and see.


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 12:32 pm
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Duckman - I think as a coach Robinson is acceptable if conservative. A a selector tho he has made so many fundamental errors and it has cost us wins. For tht reason he must go. Look how much Deluca imporved things when he came on? Look at the guys who have scored and made the tries - almost all players Robinson did not want to play

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Blackadder would be a good choice, but not sure he would take the job, is Scotland even a step-up from the Crusaders at this time?

it would be a gamble for sure - but with the players we have Scotland could do well. If he took Scotland to a 6N win and 6th in the world how good would that look on his CV and its not an impossible task given 3 or 4 years

Scott Johnson - another failure who has proved he does not have it.


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 12:46 pm
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I think Johnston is the biggest charlatan in NH rugby. Brings nothing at all to the game and a failure in Wales.


 
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I see we are not S Johnson fans then :-).

Rumoured to be coming in on £200k a year as well!


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 1:12 pm
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Why does the SRU persist with known failures? Robinson had found his level with Edinburgh and was doing well there


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 1:14 pm
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What has Johnston done to earn that? Jings;I dispair of the SRU at times,and I am part of it 😕


 
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Scanning discussion here I have a few comments.

1) Phillips I always think gives the slowest ball in history, its Priestland who is wales ball handling hero, and phillips was rubbish on sat, until priestland went off, then he was awesome.

2) Scoltand looked like Harrier jump jet with Miss Daisy at the wheel, loads of good kit and ability but it was being driven badly.

3) France will win the 6N, beating ireland england and then wales..


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 1:26 pm
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Wales for a 6N/possibly slam. I thought Priestland had a poor game by his standards,but I also thought Philips was a bit slow. I don't think Priestl and will play as poorly again,and I thought Phillips tried to do too much on Sat, almost like he had a personal score to settle.


 
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As AA keeps telling me, I know nothing about rugby. Nevertheless I observed that pretty much every time Phillips picks up the ball from a scrum/breakdown whatever, he takes a few steps and can't make his mind up. I think this is not what Wales want?


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 3:21 pm
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Was at an Ospreys game a few years ago and the Osprey fans round about kept calling him "5 Step Philips" i don't think he is much liked as a player or person.


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 3:36 pm
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The Guardians Paul Rees, I always thought he was welsh? Anyway his individual player ratings today tally England up to have played better than Wales, despite losing. Despite being an England fan I found this assessment quite unfair.

[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/feb/25/england-wales-player-ratings ]http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/feb/25/england-wales-player-ratings[/url]


 
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Was at an Ospreys game a few years ago and the Osprey fans round about kept calling him "5 Step Philips" i don't think he is much liked as a player or person

Yeah I think I have heard this too, seems funny as he did play well otherwise. Anyway long may it continue, if Philips could provide consistent quick ball then life would be much harder..


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 3:39 pm
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The latest rankings are out and illustrate Scotland being closer to Namibia in 20th than to New Zealand.


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 3:41 pm
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Not sure about those player ratings either. An 8 for Barritt he is great in defence but has not offered much in attack and a 6 for Ashton he has done nothing at all?


 
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Yeah exactly, I cant see how Ashton got a 6 and Roberts a 4, I thought Roberts had a reasonable game, he was strangled a bit by Manu but he put in a lot of work. Anyway I guess the guardian is appealing to a core of home fans and wants to ride the red rose optimism..

EDIT I think you were right about Phillips popularity, I have just checked with my uncle in law, retired Bishopston resident and a welsh version of Statler from the muppets, apparently Phillips is not well liked in Swansea..


 
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I'm certain that all player rankings start at 5. Then for something done badly, they drop, something done well, they rise. That'll then give you a 6 for a completly awol winger who appeared at the ruck a few times and didn't actuallu cock up, and a 4 for a guy completly unsed to having someone bigger, stronger and as fast against him, but doing a reasonable job in the circumstances.


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 3:52 pm
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Does that mean

Ashton

That'll then give you a 6 for a completly awol winger who appeared at the ruck a few times and didn't actuallu cock up

and

Roberts

a 4 for a guy completly unsed to having someone bigger, stronger and as fast against him, but doing a reasonable job in the circumstances.

?


 
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