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http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbA7yN7S9w
Weir at centre is something I've never really thought of. TBH I believe that we have enough coverage at centre already (except of course when our centres are sitting on the naughty step). I think the lack of threat is more down to coaching and tactics. Could be an interesting experiment but I don't think Weir is the finished article yet and playing at his position would be the best move for now.
Thanks for that Bruce - makes good watching but just adds to the frustration as a load of those guys should have played for the full team against England.
Possibly, or perhaps it would be enough to give Michael Bradley a go as attacking coach. He certainly seems to be getting the job done at your end of the M8.
Just rewatched game. Reason for lamont being pulled up with the quick tap was firstly he took it from nowhere near the mark and secondly poite wanted to bin gethin and eales were making subs.
Have to say as far as tactical foul ups go scotland trying to outdo wales in a game of chuck about is almost as bad as when wales tried to take on fiji at their own game a couple of world cups ago.
The Scots tried to take the ball from as close to the mark as possible, that was the only one he called back all day, Phillips deliberate running into a retreating player being a good example of that. The ref bottled it as the Scots would have scored, even somebody as one eyed as you should be able to see that. We were well beaten, but incidents like that, and the supposed knock on, which was in the act of scoring so could have gone to video,were inconsistent. Trying to make a case for anything else would of course be admitting that Wales were caught with their pants down,and as such would never come from you.
How often did England actually look like scoring a try in the two games?
Every time some clutz kicked the ball at Hodgeson's face 🙂
Even with Flood fit, can England drop the try machine? 8)
Saucer of cream for Mr Duckman
Notice Lawes was playing 6 for Saints at weekend....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/17010572
The Six Nations game between France and Ireland looks likely to be rescheduled for the first weekend in March following Saturday's late postponement of the fixture in Paris.
I would have preferred this weekend, to be honest. That way, it's far more likley to be the same teams (Injuries etc) as well as being with the table at pretty much the same state as when they should have played. Results and events in the interim could have an impact.
Results and events in the interim could have an impact.
So what? They'd struggle to arrange a game with a weeks notice and why should they, just because it might benefit wales to do so?
They've done the right thing.
Duckman you are confusing the mark for the scrum with that of the pen which ref was playing advantage for. You also dont seem to notice that hook was between lamont and the try line. As for the other matter of the non knock on before scoring surely the vid ref can only be used for the act of scoring. Scotland lost because they were tactically inept combined with a lack of composure for scoring tries. Some cynical fouls were rightly punished by the ref. He was shit at the breakdown but not biased as said earlier if you want to score tries dont chuck the pass at peoples feet.
As for the other matter of the non knock on before scoring surely the vid ref can only be used for the act of scoring.
Sorry to pull this one, but he DID score. Exactly the sort of situation where the video ref should be used.
but he DID score.
No. He didn't. The referee did not indicate a try and the points for a try weren't given, so he didn't score. That's a SCIENCE FACT!
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Had Scotland played as well as they did in Cadiff against England they would have won that game. The Scots can take some comfort from an improved performance and they have some very talented younsgters coming through.
Pity the Ireland/France match was off as it would have been interesting to see the French tested.
Without a substantial improvement England are going to get a hiding, possibly more than one. The only upside is we'll see the back of Lancaster.
video ref cannot adjudicate on a possible knock on 5 m short of the line. refs call and it would be contentious either way - I thought it a knock on myself
I thought the ref could ask the video ref "Is it a try, yes or no?" or "Is there any reason I can't award the try?".
If he had asked the second question then the video ref could have checked for the knock on I'm pretty sure.
Video ref can only check the act of scoring I am fairly sure. Rugby league they can check specific things the ref asks for including offsides at kicks, forward passes as well as the act of scoring
The only upside is we'll see the back of Lancaster.
Why so down on him? I rather approve of the way he's taken things on. Seems to deal with the indiscipline well, and overall he's doing a good job with the players he has around him.
Would you prefer Jonny to coach instead? After all, getting a great ex-player as a coach worked really well last time! 🙂
video ref cannot adjudicate on a possible knock on 5 m short of the line
He can adjudicate on whether a try has been scored or not (he was in the act of scoring). There would have been sufficient justification considering that he didn't knock it on!
The only upside is we'll see the back of Lancaster.
Yep. I had high hopes but he's made some very, very poor decisions.
A.A; clutching at straws there, look at Phillips getting an extra 10 for a kick,what difference is there between that and the quick tap in the second half. On the video ref;He was one step from the line and refs DO use the video. "Is there any reason why I cannot award the try?" is the way around that and is what the guys who do pro are TAUGHT to ask.I believe you watch games with a video ref, surely you have seen this before?
Is Duckman the son of TJ 😉
I thought it was a knock on as well as did the player who just put his hands on his head rather than celebrate.
According to this the TMO can only be consulted about issues in the in-goal area. So looks like he was right not going to the TMO.
I think he could have asked the touch judge though.
Crap pass anyway.
Right then, next round predictions anyone? (Assuming the Frozen French game is not this coming weekend!)
England v Wales - England to win by 5-10 points. Sadly.
Ireland v Italy - Italy would have done well here, but will feel the loss of Castro sorely, I think. Ireland by 15
Scotland v France - It's time. They can do it. Surely they can. Scotland to edge it.
Wrecker the no knock on wasnt in the act of scoring so ref had to make his own call for me he got it wrong like the video ref last week. Harsh on scotland but lack of basic skills was the fault this week. Learn to pass!!
Unlike our friends who kick the round ball about, perhaps we should merely follow the example of the guys in the pitch. So when de Luca was sin-binned, did we see a Rooney or Terry-esque set of histrionics or a polite acceptance that the referee's decision is final.
An example for us all perhaps?
Bumpage
And another.
Why the pessimism for England Wales CFH?
Bruce, it's my default setting for that fixture. A pessimist is never disappointed, though....! 😉
I don't normally predict a loss for Scotland England games, just a really crap frustrating game 🙂
Anyway, how many charge downs can one man score from?
Duckman the differences are phillips was near the mark, lamont wasnt he was near the mark for the scrum, also the ref wasnt trying to bin anyone and no subs were being bought on and finally the clock was stopped. As for the knock it wasnt in the act of scorung. Ffs you are supossedly a ref!!!
1,2,3,4
We don't wanna be,
Your enemy,
But when we're on the field,
It's red, white and green,
Got beat by the Irish,
Got beat by the Scots,
The French had a struggle,
But you're the one we want,
We want...
As long as we beat the English,
As long as we beat the English,
As long as we beat the English, we don't care
As long as we beat the English,
As long as we beat the English,
As long as we beat the English, we don't care
We don't care
England will beat wales by 3 i've seen it in the tea leaves.
England will beat wales by 3 i've seen it in the tea leaves.
Who are you and what have you done with a_a?
I think if you look at the posts i've ever made you will see what a pessimist i am. Winning at twickenham is tough but to do it without a lineout is next to impossible. England will improve. Be intresting to see how farel copes with the welsh midfield.
All wales have to do is get those backs running at catflap and it'll be an extravaganza. I've been impressed with Farrells game including his tackling.
If Wales can keep up with the English pack they will win. If your pack plays like it did in the first half then England will strangle the life out of Wales.
Given how poor England were against Scotland and that despite Scotland playing better agaisnt Wales Wales still won Wales should stuff England
Pigface, I care. I care a lot.
I want Wales to beat EVERYBODY! 🙂
England will try to make it a forwards game as they always do and who can blame them? The Irish pack was better at the Aviva and the Scots gave us a bit of a mauling. If England can slow the ball down at the breakdown, prevent quick ball getting to Phillips then Wales will struggle. You also have to look at Flood and Manu getting fit for the game.
Having said that, I'll echo the comments of a certain Matt Dawson on Scrum V on Sunday night - on their day, Wales can beat any team in the world. Wales are more than capable of putting 20-30 points on England, winning the Triple Crown and getting in with a shout of the Grand Slam, but we have to get the forwards to play their game and not get bogged down by the spoiling game I'm sure England will try to play.
My 2p....and stand waiting to get flamed for it 🙂
Wales have played well, and to their strengths. However, so far they've played like that with opposition weakness against them.
That Ireland midfield defence was the worst that it's been for at least 10 years. North, Roberts,JDavies had a field day.
Against Scotland, they took full advantage of the sin-bin period and ran through more holes in midfield, plus a mismatch of about 4stone and 10" where Cuthbert steamrolled Laidlaw (who apart from that was very impressive).
I'm [u]not[/u] saying England are better than Ireland or Scotland, but they can be stronger in the important areas opposite the Welsh backs (when Hodgson's dropped). A midfield 10, 12, 13 of Farrell, Barrit, Tuilagi would be the biggest tackling opposition they'll have faced. If they stop the Welsh before the gain line there, it'll be interesting to see if Wales have a plan-B. They've been excellent at support running off the ball carrier in behind, but might not have that option.
The Welsh lineout has been poor, and kicking infield could play into the hands of Foden, Ashton, Strettle who have an edge in experience and positioning (England's only experience edge). The Welsh scrum won't have it all their own way either, the English front row has been one of their better points.
Wales are the better team, but England look set up to nullify that and make the game very slow and scrappy, and could end up taking this one by a penalty or two (no tries for them without Hodgson's faceblocks).
No mention of Phillips and the "pass at a retreating man" or "man running slowly through the 9 10 channel".
I'm bored of watching so many forwards retreat to their lines up the 9/10 channel effectively slowing the attack, especially as the timing seems so spot on. Everyone does it why not penalise them? or just have a weekend of 9s hitting the retreating man with the ball.
Mildly ironic that Philips got a penalty but when Blair ran into a retreating man he was waved on (not bitter, oh no not me).
toys and AA have had a brain swap.
I think wales will embarrass us quite nastily. Not looking forward to it.