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The Welsh system is broken.

This.
Not enough done at grass roots to encourage kids to play. Too many stupid rules that stifle their enjoyment when they do play, especially at age grade, and an academy system that appears to be designed to destroy players rather than help them.
25% today’s squad don’t play for Welsh regions. That must tell ‘the system’ that something is wrong.


 
Posted : 23/11/2024 11:39 pm
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A change of coach isn’t going to make a rat’s arse of difference.

It would make a bit, not a massive amount but some.

Meanwhile complete lack of class from Tuipoloto, coming in to float over Nd start a bundle with the injured player...


 
Posted : 24/11/2024 3:30 pm
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Cracking performance by Scotland, I worried for them when the big Aussie ball carriers got going early but the pack hung in there and Russell steered them around the park well.


 
Posted : 24/11/2024 4:31 pm
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Scotland are always going to score tries but that was a really good defensive showing from them


 
Posted : 24/11/2024 4:35 pm
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was a really good defensive showing from them

Superb, amazing what a settled team, with a cohesive gameplan and good coaching can do.

A change of coach isn’t going to make a rat’s arse of difference.


 
Posted : 24/11/2024 4:38 pm
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Bloody hell, regardless of the scoreline, England and especially JVP are so slow I don’t know how they are getting away with it.


 
Posted : 24/11/2024 5:35 pm
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 amazing what a settled team

Thats whats made the most difference to Scotland. Until recently the entire team played for two club teams in the same league (almost). They were used to playing with or against each other weekly. Now thats beginning to break down with players moving 'abroad' will they keep it together? I hope so as I do enjoy a trip to Murrayfield!


 
Posted : 25/11/2024 9:39 am
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Thoughts to Tom Voyce (Wasps/England)  friends and family as it appears Tom has been carried away in a flooded Ford attempted crossing presumed dead.

Sad times.


 
Posted : 10/12/2024 6:26 pm
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Bloody hell that's awful


 
Posted : 10/12/2024 7:12 pm
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1 week out from the Welsh quest for another wooden spoon and look who's back. (Actually it's a really interesting interview)


 
Posted : 25/01/2025 8:18 am
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Nothing to see here, move along, move along....


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 9:07 pm
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Glad it's back.


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 9:29 pm
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Jings,bit of a shoeing for Wales so far...


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 10:08 pm
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Ahhhh DuPont


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 10:15 pm
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The only reason I’m not enjoying Welsh disappointment too much is the realisation that everyone else is going to have to play the French


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 10:19 pm
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Jings,bit of a shoeing for Wales so far…

I don't think they'll be the only ones on the showing so far.


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 10:21 pm
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By the new rules is that a full red (as in, they now play with 14) or would a replacement come on after 20 mins?

Of course makes no difference here as <20 to play anyway.


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 11:08 pm
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By the new rules is that a full red (as in, they now play with 14) or would a replacement come on after 20 mins?

No idea.

Did well to keep it under 50!!


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 11:11 pm
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Man for man it is difficult to criticise Wales' effort. But if you offer precisely zero in attack you have to try to defend for 80 minutes. Which is basically impossible.

Worrying as France really didn't get above 3rd gear.


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 11:13 pm
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Fair play to the Wales team, they never stopped trying.


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 11:13 pm
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…never started trying either! 🙂


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 11:19 pm
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When Wainwright went off we effectively had 3 7's in the back row. Morgan is a good ball carrier for a 7 but he can't do the job of and 8 and a 6. Combined with Watkins at 12 getting injured and leaving a 10 at 12 and a 21 year old 10 making his debut we effectively had no carriers.....I mean we'd have lost without those injuries but would at least have had chance of doing something on the rare occasion we got the ball.


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 11:20 pm
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Daft red card silly behavior that.

Not sure what more wales could have done tbh.


 
Posted : 31/01/2025 11:21 pm
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France far too strong but thought their attack was a bit seat-of-the-pants. Half their players can make something from nothing, but it might take more structure to crack Ireland. Possibly a conscious choice for tonight's game, but dangerous to rely on Dupont's magic touch all the time (although fabulous to watch). And Ntamack, wonder how costly that red card will be. Jalibert is a great replacement but still a blow to lose first choice fly half to a sanction.

Shame for Wales who I thought were half decent in defence but sadly a bit blunt and predictable in attack. No doubt they'll get it together to put Scotland through the ringer!


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 3:59 am
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No doubt they’ll get it together to put Scotland through the ringer!

Given that was our 13th loss in a row, it seems unlikely!


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 6:42 am
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By the new rules is that a full red (as in, they now play with 14) or would a replacement come on after 20 mins?

I think the 20 minute red is an option for technical offences? So deliberate foul play, violent conduct, etc can still attract a straight red, down to 14 for the rest of the game. Ntamack was really silly.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 10:46 am
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From the way the pundits were talking "it was a cheap shot, we've all done it, we all knew what we were doing" it sounds like that would have been a full red then.

It was the definition of technical offence which I wasn't sure of - are all 'rugby' offences including high tackles and head contacts etc. considered technical and the full reds are reserved for eg: punching or gouging. But seems not and a deliberate high tackle is still full red.

Not sure if the intent of the authorities is going to work.... the aim I think is to reduce / remove dangerous (head) contacts and for players to mitigate their style accordingly. So even the non-deliberate, but still reckless if you like (ie without considering the 'what could go wrong' element as they go into a tackle) disappears from the game. I know some will say that it's a game of split second decisions and hard to relearn but it was managed very quickly and easily in football where the ball and man all together tackle is now pretty well out of the game, and even the most ingrained defenders learned very quickly. If the sanction is only 20 mins, the impetus for change is not as severe.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 10:53 am
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It was the cheapest of cheap shots and he should be banned for a few games I would hope.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 12:03 pm
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That was a painful watch as a Welshman. It looked like a training session for France at times.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 12:07 pm
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…never started trying either!

Harsh. It was probably the best they could do. Liam Williams didn't look like he thought it was worth risking injury, mind.

If French rugby culture allows, I reckon Shaun Edwards might have given them a bit of a bollocking after that. Their line speed wasn't great. But it didn't need to be.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 1:31 pm
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Wow The bbc graphics look cheap & trashy. Scotland look good though


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 3:28 pm
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France off to their usual slow start: I think it’s lucky their first opponents were utterly contemptible. They’ll likely get better as the championship goes on.

20 minute red cards got off to a bad start with a filthy foul in the Ireland England men’s under 20 game, but the player replaced after 20 minutes. It’s hard to defend the concept if there’s any hope of taking those dangerous fouls out of the game.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 4:13 pm
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Scotland doing a great job of throwing this one away...


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 4:32 pm
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Darcy Graham showing Cheslin Kolbe levels of being able to stay on his feet after being half-tackled there.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 4:40 pm
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I'll take that, although it wasn't very convincing at times, brilliant at others though.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 5:03 pm
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Cant see Wales beating Italy next week.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 5:45 pm
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a bit behind, but anthem singer was making most of his booking.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 6:08 pm
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For all England's great defence it's missed tackles that are killing them


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 7:04 pm
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Game plan for anyone playing against England...

Engineer a one-or-one for someone, anyone against Marcus Smith.

FFS.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 7:06 pm
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And kick high to Murley...


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 7:10 pm
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They are a bit rubbish.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 7:32 pm
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Ollie Lawrence has been superb


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 7:35 pm
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Bonus point against the World Beaters. Albeit a disappointing finish. I’ll take that.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 7:41 pm
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Anyone been following the discussions around the 6N tv rights.  Lots of talk about it being lost from free to view TV


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 11:08 pm
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Anyone been following the discussions around the 6N tv rights. Lots of talk about it being lost from free to view TV

Not a new thing. It’s been on Sky only before. It is typical Rugby Governance shooting themselves in the foot. For an extra £10 million (total guess) they get to be on subscription TV only, to a far smaller audience, then , in 5 years time, when grassroots rugby has fallen further into collapse, they will come back to terrestial TV, as the subscription service realises there isnt enough advertising revenue to keep paying the infalted fee to keep it exclusively subscription.

Grass roots rugby is dying a slow death. So much so that it is becoming difficult to run even a reasonably well run Club, as they just cannot get opposition. In Leics., my old County, around 40 Clubs have ceased to exist since the early 90’s. ‘Old’ Clubs that were the best in the County are now struggling to get one team out occasionally, and that team is usually made up of a load of over 40’s. Last week, my old Club, who have always been in the bottom tier of Rugby, played Rugby Lions. Not their 3rd or 4th team, but their firsts. This is the Rugby Lions who used to be a premiership team, now putting out one team at the lowest level. We also play South Leicester, who played, 5 years or so ago, in Level 4 (could have been 5), 3 or 4 promotions from playing Bath/Quins/Saracens etc. We beat them recently. Not because our level has increased, but the other Clubs are dying, and just cannot get Players.
What do the Rugby authorities do about it? Nothing as far as I can see. So long as the crowds turn up for the Internationals at the National Stadia, they are happy, but where are the new Players coming from? It’ll just be an elite game if things continue as they are.


 
Posted : 02/02/2025 8:37 am
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