Wales really need to sort set piece out. 3 own line-outs in a row lost (almost 4) and two pens on own scrum in succession
How do we keep spaffing line outs? Same I. The 6N, same in last years AI. You can literally practice them all day long
Red card, watch it end up with Moriarty sent off
Neither AB used arms
That's a red card
Someone shoot Elias in the knee at half time!
Neither AB used arms
Exactly, the mitigation was from foul play as Jiffy not so Junior pouted out!
I think yellow was right, but could of gone either way
NZ really are getting the rub of the green.
Lead up to the second try was 2x forward passes and a side entry at the ruck.
Black 6 & 3 tackle on Moriarty, neither used their arms. Only slight mitigation was Moriarty led with his head.
Wales would be in this if their set price wasn't such a shambles
I'm still hopeful...
A very frustrating half. Some iffy reffing (although still think yellow was correct), jizzing it up the wall when we do have pressure and injuries that on the surface look like they won’t be turned around for the boks. That’s almost a line in Wales fan bingo!
Pure class that one!
Elias still a prick
Thank **** he's off
And now we’re into to full bore spanking territory
It doesn’t matter how many points Wales score, it might look doable at about 60-65 minutes, but then NZ will score a shit load.
Wales 23 v NZ 48
Edited at 78:30 - scratch that!
Well Basham and Wainwright showed up well. Anscombe was clearly not up to speed should never have been picked. Fair play McNicol wasn't anywhere near as bad as I feared.
Looks like we are moving into life without AWJ...😥
Watching it slightly behind....that AB try for 40 😍
Anscombe was clearly not up to speed should never have been picked.
Whilst not up to speed, who else would you of picked at starting 10 who was available? Priestland seemed to do ok mind (much ax it pains me to say it) given a 5 year break from the jersey
NZ are just on another level.
Whenever they are under pressure they relieve it by going and scoring where other teams will look to clear their lines and regroup. Their pre-game plan is to 40+ points but they’re not happy until they score 50+.
Hats off to them, they deservedly are the best in the world.
Agreed, thankfully it gets a bit easier for the plucky but injury depleted Welsh next week....oh wait.😟
who else would you of picked at starting 10 who was available?
Jarrod Evans or Priestland. Picking a guy who has played 4 games in two years was beyond stupid.
Can any ref experts tell me the last time you have seen a ref ping someone for offside when a 10 has kicked the ball into row z from a penalty?
Can any ref experts tell me the last time you have seen a ref ping someone for offside when a 10 has kicked the ball into row z from a penalty?
I thought this was mad too.
As was the refs insistence on playing really long advantage for wales, only for AB's to infringe at 5m line and then bring wales back to the original offence every time, somewhere near half way. It felt like a great way to knacker the welsh out and make sure they never scored.
Don't get me wrong, I'm english and like to see the welsh beaten, but the reffing was quite glaring.
Plus as AA said the Moriarty thing was mad, both tacklers clearly offended and he used one to mitgate the other.
Oh and the catching in the air, yeah he missed the ball so what, AB clearly tackled him in the air.
And the deliberate knock on, as Desperate Dan said, we see yellows like that every day, why wasn't this a yellow?
I am no conspiracy theorist but sometimes I really think there is something dodgy going on.
What can Scotland take from that? Tonga did not put up a lot of resistance.
kinghorn looked competent and comfortable at 10 but had an armchair ride. Graham (be still my beating heart) and Mclean looked lively and made good runs. Nice to see Harley get another cap but he must be about 6th choice in the second row. Every team needs a ginger tackle monster.
There are tougher games to come and players to return but thats a few guys got their first caps with a comfortable win.
Jarrod Evans or Priestland. Picking a guy who has played 4 games in two years was beyond stupid.
Pretty sure Evans is still injured, and given that we were without Biggs, sheedy, Lloyd or Evans either through injury or unavailability and priestland was there to make up the numbers, why not give anscombe a starting run out. Priestland hasn’t played for Wales for 4 years iirc so has no future in the jersey, whereas anscombe does and clearly needed the game time.although, to be fair, we did play better when priestland took over at fly half. I also wonder where Patchell was or why not considered
This meme sums it up..
https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/qjberf/remember_when_we_had_that_one_glimmer_of_hope/
Blackadder is legal, he is moving his arm to wrap and his contact is outside arm and then sliding across his ribs ;Moriatey actually beats him but for the second tackle. Prop would have been a red but for the mitigation that Refs factor in for every single decision like this.
Pretty sure Evans is still injured, and given that we were without Biggs, sheedy, Lloyd or Evans either through injury or unavailability and priestland was there to make up the numbers, why not give anscombe a starting run out. Priestland hasn’t played for Wales for 4 years iirc so has no future in the jersey, whereas anscombe does and clearly needed the game time.although, to be fair, we did play better when priestland took over at fly half. I also wonder where Patchell was or why not considered
Evans played last week. Anscombe was well off the pace and shouldn't have been picked Priestland is playing well, he's not the future but would have been better than Anscombe. Patchel has concussion issues still, hasn't played in ages.
Patchel has concussion issues still, hasn’t played in ages.
I thought he was over those, clearly not which is a great shame.
The commentary did point out the real difference. ABs will let you go coast to coast and rely on a defensive line in the middle and an infringement in the 5m channel, it's becoming really obvious that when beaten they will kill the play illegally and in the main cleverly. BB only a penalty because the defence swinging into place behind him.
TJP looked like he was on some proper good drugs all through the game.
@tjagain just watched glaws Exeter. Hastings was average he had moments where he panicked either with too little time or two many options. His comms with 9 and 12 need to be better, just not clicked yet.
Ta
In all fairness that is the first time he has been off, and I am not really a fan. He has looked absolutely brilliant at times.
Did have a couple of sublime moments to be fair.
Kinghorn would have been his equal this weekend.
Hastings was average he had moments where he panicked either with too little time or two many options.
Agreed, he did have a shit game. I thought the game was held together by 36, Chris Harris (who was excellent and has that Hensonesque quality of retaining his haircut for the whole game) Santiago Cerrrreeweeaaa, and some of the forwards, Singleton, Morgan and a 2nd row who I don't know. Meehan was pretty good too. Woodward put in a try saver on the Exeter Scottish forward. Glos looked so complete for many aspects of the game. was peeved to see them lose in the end.
Quite annoying to hear commentators saying so and so is away with England when there's 4 or 5 other nation's internationals on the pitch not being released.
Hastings was average he had moments where he panicked either with too little time or two many options.
He tends to do this IMO - I don't rate him.
Quite annoying to hear commentators saying so and so is away with England when there’s 4 or 5 other nation’s internationals on the pitch not being released.
I dunno how to solve this, England RFU has deals with Prem clubs, but only selects from England. The Scottish and Welsh unions need to find a way to leverage their players so the English clubs will release them, Prem clubs get nothing from WRU and SRU so why would they give up players?
Is it better for Welsh and Scottish rugby to have players in england? I dunno, but its better for the players income.
also doesnt the WRU have some central contracting thing? Does that work?
Had the privilege of sitting behind the posts in the NZ end with Mrs TiRed. Was a great exhibition. Wales couldn't hold on to their Line outs. NZ didn't lose one. Two interception tries on your hundredth cap. And that fifth try. Just class. Son1, who plays to a high standard called it as the best try he's ever seen. OK it was viewed from a distance! 😂
Nice Birthday outing, and she's still buzzing.
Apologies for the 2x zoom and 10x digital on the iPhone 8+
Prem clubs get nothing from WRU and SRU so why would they give up players?
Not always, SRU paid for the release of the PRL players and Finn for the France game which fell out of the window because of Covid, we also paid up a couple of W/C cycles ago to get release for training camps. I assume the Welsh are the same. I would imagine the SRU have an eye watering insurance premium for the "foreign" based players though.
I have no issue at all with English clubs not releasing Scottish players out of the window for games like Saturday. At the end of the day they are paying Scottish players significantly enhanced wages compared to the SRU in what is a short career. They are also exposing them to a far higher standard of competition than the diddy league up here. Crack on the Premiership!
The PRL basically extorted the RFU over player release. To make it stick the premiership clubs are not allowed to release the scots and welsh players without eye watering sums being paid.
It benefits those players and overall the scots team to have the stars playing down south. Everyone knows the score over international release.
Worrying consensus going on here.
Meanwhile I'm concered no one mentioned England beat the crap out of NZ this weekend. 43-12.
It was the Red Roses Vs Black Ferns and a thriller by all accounts.
