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Watched leinster smash the weegies. Jeepers they are relentless

On my rugby forum the usual suspects whining about the video ref but I wouldn't put much credence on that - they always whine


 
Posted : 22/10/2021 11:40 pm
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On my rugby forum the usual suspects whining about the video ref but I wouldn’t put much credence on that – they always whine

As do I that's why I was after independent variafication!
The problem is Welsh teams go away to Ireland and have Irish video refs, they come back to Wales and still have Irish video refs.
The SA women who reffed Ospreys v Treviso last week was much better than the pillock today/yesterday/whenever it was. In general the SA refs have been a huge improvement on the standard of referees


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 8:06 am
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BBC highlights don't show anything to make a view


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 8:28 am
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as the controversial one was the first treviso

And the second, plus the two tries that Scarlets got disallowed from Steff Evans


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 8:31 am
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ON the BBC highlights ( I have now found the right ones) I see nothing wrong with either treviso try. Remember to rule it out the TMO must see something "clear and obvious" so if its just mm the on field decision stands. first one was he offside? Not clear and obvious but poor highlights make it tricky to judge

What do you think wrong with the second one?

It doesn't show the disallowed ones


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 8:37 am
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Last weekend sarries were dominant and also had the rub of the green. It reminded me of taking my U16 team to merchiston where deep in the second half the spectators appluaded the fact we actually got a penalty in our favour. There's some pretty one eyed reffing at times.


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 9:08 am
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Scarlets first try was lovely and it's great to see Scott Williams back where he belongs and playing well.

The try by the Treviso prop was a great scored too mind.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HS9Anqrg0xM


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 1:57 pm
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Remember to rule it out the TMO must see something “clear and obvious”

Typed a long reply then lost it!! Can't be bothered again, but whilst the above is true it was a shit show of inconsistantcies from the ref and video ref when seen in the whole. The first one was a clear forward pass, his hands go forward and the 22m line is handily placed to see it went forward too.


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:01 pm
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Scarlets first try was lovely

I mean the second don't I!!


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:15 pm
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Even the ref said "does he have both feet behind the ball" and clearly one isn't.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ChHYmfQgeRU

Great finish and as an individual decision, try, fine, move on, but then later decisions made a mockery of it.


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:18 pm
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Ah yes - I thought that about the pass when I saw the replay. You will always get inconsistencies in rugby reffing simply because a lot of it is subjective. As long as its consistent in that game thats as good as it gets and all fans only see the decisions that go against them not for them

Take the Hit in the air in the edinburgh game - it could have been seen as anything from a "rugby incident" with both players going for the ball to a deliberate piece of foul play and a red card and penalty try. Myself I thought it worth a yellow, the pundits were split, the ref gave just a penalty>>

totally subjective decision


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:21 pm
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You see to me that is not "clear and obvious" from that replay


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:23 pm
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You see to me that is not “clear and obvious” from that replay

Which one? He clearly picks the ball up with one foot ahead and one behind. Even the ref says so and is then talked out of it by the video ref. As you say though what we want is consistency and in that game seen as a whole we didn't get anything like it. What grips my shit is how we get "independent" video refs in some games and then other teams get homer video refs. The bemused looks on some of the Saffer refs in games in Ireland when the Irish video refs try to lead them has been hilarious this season. In general the addition of the saffers has been great in improving the ref standards.
The line last week from the lady Saffer ref about not flying halfway round the world to baby sit toddlers was awesome!!


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:39 pm
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I would need to see it from the other side - to me its marginal from what I could see hence " not clear and obvious" but I wouldn't like to bet my house on it or even a pint

I don't know if its whole foot behind the whole ball or toe behind furthest foreward bit of ball


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:47 pm
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Edinburgh struggling to put Zebre away. Real harum scarum game and the useless Frank Murphy as ref. He has ignored a load of fouls and two at least yellows -IMO of course. He is one of the refs I hate to see.


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:50 pm
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I don’t know if its whole foot behind the whole ball or toe behind furthest foreward bit of ball

Even the ref says "both feet need to be behind the ball, clearly one foot isn't, unless you can see anything else" then we have five mins of wibble from the video ref before the try is allowed.


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 2:53 pm
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That sounds like the refs fault then - he should be making the decision. What did the TMO say?


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 3:18 pm
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London Irish beat exeter - and deny them a LBP even what is going on?

Can any of the english / gloucester fans tell me how Adam Hastings is getting on? got too big for his boots up here IMO but moving south could be the making of him as a player


 
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Nice to Irish doing so well, or exeter doing so badly, I only caught the last 15 and I thought Chiefs were going to do their usual, so V glad they didn't
Chiefs looked off colour to be honest Irish were not that scintillating and I can't see them being really threatening elsewhere.


 
Posted : 23/10/2021 7:29 pm
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Cracking win for Ospreys v Munster. Ospreys didn't have internationals whilst Munster did.

Very little input from any video ref either!!


 
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USA v New Zealand has done nothing to reduce my ill-ease with Wales playing them!

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Posted : 23/10/2021 11:47 pm
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USA v New Zealand has done nothing to reduce my ill-ease with Wales playing them!

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I'm sure all that falling over the line to score will have tired them out!


 
Posted : 24/10/2021 8:41 am
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Australia not very convincing against Japan yesterday. They're going to need to do a lot better than that if they want to be serious WC contenders.


 
Posted : 24/10/2021 2:52 pm
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Japan are fine team with a good record of beating big names. 10th in the world. In recent years they have beaten SA, Ireland, Scotland all of whom have beaten Aus.


 
Posted : 24/10/2021 3:24 pm
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AA; with all the player Wales are missing against the All Blacks, thank goodness there isn't covid in the squad as well...


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 12:59 pm
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Tonga got to stand a good chance against a "fresh" Scotland.


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 2:45 pm
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Its certainly not going to be the strongest Scotland team and Tonga have a chance for sure - but Tonga are not as strong a team as they have been.

Big question for Scotland is who plays at 10. Meatball (Weir) or Thompson - the steady chap or the new young whizz kid. Dancer and haircut ( Russell and Hastings) are both unavailable and so is VDW

I'd like to see Thompson start with Meatball on the bench

Second row is another tricky one. top 4 or 5 players unavailable. We have more depth than we used to but its a big drop in quality after the top 4 or 5


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 3:25 pm
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AA; with all the player Wales are missing against the All Blacks, thank goodness there isn’t covid in the squad as well…

**** off 😟😟😟😆🤪

Actually if it could get cancelled would the WRU still get the much needed cash?

Its certainly not going to be the strongest Scotland team and Tonga have a chance for sure – but Tonga are not as strong a team as they have been.

Yeah, let's hope NZ are not as strong as they have been too

Quick run down; f who is unavailable, off the top of my head;

Loopy Liam, just had appendix out.
1/2p poorly knee
LRZ unavailable
North broken
Halaholo Covid
Tompkins unvailable
Biggar unavailable
Sheedy unavailable
Faletau unavailable
Youngs unavailable
Lydiate broken
Tipuric broken
Navidi broken
Botham broken
Christ 'son of god' Tszhuna unavailable
Brown broken

On the plus side Calamity Cuthbert and the world flakiest/oldest ten in Priestland are back in the squad so.....


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 4:21 pm
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I saw they had called up Cuthbert and thought " shyte thats baaaaaad"


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 4:27 pm
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The toonbola has been turned on again and given an extra shake or two. No one saw this coming. I guess we now know why King Blairhorn got a couple of outings at 10 for Edinburgh ( he was a 10 at age grade) so we have a full back at 10, a winger at 15, a 6 at 5 and a blend of inexperience and youth and midgets *shocked picachu face*
What Meatball has done wrong I do not know

15. Darcy Graham – Edinburgh Rugby – 19 caps

14. Kyle Steyn – Glasgow Warriors – 1 cap

13. Sione Tuipulotu – Glasgow Warriors – Uncapped

12. Sam Johnson – Glasgow Warriors – 18 caps

11. Rufus McLean – Glasgow Warriors – Uncapped

10. Blair Kinghorn – Edinburgh Rugby – 25 caps

9. Ali Price (cc) – Glasgow Warriors – 42 caps

1. Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby – Uncapped

2. George Turner – Glasgow Warriors – 17 caps

3. Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 38 caps

4. Jamie Hodgson – Edinburgh Rugby – Uncapped

5. Rob Harley – Glasgow Warriors – 22 caps

6. Jamie Ritchie (cc) – Edinburgh Rugby – 27 caps

7. Hamish Watson – Edinburgh Rugby – 41 caps

8. Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 13 caps

Replacements

16. Stuart McInally – Edinburgh Rugby – 40 caps

17. Jamie Bhatti – Glasgow Warriors – 18 caps

18. Oli Kebble – Glasgow Warriors – 8 caps

19. Marshall Sykes – Edinburgh Rugby – Uncapped

20. Luke Crosbie – Edinburgh Rugby – Uncapped

21. Nick Haining – Edinburgh Rugby – 8 caps

22. Jamie Dobie – Glasgow Warriors – Uncapped

23. Ross Thompson – Glasgow Warriors – Uncapped


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 4:34 pm
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AA - want a woe is me contest?

We are missing

Frazer Brown Rory Sutherland Simon Bergman
Jonny gray, Scott Cummings, Alex Craig.
Blade Thompson

Byron McGuigan, Cammy Redpath Chris Harris, Finn Russell Adam Hastings, Duhan VDM Huw Jones Jaco VDV sean Mailand, Stuart Hogg

At least and many of them first choices


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 4:47 pm
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We are missing

And are playing Tonga
We have NZ

Oh and Blade is fit just not picked. Been a 1 man back row for Scarlets this season.


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 6:31 pm
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Will scarlets release him? IIRC welsh teams have refused release outside of the windows before

Back row is one place we have plenty of folk tho


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 6:39 pm
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Darcey at full back? Jings; he is wee enough to still get on the bus for a half! Are the games all on council telly?


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 7:09 pm
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I was away at the seaside last weekend, bumped into Josh Navidi in Saundersfoot.

He’s just had surgery on his shoulder that looks like a season ending injury for him. That was after a bump on the Lions tour prior to the tests that ruled him out until early October.

He’s had some shit luck for, in my mind, one of the best back row players in the northern hemisphere.

A quiet, humble, unassuming guy you could ever wish to meet. I went all fanboy at him. I think he was a bit embarrassed.


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 7:38 pm
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AA - you will be fine. Josh Adams says so

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/58988483


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 7:44 pm
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Duckman - amazon prime or like me you can watch on a dirty feed


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 7:48 pm
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I'm not sure Prime will give me another free month this year, worth a try though!


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 8:08 pm
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AA – you will be fine. Josh Adams says so

If all our players were as good as him we would be..... Jiffy Not So Junior Anymore v the pace of NZ in the 13 channel really does give me the fear!


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 8:10 pm
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Who is up for score predictions? You remember my excellent record at this 😉


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 8:17 pm
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Wales 3 NZ 240 000
Scotland 58 Tonga 12
USA 10 Ireland 64


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 8:20 pm
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I doubt Scotland will in as well as that - 10 pts maybe.


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 8:34 pm
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I think wales will do better than you fear. forwards should be able to control the ball fairly well even get the majority of possession but NZ to pull away in the final 1/4


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 8:37 pm
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forwards should be able to control the ball fairly well even get the majority of possession

Bit early to start drinking isn't it? I'll wait til Saturday, if I time it right I can have a few watching the Tonga Scotland knock about and be hammered by 5pm!!


 
Posted : 27/10/2021 9:15 pm
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🙂

Scotland tonga should be entertaining - Scots backline only know how to attack and attack at all costs from anywhere.


 
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