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Not if you are a player though.
NOw as you need to be compliant with all your league rules to be in the euro cup do Sarries get kicked out of that as well?
Be like a homecoming, Billy and Mako are apparently Welsh. AA posts a picture up and everything from time to time.
Is that AA second from left front row?
No, he was on a secret mission to the Turks and Caicos Islands looking for the next George North. Speaking of Welshmen, anybody read Stephen Jones column? I think Sarries bunged him a few quid. Gems like the only reason other prem clubs didn’t take Sarries stars last week was to ensure Sarries couldn’t comply. No mention of the fact they were told to comply in October, haven’t handed back the trophies, refused to be audited and are still in breach.
Signing more players this season and not getting rid of any really showed intent to comply.
Wrays arrogance has cost them big time - he thought he could bluff and bluster his way out.
What still stinks a bit is that rather than open the books so a proper analysis can be done or what they actually did they just took relegation. Seems a bit of an easy way out really; they’ll have a year in the championship but they’ll probably go undefeated.
Maybe EJ knew what was going on when he said that the WC squad was finished? Either way it’s a massive shit show for English rugby.
Going back to rhat pic, imagine if Billy, Talupe and Mako had all stayed in Wales, you English would never win anything, I'm discounting the Scots, as, well....you know.
At least our saffers and Fijians stay loyal!
@duckman - i just read that, and the Barnes article too. I’m stunned! They cheated, no wonder they won loads.
Is it any less simple than that?
Why are Jones and Barnes defending it? Are they seeing something we don’t?
Both trying to stay relevant l think.
AA; what is it England have won exactly? World cup? Grand Slam? Calcutta Cup?
AA; what is it England have won
Through to the knockout stages of the last world cup?
Whats this Calcutta cup you speak of? I thought it disappeared when John Jefferies booted it down the street?
AA; what is it England have won exactly? World cup? Grand Slam? Calcutta Cup?
Sweet FA for a few years; mid table obscurity.
I only have a few more weeks to rub it in. 😀
Sarries / Racing is a cracker of a game. Sarries 14 nil after ten with Racing with a yelloow. 17 21 down at the half with Skelton red carded.
Finn is playing a blinder. Farrell is all over the place.
Glasgow manage to exit the competition in the most Scottish of ways possible.
Actually, that's not true. True Scottish style would be for Racing to win 27 - 24 and then have Gloucester win with a last minute penalty.
I am happy for Glasgow not to go through. they need to concentrate on the league and if they had gone thru it would have been away to a big team. A week off will do them more good
Bad blunder from the reffing team tho. The pen that put sarries in a scoring position was a mistake - daly knocked on onto the racing guys head. Still - mistakes happen in every game and Sarries fought really well to get the win
The issue for me with Saracens is that they are still benefiting from their breach of the salary cap. Yes they will be relegated at the end of the season. But they are now in a position to pick up a Euro Cup place, albeit depending on how Gloucester go against Toulouse.
IMO they should be kicked out of the competition as of now. They are continuing to gain financially from the Euro games, they also receive a parachute payment when they go down to the Championship.
It stinks.
apparently the rules of the euro cup include that you have to be compliant with the rules of your league. I suspect that if Sarries do go thru there will be decisions to be made by the euro cup folk
for me they should be thrown out of he Euro cup as well and stripped of all titles the last 4 years. Maybe like some of the TDF ones don't award the titles to anyone else - just call it void.
God Zammit, scores a try v Toulouse then goes off injured 😥
Hope he can get fit and on the pitch v Italy
Billy V suspected broken arm, real shame for the lad he has had more than his share of injuries.
Leinster's reward for winning every game and topping the seedings - Saracens with their whole season (and next season too) resting on that one game.
Big shame about Billy; fourth broken forearm for him now.
Eddie has some if calls to make tonight / tomorrow about the make up of the squad. Watson is broken too, although I’m not sure how badly.
Billy will take a long time to recover. How old is he? He might never be back. Break a bone that has already been plated is a big issue
Seems that 8s break arms, why is that? What are they doing to keep breaking arms?
It's not like calum Clark is in opposition every game.
Carry lots into big ****ers!!
What happens if Saracens go on to win the European cup, that would cause a right stink.
I suspect the european cup bods are having a big think about this. By being in breech of their home leagues rules they are automatically in breech of the european cup rules by my understanding
they should be thrown out of the european cup and I suspect they will be. It could be done done with no disruptiuon
Sarries have caused a proper shitstorm that isn’t going to go away anytime soon.
If they’re not booted out of Europe, they’ll chuck the kitchen sink at it and just bin off the Prem. Which is ironically the exact thing that many English fans say about the likes of Leinster.
Listened to the BBC pod on it this morning. Venter is still very defensive of what Sarries have done and is complaining that they didn’t get enough time to cut the age bill...piss off. They knew there was a risk that they wound get found out when they knew they were being investigated. They thought they knew better. **** ‘em.
Interesting squad announcement by EJ...
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No number eight is an odd call. Wilson is only just making his comeback from injury but has always deputised well for Billy previously. Can’t believe that Dombrandt hasn’t been called up because he’s looked good for Quinn’s and we need his ball carrying ability.
No Nowell is an odd call too given that Watson is broken. That’s a decent amount of experience from our backs missing plus he can cover other positions.
Currey/Lawes/Ludlam/Underhill mobile back three in rotation I guess. Can't see us winning this with the same 'ol Ben Youngs and a lack of experienced wings/FB
**** me. England.... 3rd? But, wasn't it always the way this was never "all conquering England" but a run up to the next RWC?
I see professional cycling like professional rugby now, in that the physical limits mean you only have a short term of winning things such is the strain, unless your an all black of course.
All Blacks generally have shorter international careers as they get replaced by the next wonder kid.
Didn’t realise that Nowell is due to have surgery again, hence his omission. Sone of the youngsters called up from Saints are playing pretty well at the mo.
Sounds like Finn Russell has fallen out with the coaching staff; he’s been sent home from the training camp and will not play against Ireland but it is not yet clear if he will take part in any further 6N games.
I assume that Hastings will step up in his place.
Pray for TJ!!!
Wow Finn Russell out - I've tried to find some details but found nothing. It will be interesting to know what happened!
Wow Finn Russell out – I’ve tried to find some details but found nothing. It will be interesting to know what happened!
The reports just say that he broke team protocol. Sounds like a polite way for saying that he clashed with Gregor to me.
Wow Finn Russell out – I’ve tried to find some details but found nothing. It will be interesting to know what happened!
The reports just say that he broke team protocol. Sounds like a polite way for saying that he clashed with Gregor to me.
I did wonder if that is the case too, especially as it sounded as if he almost 'mutineered' against England last year.
Sounds like the Russell family vs SRU feud rumbles on.
Jeepers - what has happened there.
Its no secret he and Townsend have not got on at all. Hastings I do not rate. I'd rather have meatball ( Weir)
Has Townsend lost the dressing room? rumours have been circulating. No player is bigger than the team but neither is the coach!