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That wasn't the question I asked you. Which was 'what magazine was that'. Which you haven't actually answered, just given some mumbled reply to.
It was produced for the chain that own most of the UK's Aston Martin dealerships. We did one for their Mercedes dealers as well. The syndicated articles were reproduced in in-house magazines for hotel chains like Marriott, De Vere etc.
Funny smell in here, sort of...bovine.
I'd imagine Mr Atkinson has driven a few more supercars than you, and he's actually owned quite a few, as well as raced them. Isn't he Top Gear's fastest ever 'Star in a Reasonably Priced Car' (or if not, certainly one of the fastest)?
And you're judging him based on scant information you've gleaned from news reports/the internet.
Maybe the both of you should have a race, decide who is the best driver, as you clearly rate yourself very highly, given your attitude.
As for the second, his car isn't that far from the road and looks intact - the description of "spinning out" brings to mind a series of 130mph 360 twirls but a 40mph slide through 90 degrees and a bump would be sufficient to earn that description in today's news.
his car is on the wrong side of the road and hit that signpost - not something that an accident from sensible driving would result in
What if a baby panda had been cycling along on that side of the road when he lost it and spun across the carriageway, the panda may have lost a limb and not been able to hold bamboo in that really cute way- this thread would have a different theme then...
what if indeed. You may speculate that if a cyclist had been there he may have adapted his driving and the accident not happened.
Hyperthetical not hyperrelevent.
accidents happen, calm down its only a commercial... oops real life.
I spun on a patch of diesel oil coming off a round about once, did 360 degree turn and ended up in the grass, same thing could have happened with Mr Bean, accidents happen. Fair play he clearly likes driving and fair play he's probably not that bad a driver looking at the article. I also agree, if you have a nice car it should be used and not kept as an investment.
his car is on the wrong side of the road and hit that signpost
While there are *some* sections of that road with significant bushery in the central reservation of dual carriageway sections, you could well be right.
That wasn't the question I asked you. Which was 'what magazine was that'. Which you haven't actually answered, just given some mumbled reply to.
Mumbled? I've told you exactly. I'm not about to start naming the companies I'm associated with on an internet forum, but it wouldn't take a rocket surgeon to work it out from the information I've given you. Suffice to say, unless you're an Aston Martin owner, or have visited a dealership with a view to purchasing one, you're very unlikely to have read them.
However, if you stayed in a Marriott or De Vere hotel between about 1999 and 2008, you might well have read one of my pieces. 😉
And you're judging him based on scant information
Of all the folk that regularly post on here I would consider Mr Shibboleth one of the least likely to judge a book by it's cover.. 😉
Since there is no footage of the incident (to my knowledge) and none of can say we were there; the pissing contest ^^^ of "My Knowlegde of cars and driving is greater than yours [citation needed] and therefore makes me qualified to comment" is entirely pointless...
Love how STW can chew up so much time 🙂
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And you're judging him based on scant informationOf all the folk that regularly post on here I would consider Mr Shibboleth one of the least likely to judge a book by it's cover..
and so it goes for a magazine and it's editor...HMMM 😕
My kids can argue over anything. Earlier today they argued over who would open the front door. That was after arguing about who would get the spoons out of the drawer for breakfast. The other day they argued about who would be a better hedgehog.
I used say 'you could argue with your own shadow.'
I think in future I might say 'you argue like posters on STW forum!'
It's bloody good fun though... I blame the fact that we're all cyclists so we get a bit stir crazy sitting at desks...
I think in future I might say 'you argue like posters on STW forum!'
preposterous 👿
It's great that people like him actually drive their car collection but come on does anyone really think he wasn't pushing it a bit to lose control like that? Pushing it a bit in a supercar on public roads is kinda driving like a bell-end, if he'd have done it on a track I'd have applauded his efforts but on a public road? I'm not going to organise a lynch mob as I'm assuming he was doing it on a clear bit of road so the only risk was to himself (although that doesn't appear to have been the case in his first accident). If he did that with other traffic about then yeah he's a bell-end
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Funny smell in here, sort of...bovine.
It also makes me laugh how childish a poster can become when he's been left with egg on his face. Run along now THX, there's a good chap. 🙄
Can I just say that I absolutely am the worlds most average driver.
And THX just got owned with that response.
Hardly. I merely asked a question. That is all.
So you are making out that was "just a question" are you.
Is that some cringeworthy sub genre of the Edinburgh Defence then !
What is the Edinburgh Defence?
Would have been far better to just say "fair enough, you've pwned me there..." rather than try to accuse me of making it up!
I don't know the circumstances of his particular crash, but at pretty much exactly the same time as his crash i.e. within minutes and in the general area as well, a relative of mine also crashed their car because there was an almighty downpour of rain from memory and they lost control\ aquaplaned and crashed writing off their car. They were driving a Renault Clio and are very competent and safe drivers who have never had an accident in the 35 years I've known them, i.e. would not have been driving 'like a dick' so it is more than plausible that this also happened here as well.
Remember his first crash on the A6 near Garstang,a lad walked in to my local news agents with a bit of carbon fibre of his car, must have been about £2000 worth 😆
As for the second, his car isn't that far from the road and looks intact - the description of "spinning out" brings to mind a series of 130mph 360 twirls but a 40mph slide through 90 degrees and a bump would be sufficient to earn that description in today's news.
This month's Classic and Sportscar have a full write up on the re-build of the car, including details of the accident - I think it said he was accelerating hard in 4th gear.
Now I've never driven an F1, but I'm pretty sure 'accelerating hard in 4th' = high speed and big probability of catastrophe.
I've never driven a 12 cyclinder BMW engined car, but I have driven the V10 in an M5. Accelerating "hard" in any gear is something you only did in a straight line, in the dry and preferably on the track! 😯
I don't think Mr Bean hurt anybody other than his insurance company though
Where do you think the £910,000 ultimately comes from to pay the insurance claim...?
Any performance engine has a fantastic ability to gain revs very quickly, consequently if you lose grip and don't lift off when the tyres grip you can be at high revs (and high torque). This is what usually causes the loss of control.
I saw a friend do it with a Hayabusa (1300cc motorbike for those that don't know). He set off and accelerated. The rear tyre lost grip, and then caught again. But because he was slightly leaned over it just high-sided him OTB - at all of 15-20mph.
And you don't need a powerful car for this, Fiat X1/9's had a remarkable ability to swap ends - part of having a mid-engined car.
Would have been far better to just say "fair enough, you've pwned me there..." rather than try to accuse me of making it up!
You've provided no actual proof of having extensive experience of driving supercars such as the McLaren F1, (indeed by your own admission you've never actually driven one) and we only have your word that you used to edit some magazine you seem somewhat hesitant to name, so forgive me for being somewhat sceptical as to your 'credentials'. You criticised Rowan Atkinson's driving, without actually being in possession of the facts, and I think your attitude just smacks of arrogance, and trying to look clever on the internet amongst a bunch of people who don't know anything about you. What actually are your driving credentials, beyond your claimed brief drives in other peoples' cars? Do you have any race experience, like Mr Atkinson?
So you are making out that was "just a question" are you.
No, it actually was a question. Shibboleth made comments which suggested he might know a thing or two about driving a supercar like the McLaren F1, and I enquired as to his credentials, and he gave a reply which still doesn't prove he really has any.
I don't know the circumstances of his particular crash, but at pretty much exactly the same time as his crash i.e. within minutes and in the general area as well, a relative of mine also crashed their car because there was an almighty downpour of rain from memory and they lost control\ aquaplaned and crashed writing off their car. They were driving a Renault Clio and are very competent and safe drivers who have never had an accident in the 35 years I've known them, i.e. would not have been driving 'like a dick' so it is more than plausible that this also happened here as well.
A perfectly plausible explanation for Mr Atkinson's accident, wouldn't you say?
@thx best stop whilst you're behind old chap. This just comes across as sour grapes....
Aaah, I get it. You're Rowan's secret Northamptonshire love child hence the [s]blind love[/s] interest... 🙂
Surely he should just use the BlackAdder defence?
Sour grapes? Not really; I just enjoy seeing people squirm when challenged. 😉
I reckon you should stop now before we have to close the thread.
Jesus wept thx, you really come across as a bellend.
How many supercars have [i]you[/i] driven? Seems that Shibboleth has more experience than anyone else here, accept it and move on.
Ps re "have you any race experience" I used to race MX, doesn't magically make me any good at it. I've also raced mountain bikes, again I was as good before, during and after each event as racing, in and of itself doesn't create a step change in ability.
Jesus wept thx, you really come across as a bellend.
Why the insults? Just for taking someone's unsubstatiated comments with a pinch of salt? You can beleive the word of a random off the internet all you want; I'll make my own mind up based on actual facts and evidence, thanks.
Seems that Shibboleth has more experience than anyone else here
See, that's the bit we haven't actually proven yet.
This thread gets my vote for "You wouldn't believe what stw will argue about 2013"...so far.
