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So he's going for London Mayor.
Would you guys vote for him, if you could?
He's now an independent so I don't feel so dirty for thinking he seems an ok sort of bloke.
What's your take on him?
Have you been on the cooking Sherry?
Well I wouldn't put it past him. Party politics are not really in vogue right now, he's got more charisma and know how on conducting a campaign than the current official conservative candidate and the current mayor hasn't exactly set pulses racing....plus it's been done before. Livingstone won as an indy.
I reckon it's evens
Not part of that London, and not a Tory in any way but I reckon he's in with a fair shout. I quite like his not-quite-populism, not-quite-partisan, not-quite-elitist approach.
I'd like more politicians of all persuasions to be a bit more Rory.
Nah Tory candidate Sean Bailey was already looking shaky
But I reckon Rory has just gifted it to Sadiq Kahn
Don't know much about London mayoral politics as I'm from the grim North.
Rory as ex tories go seems reasonable.
I do emphatically think that Sadiq has has a really rough ride as he's labour, and his predecessor was Johnson and the tories have slashed budjets for police etc. And then blamed him for being weak at tackling crime. In particular street crime, knives, etc.
Rory is the most dangerous kind of Tory - one that appears human.
If he had a shred of decency he wouldn't have joined them in the first place.
Rory Stewart voted in favour of repealing the Human Rights Act 1998; against plans to save the steel industry including fast-tracking infrastructure projects requiring large amounts of steel
Rory Stewart voted to remove the duty on the Commission for Equality and Human Rights to work to support the development of a society where people's ability to achieve their potential is not limited by prejudice or discrimination and there is respect for human rights.
He was absent for most of the NI gay marriage debates too.
See also Ken Clarke.
A moderate Tory is still a Tory.
And all the more dangerous for it.
Having listened to Rory more - it strikes me that he has moved on philosophically somewhat from his earlier Tory days, much like Bercow. It’s not as obvious as Bercow but he has - I find it hard to condemn someone because of previously held views unless they are outright nasty. I get the feeling and hope that his views change further, we will see.
Remember, we need opposition as a counter balance - if you are going to try and find bipartisan support on issues then you need people like Rory. Condemning them is ridiculous.
I’ve never voted Tory. I’d never vote Tory. The language used by Rusty is as dangerous as those he (and I) politically oppose. No, probably much more dangerous. We’re all human.
He announced his resignation by reading out a private personal document of the kind our ginger non-king is suing the press over.
He's just boris of a decade ago.
Remember? When he was on 'have I got news for you' - and the retard british public fawned over him because of his floppy mop and easy going demeanour?
You effing idiots.
Didn't fall for this ****t then, or for this identikit idiot now.
Snakes.
Rory actually has a sound grip on foreign affairs, security and development - I don't remember Boris hiking Afghanistan.
They couldn't be more different in terms of character - it's just they both sound posh and effete to you.
This isn't a man who lacks moral conviction:
I’ve never voted Tory. I’d never vote Tory. The language used by Rusty is as dangerous as those he (and I) politically oppose. No, probably much more dangerous. We’re all human.
Go on? Give us an example?
A Hong-Kong-born-Eton-Oxford-silver-spoon-in-gob Tory - come the révolution... . It's a mind set. Only the stinking rich should consider voting for him.
You can lay the accusation of being privileged on Corbyn as well.
You can’t judge an MPs character entirely on their voting record thanks to our party system. If instead of voting for the ridiculously outmoded notion of parties and thus MPs constrained by the whip system and instead voted for individuals at a local level who we thought best represented our constituency- then we would be able to judge their character purely from their voting record.
But that’s way to ****ing sensible for an entrenched polarised population that like to pigeon hole everyone that disagrees with them or find a reason to blame their shit futile meaningless lives on out groups.
London Mayor?.
Who really gives a flying ****.
Tries to come across as reasonable but he's not. May Brexit voter, austerity voter etc. Seems very confused to me.
He was one of Binners' Brexit heroes - Christ knows why.
Straight off that MAD comic too.
As above too with Nobeer.
I could vote for him but most definitely won’t, publicity stunt for his career after leaving the Tory Party and not what London needs.
His nickname among the tories in parliament was 'Florence of Belgravia'.
He has zero connection with London so other than bagging the generous salary it’s hard to see what his motivation for running for office is.
He will split the tory vote and ensure a labour victory
As rusty says - once a tory always a tory.
No attempt at ethical or social seduction can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.
Aneurin Bevan
Cheddar - its all about power. He can't get any thru parliament so this is the second prize
You can’t judge an MPs character entirely on their voting record thanks to our party system.
Indeed, anyone using opposition day motion votes to demonstrate the "mendacity" of their particular chosen politician is just being successfully propagandised at.
As rusty says – once a tory always a tory.
The increasing Footballisation of our 2 party system is killing any attempt at rational debate
Nobeerinthefridge
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London Mayor?.
Who really gives a flying ****
I'm guessing the people who live in London?
nickc - see that quote - its from 60+ years ago and its perfectly correct.
You cannot have a rational debate with a tory. You never have been able to. Its all about power, privilege and cruelty. We have seen such deliberate cruelty from our current crop of tories that they Bevan quote is still as true now as it was all that time ago
Lets just remind you. Deliberate impovrishment of the sick and disabled.
Deliberate destruction of public services
Deliberate discrimination against LBGT
Support for vile dictatorships the world over.
Stewart is a tory. He is lower than vermin
Not sure on his politics but he walked across Afghanistan so he’s got bigger balls than 99.9% of the posters on here.
You cannot have a rational debate with a tory.
Stewart is a tory. He is lower than vermin
Equally you can't have a rational debate with anyone who comes out with nonsense like this. Personally I judge people not parties, Just as there are MPs in Labour/SNP/PC I can't take seriously, there are Tories to whom I'll pay attention when they have something to say.
So what does Stewart have to say? How can he defend what he has voted for? tens of thousands of deaths from policies he has voted for
You think Bevan was wrong?
nickc - the reason I am so vehement about this is I have seen the despair and death deliberately caused by the tories. I will never forgive them.
Equally you can’t have a rational debate with anyone who comes out with nonsense like this. Personally I judge people not parties, Just as there are MPs in Labour/SNP/PC I can’t take seriously, there are Tories to whom I’ll pay attention when they have something to say.
+1
Richard Burgon/ Lisa Nandy Chope/Tugendhart
Can't believe they are in the same parties, I know which I listen to.
Cheddar – its all about power. He can’t get any thru parliament so this is the second prize
Whereas Sadiq did it for.......
nickc – the reason I am so vehement about this is I have seen the despair and death deliberately caused by the tories. I will never forgive them.
Should people forgive the hard working NHS/ staff complicit in the Stafford hospital scandal? Or are those deaths valued differently?
Those deaths are the result of deliberate tory policy! You accept "hard working staff" but put staff under intolerable stress where it is impossible to do their jobs and deaths will happen
NO other party pushes policies that they KNOW will result in thousands upon thousands of people dying and consider those deaths to be a price worth paying for the tax cuts they give to the rich.
So what does Stewart have to say? How can he defend what he has voted for? tens of thousands of deaths from policies he has voted for
Might be worth checking out James O'Briens podcast with him 'full disclosure' - he apparently explains his position.
Good luck with that.
I think people confuse his 'politeness' with his actions.
People are what they do not what they say.
Here is one example from today
Private prisons so a cost cutting measure by cutting staffing numbers and wages while giving money to their pals along with a punative criminal justice system leading to a death thats totally avoidable
Most other rich countries in the world the woman would probably not be in prison and if she was would be in a specialist unit properly staffed - not left alone in a cell
Deliberate policy they know will cost lives but they do not care.
This shows how venal he is.
Against equal rights and human rights for all
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24964/rory_stewart/penrith_and_the_border/divisions?policy=6703
This shows how venal he is.
Do you understand the point of opposition day motions? They are literally so that either the Tory's or Labour can print a list of things opposition MPs have voted against in the campaign literature that drops onto your doormat ever few years. Nothing more. They likely do not, nor likely ever will have any bearing on any individuals (bar a few monstrous ideological idiots on both sides of the benches) view on any subject ever. They are just just tit for tat nonsense so that folk like you can wave them like placards.
"Look" they say, "He hates you, and gay people, and working people and dogs and cats and the old...Vote for me instead, I love everybody"
Don't fall for it, TJ, you're smarter than that.
Not sure on his politics but he walked across Afghanistan so he’s got bigger balls than 99.9% of the posters on here.
Just displaying colonial spirit IMO. It fits in the mindset I mentioned. Hong Kong, India, Iran, ****stan, Afghanistan - you see a trend.
It doesn't matter what he says or what his potentially whipped voting record suggests. He chose to join the Tory party and become a member of parliament of the Tory party.
He has resigned now that it has become the worst it has been for a few decades but even when he joined it, it was hardly a party for people who actually gave a shit about people was it.
No different from Johnson.
Everyone simpered over the PM when he was on HIGNFY despite warning signs that he was a giant thunderc*nt.
Rory's 'resignation speech' was reading out boris' school report. Whilst funny, it's exactly the sort of thing ginger harry and his missus are suing the daily express for - violation of personal, private details, under GDPR etc.
Bit cavalier with the law eh? Remind you of anyone?
he walked across Afghanistan so he’s got bigger balls than 99.9% of the posters on here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM
nickc - if he had an ounce of compassion or ethics he would not have voted against equal rights and not have voted to deliberately impoverish the disabled
By voting as he did he shows his true colours.
Not sure how walking across Afghanistan gives you any qualification for the role of Mayor of London unless I'm missing something. Of more relevance is he has little connection with London as much of his career was spent overseas and his career as an MP was representing a very rural constituency in Cumbria. I would have thought that a key qualification for the role of Mayor of London is having had significant experience and involvement in the governance and leadership of our capital city.
Would you guys vote for him, if you could?
Yes, only if he is a tough guy but he is not isn't he.
Nope - as others have said, he's just an Austerity Tory who fancies parachuting into another politics job. Cathy Newman nailed it last night on C4 when she asked him his favourite London pub. The shifty expression revealed that he hasn't a clue about London.
But that’s way to **** sensible for an entrenched polarised population that like to pigeon hole everyone that disagrees with them or find a reason to blame their shit futile meaningless lives on out groups.
Looks like someone got their end away last night !
nickc – if he had an ounce of compassion or ethics he would not have voted against equal rights and not have voted to deliberately impoverish the disabled
By voting as he did he shows his true colours.
Should we write off the labour and snp MPs based on their voting records too? Because there are some easily spun half truths there.
I like Rory, he seems driven by results rather than ideology. Publicly promissed to quit if his prison reforms didnt work. Voted against Borris' government etc.