[Closed] Rogue One - spoilers

Really? That honestly surprises me. I felt they looked completely artificial and out of place.

I didn't mind the CGI characters, looked a bit off to begin with, but got used to Peter Cushing,and forgot about it after a couple of shots, the Carrie Fisher one was less good though.

Thought it was a pretty good stab really, liked the way it slotted very well into Ep4, it's as if they had that final scene planned and built the movie around it. The 'Nam shtick with the rebel troops felt a bit forced, the AT-AT were epic, loads of scenes missing from the teaser trailer. K2SO was a bit "Marvin"

Most of the rebels are British because the Americans didn't join in until the war had been going for a few years.

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Saw it yesterday and agree it is up there with the best Star Wars has to offer. It's almost like they thought of the story before they started shooting.

K2SO was a bit "Marvin"

Didn't mind the CGI Peter Cushing, my first thought was that it was a look-a-like, but Leia looked a bit bloaty.

Matt

So why did the rebels not use X-Wings against AT-ATs on Hoth?

And who were the rebel pilots referenced from Episode 4? - was hoping to see Biggs Darklighter but do not think that I did?

Just back from seeing it in 3D. Wished I'd seen the 2D version - far too blurry..

Also I found it quite boring. Not enough Jedi action.

Not enough Jedi action.

Very litte. In fact, there are no Jedis in it lol 🙂

thatscold - Member

Also I found it quite boring. Not enough Jedi action.

That would be because apart from Obi-wan in hiding, and Darth Vader, they're all supposed to be dead.

Bensales, which worries me with where Star Wars Rebels is heading... It's great having an 8year old mini me to watch the cartoons with 😉

And don't forget Yoda...

Saw it at the BFI Imax this morning. I thought it was awesome.

I did have a couple of moments where the CGI was a bit ropey, but not enough to put me off.

The dark scenes at the beginning are Gareth Edwards' style. Apparently the "assistant" director was responsible for the more "franchise-ey" bits.

Despite the obvious style differences, it didn't take away from my enjoyment.

And who were the rebel pilots referenced from Episode 4? - was hoping to see Biggs Darklighter but do not think that I did?

From io9.com: There are quite a few familiar faces in Rogue One, but one of our favorite callouts was the use of original footage from A New Hope’s Battle of Yavin sequence to resurrect Garven Dreis and Jon Vander, the Red and Gold Leader of their respective X-Wing and Y-Wing squadrons in the Alliance. The two men may have lived to fight another day at Scarif, but would ultimately perish in the Battle of Yavin.

Leia wasn't CGI. An actress named Ingvild Deila.

Edit. A further google search indicates a mix of CGI and live action.

schrickvr6 - Member
K2so reminded me of Stewie Griffin a bit.

This.

Commented the exact same thing to the friends I watched it with.

My mate loved the film. His wife slept through it. I'm hopefully seeing it later this week.

gonefishin - Member

Leia wasn't CGI. An actress named Ingvild Deila.

Edit. A further google search indicates a mix of CGI and live action.

Yeah, they basically added the dead eyes and weird glow over the top.

TBH the things that threw me a bit were the direct links into ep 4. It's in keeping with the crawl but not the feel- nothing about the rebels really feels like they're running from a bruising space battle, everyone seems a bit too chilled on the death star too... "Soon we will have the plans" "Shouldn't you get after her then?" "Er, yeah, OK". "We're a consular ship" "**** off, I literally saw you fly out of a rebel ship a minute ago" "Oh yeah"

Well I thought it was the best yet by a country mile. Now if they could remake Star Wars ep4 in the same style.......

The rebel fleet coming out of hyper space above the gate was excellent, in fact the whole battle was excellent.

Echos of Empire Strikes Back in the desperate feel.

Saw it in wide screen, 3D, start was a bit blurry at times but got used to it. Looking forward to seeing it at home in 2D.

Just back from the IMAX,

It was EPIC!

Lots of Easter eggs in their.

I meant to say... I loved the outright "the rebellion are terrorists" bleakness of it, one of the big reviews called it moral ambiguity but it's not ambiguous at all, the first time you see one of the heroes he murders one of his informants, and it's all the way up the high command- because that's just what they have to do. That's pretty bloody bleak for a star wars film, but it's totally in keeping with the corroded feel of the whole universe.

And I loved that feeling in Jyn's volunteer suicide squad, like they're the necessary but not respected evil that see the rebellion's going hot and very soon either everyone'll be dead, or there'll be a big ceremony when everyone else gets given medals or inexplicable glowing things while they get edited out of the wiki entry as an awkward truth...

(which ironically reminds me a lot of Ghost Dog- that feeling of people hard people realising their time has past. Wish we'd had more of mental space amin robot legs ghost dog tbh)

Saw this Saturday night at a local IMAX cinema, thoroughly enjoyed it, possibly up there after Empire and maybe slightly ahead of A New Hope.
I think they did a good job of giving us something new but including enough references to ensure that you knew it was part of the Star Wars cannon.
CGI Tarkin and Leia wasn't an issue to me either but the most jarring bit I found was Vadars Schwarzeneggers throw away choking line, bit strange really.
Highlights, Vadar and a corridor full of rebels, seeing some in-house Empire politics (bit like real work) and the space battle above Scarif.
Good rollicking fun.

Saw it last night in 2D with my eldest daughter, will admit to being slightly shocked that they all died - was expecting right until the end they'd get the girl off the planet... Good ending though, and I loved seeing Vader fight.

I didn't mind the CGI characters, looked a bit off to begin with, but got used to Peter Cushing,and forgot about it after a couple of shots, the Carrie Fisher one was less good though.

FWIW my eldest daughter didn't know that Peter Cushing was dead, and never noticed it was CGI until I told her afterwards. Leia did look a bit fake though.

DID they all die though?
I know it's inferred, but not explicit in 2d anyway?

This is just half-assed wonderings but there was a [i]lot[/i] of reshooting and the shape of the ending definitely changed- there's unused footage of them running across the beach with the death star plans so the whole "beam it away" thing is an addition. So that made me wonder about CGI Leia, it's so obviously a worse job than Peter Cushing and very short (the "avoid the face" tricks weren't subtle), maybe that was a late addition?

(though, it seems like I've just arbitrarily decided that all the bits that jarred were in the reshoots, maybe that's just me being a fanboi and making excuses...)

Amazing movie, absolutely loved it. The dark begining was great, the battles breathtaking in 3d, and the ending wonderful. Wow, just wow!

Anyone else think Tarkin becomes Snoke?

I know it's inferred, but not explicit in 2d anyway?

Saw it last night, it was okay. The first half needed a good twenty minutes editing out; the whole Forest Whittaker bit was pretty superfluous.

Amazing film, loved it.

My random continuity question is thus: why in episode 4 do they have the line "the Empire doesn't consider small, one man fighters to be a threat, or they'd have tighter defences" when they know full well that the vulnerability was deliberately designed into the system?

when they know full well that the vulnerability was deliberately designed into the system?

do they though? I might need to watch it again but I thought that the exhaust port flaw was a secret, passed to Jinn via her father's holographic message.

they analysed the plans and found the flaw - the empire diddnt find it ?

Just saw it.

Good not great for me. Until they get to Scarif it was a bit meh. Too much "hey here's another planet, look how great our CGI is"

Scarif scenes made up for it though. Donnie Yen was the standout throughout. The CGI Tarkin and Leia were pretty ropey. CGI faces always look too shiny

7/10

In the original Ep 4, the exhaust port flaw wasn't really explained, just that the empire didn't consider it vulnerable.

The ret-con in Rogue One is the Galen Erso deliberately introduced it, leaked the information via message that then only Jyn saw. When she did the hero's exposition bit to Director Jannick saying she knew about the flaw, the implication is they all wound up dead before he could inform the Deathstar about it.

curto80 - Member

My random continuity question is thus: why in episode 4 do they have the line "the Empire doesn't consider small, one man fighters to be a threat, or they'd have tighter defences" when they know full well that the vulnerability was deliberately designed into the system?

Because the Empire [i]don't[/i] know it's there.

(ironically because Tarkin, being a mega-****, decided to blow up the entire installation with the Death Star rather than kill or capture a couple of dozen rebels then find out exactly what they were there for. "What tape were they looking at? Let's examine that part and find out what... Oh, I blew it up? Dang. <shoots everyone present>")

IHN - Member

Saw it last night, it was okay. The first half needed a good twenty minutes editing out; the whole Forest Whittaker bit was pretty superfluous.

I think his part got pretty extensively chopped about tbh, he had lines removed but also it seems like the change in Jyn's story also reduced his part.

Film was brilliant but
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Booked tickets to see it tonight. How chuffing much? £23.48 for two, in 2D, non-executive seating!
It had better be bloody good.

Why does the main character speak Queen's English?

She went to private school in Birmingham

@ Makkag, Northwind

No what I mean is at the Rebel Mission Briefing in IV they make a big thing of saying the "Empire doesn't consider small one-man fighters to be a threat". It makes it sound like they discovered the vulnerability accidentally.

What they could have said is "one of our guys designed this thing and deliberately put a vulnerability into it that can be exploited by an X-wing". The whole surviving Rebel Council knows this information because Jinn told them all.

Oh and not to go on about it but I always though it was implied that the destruction of Alderaan was the first time they'd used the Death Star ("Dantooine is too remote to make an effective demonstration of this station's capabilities but don't worry, we'll deal with your rebel friends soon enough").

She went to private school in Birmingham

The character or the actor? 😉

i was disappointed not to see the Brave Bothans dying.... maybe the 2 colliding Star Destroyers that destroyed the Force Field gate then vanished landed on them???

I think the bothan thing is going to drive trekkies mad for years- that's the second death star, no bothans were harmed in the making of this film

Just saw it this evening and thought it was brilliant! Really liked the overall feel of the film. Did think Peter Cushing looked slightly weird (clumsy CGI) and Carrie Fisher more so but it didn't spoil it for me.
The girlfriend was less impressed however...

Got free mince pies and hot chocolate in our local Odeon, which was nice 😀

I thought that the reference to the female Jedi was a reference to Leia as it was the (ex?) senator Organa who said it - he being her adopted father. If this is the case, then when Luke tells Leia she has the power too as she is his sister (Return of the Jedi), are we to now assume she's been keeping it from him? For me, that was the only bit that didn't make sense. The only other minor criticism was that we didn't get the DAAAAAA! and the rolling narrative at the start.

Other than the above, I really liked it. I liked the Forrest Whittaker character as the slightly psychotic rebel faction leader who had split from the mainstream rebellion. It added a lot in terms of the terrorist to freedom fighter spectrum and the problems that causes.

One other thing, though, Vader's voice was not quite as sinister as other films. Not Kenneth Williams, but not quite as booming.

Other than the above, I really liked it. I liked the Forrest Whittaker character as the slightly psychotic rebel faction leader who had split from the mainstream rebellion. It added a lot in terms of the terrorist to freedom fighter spectrum and the problems that causes.

I thought that the reference to the female Jedi was a reference to Leia

I thought they were referring to her as getting the plans to the Jedi. "You need someone you can trust" "I would trust her with my life"

Guess that means Ashoka is really dead 🙁

watch the older trailers to see what was missing.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2016/dec/19/rogue-one-star-wars-reshoots-trailers

aa - Star Wars Rebels plays out Ashoka's fate in Series 2....

You lot need to start watching more kids tv 🙂