Forum menu
Rishi! Sunak!
 

Rishi! Sunak!

Posts: 23596
Full Member
 

Can't fact check this one away though


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 6:49 pm
Posts: 16527
Full Member
 

I must say I laughed at Starmer and Davey referring to Sunak as a "squatter in number 10"

He's the sort that would be really p*ssed at hearing that description I suspect. Lol

Meanwhile Farage is being such a tease with Tice of Reform UK, will he, wont he? 😆


 
Posted : 04/01/2024 7:24 pm
Posts: 31093
Full Member
 

So… 2024 is going to be boring and frustrating in equal measures, isn’t it. 9 months of shouting at the TV/radio as Sunak attempts to gaslight us. I have a feeling few voters are going to thank him for a campaign running through the summer, when it could have been done and dusted in May.


 
Posted : 04/01/2024 8:15 pm
Posts: 16527
Full Member
 

^^ I agree, I also suspect it's going to be a really nasty/ dirty election with the Tories and their press throwing everything they can at Starmer in a last ditch attempt to stay in power at any cost.

I hate to say it but I can see violence on the horizon too with MP's potentially being targeted by far right nutters goaded into action by the Tories/Reform UK.


 
Posted : 04/01/2024 8:21 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

#SexistShaun is trending, all lil' rishi needs is another of the lockdown party ****s sticking his foot in it and reminding everyone about partygate. Nice to know that if you have boobs and a bum you are no longer allowed to have a political opionion.


 
Posted : 04/01/2024 9:40 pm
Poopscoop and Poopscoop reacted
Posts: 34535
Full Member
 

Sunak was always going to wait for the last possible moment (thats not actually in the middle of winter) a massive flip in yhe polls for whatever reason and he might call a snap election, but tight now his plan is just to sit & wait & hope for a gradual tightening of the polls   or a miracle


 
Posted : 04/01/2024 10:01 pm
gibby and gibby reacted
Posts: 46093
Free Member
 

Isn't there a US election in the autumn as well?
I wonder if that has any bearing.


 
Posted : 04/01/2024 10:09 pm
Posts: 7128
Free Member
 

It's a little thankyou to the losing team, screw out of the system as much as you can and increase the redundancy payments.


 
Posted : 04/01/2024 10:49 pm
Posts: 27603
Free Member
 

Sunak will play on April Tax cuts afforded by better than expected inflation & interest rate cuts and claim that as his work, and also possibly offer to cut taxes in April 2025 during the Autumn statement thinking its an issue Labour couldn't afford to fulfil when they win the election, not worried about a shameless U Turn if somehow the Tories scrape through.

One of many ways to sabotage Labour on the way out.


 
Posted : 04/01/2024 10:55 pm
AD, Poopscoop, kimbers and 7 people reacted
Posts: 7751
Free Member
 

Another example of the little fella's lack of political nous...he was in Nottinghamshire - Mansfield, specifically - yesterday (Thursday) and could have visited some of the areas badly affected by flooding.
Surprise, surprise - he didn't; wasted photo op there rish!
No concerned face, no words of support.
More interested in supporting ben bradley - his polyp - and criticising Nottingham City Council which just happens to be Labour controlled.
He really is pathetic - and pointless.


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 11:54 am
Poopscoop and Poopscoop reacted
Posts: 34535
Full Member
 

Sunak only does carefully managed interactions with the public

because if he just meets with them at random....

https://twitter.com/josephtiman/status/1743242319527088458

deny the county a GE bounce...

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1743289251918225528


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 4:24 pm
binners, salad_dodger, kelvin and 3 people reacted
Posts: 34535
Full Member
 

this is also very amusing.......

https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1743222589344936401


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 4:31 pm
Posts: 31093
Full Member
 

They need to be careful with that approach... because real tax cuts might well be announced just before an election, so the Tories can campaign on policies they never have to deal with themselves to try and minimise loses. They can promise the earth if opposition is inevitable... challenge Labour to oppose things that'll never happen.

"Free owls for everyone... Labour want to stop you getting your free owl".


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 4:37 pm
Posts: 34535
Full Member
 

I think the point is they are deliberately targeting the frothing anti-tax Tory membership that visit conhome, just sewing general unrest amongst tories
though I think Labour wouldnt be sad if they forced Sunak into a Trussesque unfunded tax cut bonaza


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 5:19 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 8021
Full Member
 

because real tax cuts might well be announced just before an election

Or in the Spring budget. Predictions are some "healthy" cuts there.

They can promise the earth if opposition is inevitable… challenge Labour to oppose things that’ll never happen.

Or just backtrack on the promise if they do. Think it was 1997 where one of the ministers involved in the spending plans said they wouldnt have kept to it if they had managed to win and it was just a trap for labour.


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 5:37 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 31093
Full Member
 

All good points, from both of you.


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 6:25 pm
Posts: 33201
Full Member
 

I'm waiting for the Tories to agree a generous multi year pay deal with the junior doctors that the next government won't be able to afford to honour....


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 7:13 pm
Posts: 34535
Full Member
 

by-election claxon

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67895246


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 7:13 pm
Posts: 57399
Full Member
 

I’ve just watched  the interview with Lil Rishi on BBC North West, during his hit’n’run stage managed ‘meet the public’ charade in Stockport

He really is like Talky the Toaster off Red Dwarf.

He was asked about banana-headed dimwit James Daly’s comments about ‘crap parents’, he was asked about child poverty rates in the North West, he was asked about the high tax burden, he was asked about the cost of living crisis 

But on being asked each question, he just completely ignored it and just repeated the same pre-prepared soundbites like a malfunctioning droid 

He makes Theresa May look spontaneous and engaging 


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 7:41 pm
Posts: 31093
Full Member
 

7C59C4A4-C36B-40E5-A687-2AC5A047DDC0Cold War Steve


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 8:04 pm
Posts: 832
Full Member
 

Not Cold War Steve, but looking like it is. from the official photo of the visit in Altrincham Today.
Rishi, the country is behind you, looking either stunned or despairing

IMG_0359
https://twitter.com/altrinchamtoday/status/1743252892784435577?s=46&t=lTcFSBU-twDXB4KL3Bm_eQ


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 9:40 pm
kimbers, kelvin, kimbers and 1 people reacted
Posts: 34535
Full Member
 

the Tory commentators & MPs piling in on Skidmore is a sign they are very rattled about kicking off the new year with another Tory crisis 


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 11:02 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 16210
Free Member
 

by-election claxon
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67895246

That might be the last Tory I have any time for.


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 11:07 pm
Clover and Clover reacted
Posts: 8021
Full Member
 

Rishi, the country is behind you, looking either stunned or despairing

Isnt that from inside the cafe?
The one which was reserved a meet and greet with tory party members.


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 11:21 pm
Riksbar and Riksbar reacted
Posts: 832
Full Member
 

The expression on the faces of the Prime Minister and his well-fed, shiny-haired, Tory-boy minder shows how the Toraidh party think they are doing. Everybody else’s expression says how they are actually doing.
IMG_0360


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 11:25 pm
Posts: 15555
Free Member
 

kicking off the new year with another Tory crisis

You'd think that would be business as usual by now and they'd be used to it!

That might be the last Tory I have any time for.

I thought the same thing when reading it... at least a noble reason to resign... unless that's an excuse before some kiddy fiddling or money laundering accusations come to light!


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 11:30 pm
Posts: 8021
Full Member
 

I thought the same thing when reading it… at least a noble reason to resign… unless that’s an excuse before some kiddy fiddling or money laundering accusations come to light!

i think it is best to try and give them the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise we end up with "all politicians are the same" and the complete turds getting away with it.
Amongst those who have commented favourable is Caroline Lucas so does seem like he was a committed environmentalist.
At worse I think it might be he got offered a job at the next parliament and when he heard Sunak was going to keep going decided he couldnt be arsed keeping his majority up.


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 11:40 pm
Posts: 8469
Full Member
 

I imagine the centre right wing of the Tory party must be pretty demoralised right now.


 
Posted : 05/01/2024 11:53 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 15555
Free Member
 

i think it is best to try and give them the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise we end up with “all politicians are the same” and the complete turds getting away with it.
Amongst those who have commented favourable is Caroline Lucas so does seem like he was a committed environmentalist.
At worse I think it might be he got offered a job at the next parliament and when he heard Sunak was going to keep going decided he couldnt be arsed keeping his majority up.

I agree, I was just being (reasonably I think) pessimistic, with a bit of dark humour thrown in.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 12:18 am
Posts: 34535
Full Member
 

along with Truss, kweratang, raab & Patel  he was one of the authors of Britannia unchained.....

Sunak & the Tories worried about 2024 starting so badly https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1743342659878404461?t=SUmJJCVR0Gn0CkdhJDtRoA&s=19


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 12:19 am
Posts: 16210
Free Member
 

i think it is best to try and give them the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise we end up with “all politicians are the same” and the complete turds getting away with it.
Amongst those who have commented favourable is Caroline Lucas so does seem like he was a committed environmentalist.

I work in the industry and he's well respected.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 12:30 am
dissonance, kelvin, dissonance and 1 people reacted
Posts: 57399
Full Member
 

I was quite surprised it was one of the Britannia Unchained mob who’d resigned on a point of principle, as I didn’t think they had any

If even they are abandoning the sinking ship, Sunak really is in trouble 


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 1:30 am
mattyfez, Poopscoop, Riksbar and 3 people reacted
Posts: 16527
Full Member
 

The poor little mite just can't catch a break can he?😁


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 2:20 am
Posts: 15555
Free Member
 

I take back what I said, Tory MP Skidmore is credited as having part in the book of britania unchained.

A) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained

B) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Britannia-Unchained-Global-Lessons-Prosperity/dp/1137032235/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1KBL7I5DQ703E&keywords=britannia+unchained&qid=1704507469&sprefix=britania+unchained%2Caps%2C61&sr=8-1

His name is litteraly on the front cover.

I should have known better with him having a name like Skidmore... more the fool me for giving the benefit of the doubt.

My profound appologies.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 3:19 am
Clover, Riksbar, Riksbar and 1 people reacted
Posts: 20666
Full Member
Posts: 15555
Free Member
 

They are all just utterly evil bastards.

I mean, fair play for making a load of dosh, but how do they sleep at night? I know heroin dealers with more integrity than this lot.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 3:36 am
Poopscoop and Poopscoop reacted
Posts: 8021
Full Member
 

I take back what I said, Tory MP Skidmore is credited as having part in the book of britania unchained.

That doesnt mean they didnt resign for good reasons.
For example whilst I disagree with David Davis on many matters he is often a good defender of civil liberties and data protection. He is what I consider to be a proper libertarian who actually accepts the consequences of their position in that it means people might do things he dislikes vs the standard right wing "libertarian" who thinks it means they can do what they want and everyone else has to comply.
For several matters eg brexit I think he is wrong but doesnt mean I think he is corrupt/shagging kids etc but just ended up with the wrong solution to the problem.
So I would go with thinking he did it on principle even if thats about the only one he shares with me.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 3:59 am
ernielynch, frankconway, Clover and 7 people reacted
Posts: 15555
Free Member
 

So I would go with thinking he did it on principle even if thats about the only one he shares with me.

I'd be inclined to agree with you..but, and it's a big but... it seems like a very strange hill to die on, to me.

That also suggests to me that he decided to jump ship as a damage limitation excersise, and this is the path of least resistance for him, to me that sounds like a far more realitsic explanation in the face of electoral wipe-out.

I mean, If he really gave a crap about net-zero carbon pledges, he would have resigned the second the Conservative party as a whole, flushed that idea down the toilet.

But he didn't.

So the natural question is, why now?

And the logical answer is...he know's his game is probably up.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 4:15 am
Posts: 2003
Full Member
 

Isn’t there a US election in the autumn as well?
I wonder if that has any bearing.

It's free bile and given current form you'd have to think a lightbulb went on in some tory schemers head.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 9:02 am
Posts: 57399
Full Member
 

I mean, If he really gave a crap about net-zero carbon pledges, he would have resigned the second the Conservative party as a whole, flushed that idea down the toilet.

I can’t believe I’m defending a Tory, particularly one of the swivel-eyed arxh-Brexiteers, but….

the Parliamentary vote on the awarding of these new oil and gas drilling licences is on Monday. So he’s timed his resignation and vocal assertion of the reason why, so as to cause maximum damage to Sunak and his anti-green, pro-fossil fuel agenda. I’m sure he’s hoping this might encourage a few more to vote against it

You can kind of see how it might work. Not all Tory voters are as mad as these ultra-free-market, climate-change-denying zealots.

There are many in green and pleasant rural seats, who the Lib Dems are presently courting, who do believe that climate change is very real, and net zero is not part of some ‘woke agenda’.

Not least as their house might presently be under 2ft of floodwater. Could the timing be any worse? Not a great look, is it? Has your house just flooded? Never mind… let’s drill for more fossil fuel

It just proves, once again, how politically clueless Sunak is. No wonder he won’t be visiting any flooded areas. The headlines will write themselves

These new licenses will do nothing for UK energy security (as claimed) and will just line corporate pockets while fuelling climate change. Most people can see that as the reality of the situation and will have that in mind when they vote this year


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 10:54 am
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 20666
Full Member
 

https://twitter.com/ACJSissons/status/1743577144616263917?t=qVt1I3XZYglbRH8vJT98MA&s=19

I assume that the Government will arrest the water and take it all away for daring to block the important roads put there for important drivers.

It's what they'd do with a Just Stop Oil protester...


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 11:21 am
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 7842
Full Member
 

Wait is it not foreign water? Stopping British people going to work and disrupting our traditions.

Stop the clouds (big or small).


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 11:36 am
Posts: 833
Free Member
 

Send all the water to Rwanda? That's what I want my taxes spent on, not having it washing out into the channel and helping keep all those immigrant boats afloat.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 12:01 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 7128
Free Member
 

The young are less likely to vote and more likely to vote Labour. An October election makes Tory sense as hundreds of thousands will have gone off to study and are all-consumed with freshers' shenanigans. So, if you have 18yr old kids, make sure they register for a postal vote and/or register where they are studying, and VOTE!


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 12:01 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
 vd
Posts: 263
Full Member
 

Bit like Brexit, then, when a lot of the young were too busy frolicking in fields, etc to vote.

I have to say that in much of my experience - admittedly middle class - most of the climate angst is from parents worrying about their children’s future - whilst for every kid thinking about the future, there’s at least one more bent on short break holiday flights, consuming, and with little appetite to recycle.

Unfortunately political engagement/awareness is not the generational issue many suggest.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 12:14 pm
Page 143 / 233