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Well if you want to loose it, point it in my direction as I need to put a stone on, for my channel swimm in September. I am failing to put weight on, as on a SEE FOOD AND EAT IT diet, but still training and buring it all off.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 3:55 pm
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Just got my fitness pal, got to be worth a shot. Since mini Transapp came along its been a bitch to lose the last stone of baby fat, (yes I am a bloke...!)


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 5:09 pm
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You're not supposed to eat the baby... 😯


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 5:11 pm
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Tracey and WCA = great efforts, you both look great!

Simonm - that's exactly why its such a good app. Makes you question your choices! Mine downfall was a costa flat white. Given those up now!!!


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 5:29 pm
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Eat less shit [s]and exercise[/s] more, it's easy

FTFY


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 5:45 pm
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+1 to Tracey on Weigh****chers
Was 20 stone 4 in October last year and am now 14 stone 6 with a bit more to go.
Weigh****chers has been great and the iphone app has really helped but when i get down to my goal weight and i am happy will stop paying for WW and use myfitnesspal to stay on top of it
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Posted : 16/07/2012 6:08 pm
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haha if we're doing before and afters I just had a look back at some old photos.. **** me I was bad! In the top one I was about 23 stone and a 46" waist, now just under 12 and 32" with a bit more to go (my manboobs are still there a bit, small but perfectly formed 😆 )

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..so yeah stop eating loads and do more exercise! I've been to a gym twice since I started and haven't gone on any type of fad diet, just rarely eating takeaway and other rubbish like that.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 6:23 pm
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I've lost 8lb logging what I eat on myfitnesspal, exercising more and including strength/resistance training once a week. I try to stick to 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fat, and keep junk food to a minimum - I allow myself one indulgence day a week though!


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 1:34 pm
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Eat less of everything?


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 3:37 pm
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Massive respect to you guys... (****ing hell _tom_!!!)


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 3:47 pm
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**** me! I've been beating myself up because I have put on 1.2kg over the past couple of weeks, still only 71kg. Perspective I think! 😳

Good effort all you peeps. _tom_ Chapeau sir.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 3:54 pm
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tom, pridds.... i'm incredibly impressed. i hope you kept a pair of jeans for the classic 'look at me in my old jeans' photo? 😀


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:00 pm
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Wow tom impressive!!

liked your hair long though 😆


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:03 pm
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liked your hair long though

gawwwwd, your such a lesbinum!

i must admit i like the sound of your small but perfectly formed man-boobs 😈

he

boobs


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:07 pm
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Why has there been no mention of THE DIET yet? Or is it now old hat?

Riding doesn’t do it on its own, and with young family / work difficult to get to gym (and would rather scratch my eyes out).

Riding alon should do it, of course no matter how much riding you do, if you continue to eat sh!t/too much you will never loose weight. Having said that I find that doing 30 mins 3 to 4 times a week is more beneficial than 1 or 2 2 hour rides.

Of course other methods are going to your local nursery/school and picking up the worst D&V bug you can find, that should see you loose a stone in a week 😆


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:14 pm
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THE DIET

What the Idontrefundmydisappointedclients diet?


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:18 pm
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I thought that the commonly excepted rule was that you're on the iDiet or you're an iDiot.

I'm with the latter.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:23 pm
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It's great to hear so many people using MFP or alternative to loose weight.
Could the smartphone inadvertently become a tool in the fight against obesity?


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:33 pm
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of course no matter how much riding you do, if you continue to eat sh!t/too much you will never loose weight.

Question: I'm commuting regularly - twice a week, 18km each way, so averaging about 72km a week for the past few months.

So if I eat my recommended calorie limit from MyFitnessPal (1950kcals + whatever exercise allows) and keep my "macros" balanced (MFP recommends 55% carb, 30% fat, 15% protein) then is that enough?

I ask cos I am still eating "sh!t" 😳

breakfast today was sausage and egg roll (just sausage when not on bike)
lunch: bacon, brie & cranberry panini from cafe, plus pack of crisps
snack: caramel flapjack
dinner: something vaguely healthy with some meat & veg

I'm still under my limits though. So is that okay?
Or do I need to dive into the full carb-free vegan fruitarian thing?

Seem to be losing weight okay on crap so far.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:36 pm
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Could the smartphone inadvertently become a tool in the fight against obesity?

I doubt it because its just another tool to help people be fat and lazy.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:37 pm
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Phil, very very gay! 8)

How do you know my boobs are perfectly formed! 😳


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:38 pm
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Could the smartphone inadvertently become a tool to help anorexics?

PrettyThin would suggest 'Yes'.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:40 pm
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Graham S - Depends on your definition of Sh!t doesnt it.

Some people eat fried bacon egg sandwiches for breakfast, followed by McD's for lunch followed by a processed microwave meal or curry take away with x pints of larger etc every day. All interspersed with cake and chocolate.

I used to have chocolate snacks in the day time, now I have fruit instead, which actually makes me feel better. I also drink much less than I used to. My weight now remains quite stable without trying, I just have to eat more if I exercise 🙂


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:42 pm
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Could the smartphone inadvertently become a tool in the fight against obesity?

MFP is currently top of the Fitness category in App Store. Likewise on Android I believe. Not sure how many users it has but certainly seems incredibly popular.

Likewise a friend of mine, who is quite overweight, has recently got into running, mainly using iPhone apps and in her own words has gone from not being able to run the length of herself to happily doing 3 mile runs. She is currently working towards the 10k mark.

So... maybe.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:42 pm
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Graham S - Depends on your definition of Sh!t doesnt it.
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Yeah. That's why I ask.

Stuff I eat is generally "made", not "processed", but it's not the healthiest. I'm sure I could swap my roll and sausage for a raw lentil bar or whatever the hell thin people eat - but I [i]like[/i] my roll and sausage and I'm meeting my targets so is it doing any real harm?


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 4:45 pm
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i must admit i like the sound of your small but perfectly formed man-boobs

Organise another Swinley sexy-party and I'm sure we can come to some kind of arrangement 😉


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 5:36 pm
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Phil, very very gay!

Can you be a little bit gay? I always thought you were or weren't, you know, like it was sort of a bi....

Oh no wait a minute I think I've answered my own question 😳


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 6:44 pm
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Stuff I eat is generally "made", not "processed", but it's not the healthiest. I'm sure I could swap my roll and sausage for a raw lentil bar or whatever the hell thin people eat - but I like my roll and sausage and I'm meeting my targets so is it doing any real harm?

I dunno really, back in the real world, it makes sense to me to eat mostly healthily but not to get so obsessive that you never touch things you enjoy because they're 'bad'. I mostly just ride a lot and eat normally and it works for me. If I tried to follow the weird dietary obsessives on this forum, I suspect I'd lose weight mostly as my brain melted and ran down my nose and out of ears...

I'm really uneasy with all the weight loss obsessing and compulsive exercise stuff on here, it seems really quite unhealthy and actually counter productive in the sense that it implies extreme diets and obsessive training are 'the answer', which is off-putting and triggers stuff like the 'raw lentil bar' comment above.

But maybe I'm just being over sensitive.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 6:55 pm
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If I tried to follow the weird dietary obsessives ... I'd lose weight mostly as my brain melted and ran down my nose

Stick your tongue out, brain is low GI.

'The Answer' is to eat sensibly from as many fresh ingredients as possible whilst exercising daily. IMO.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 7:02 pm
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'The Answer' is to eat sensibly from as many fresh ingredients as possible whilst exercising daily. IMO.

So that's sort of my question: is 1950kcals of lentils, sprouts, tomatoes and cabbage [i]better[/i] (in weight loss terms) than 1950kcals of bread roll, sausage, egg, bacon etc (assuming both can hit the same balance of carbs/fat/protein)?


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 8:01 pm
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http://www.mynetdiary.com/

lost 7stone in just under a year.

Means I an get out on my bike again after 10yrs without instantly buckling wheels!


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 8:44 pm
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Hmmm.. That looks likes lot like MyFitnessPal except it costs money.


 
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I think the answer, in purely weight loss terms, is no, it won't make any appreciable difference.

But if you only eat processed 'bad' foods you are going to be much hungrier, and maybe have a slight issue with salt intake, etc.

I did do the Dukan diet for a few weeks last year, and yes I did lose some weight, about 20 lbs over course of 6 weeks. The high protein meals really did make you feel full for longer. But it also meant I ate a lot less garbage, crisps, biscuits, etc which I think was the real cause of the weightloss.


 
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Better in weight loss terms... probably not. Better in general terms... certainly.

I also believe you can eat pretty good bread, sausages, bacon and eggs, but it is easier to eat too much of them.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:02 pm
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To be honest, I think a lot of it's common sense. For example, I like fishfingers, but I know the breadcrumbs are unhealthy, so I simply strip them off and feed them to my dog, which leaves the fishfinger in a natural, fresh healthy state, just as when it was caught by the fishermen. I've sort of reversed the processing.

Similarly, if I can't get fresh bread, I sometimes buy pain au chocolat and take the chocolate bit out so it's just 'pain', which is French for bread. Same with potatoes, like chicken, throw away the unhealthy, fatty skin and just eat the insides raw..

One thing I do take issue with is the idea that you should exercise daily. I know you guys are experts, but I find if I do that, I get really tired, which is counter productive as your body stores fat to compensate. So mostly I'll take recovery days and eat well then to bulk up for further training.

But like I said, mostly I think it's just common sense and logical thinking. You can eat processed foods, but you need to de-process them sometimes. HTH.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 10:14 pm
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You're missing a trick BWD... you can re-process some of the left over products. Several pieces of 'chocolate' can be crafted into a banana (careful it doesn't look like a turd though). Cadbury's already do this with the egg and Terry has done likewise with the orange.

Also, don't be scared of substitution... it's viable to swap kettle bell workouts with kettle chips; what do you get if you take the n-u out of chin-ups??


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 10:50 pm
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Re: the obsesssive comments above, I lost 2 stone in 3 months without being obsessive about anything, just a sensible diet, cutting out crap and getting moderate exercise.


 
Posted : 18/07/2012 8:16 am
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You're missing a trick BWD... you can re-process some of the left over products. Several pieces of 'chocolate' can be crafted into a banana (careful it doesn't look like a turd though). Cadbury's already do this with the egg and Terry has done likewise with the orange.

You're just being silly now. Breakfast was 32g of dried lentils, sprinkled over raw - peeled obviously - potatoes, with a glass of celery juice on the side. I also deprocessed an egg by removing the unhealthy gunge in the middle and eating the crunchy, calcium-rich goodness on the outside. Like I said, there's no need to take things to extremes, it's all common sense.

Lunch will consist of deprocessed fishfingers and the stuffing from some stuffed olives, I'll throw the unhealthy olives themselves away, and the carboard peel from a packet of cereal. Again, I'll deprocess by ignoring the contents.


 
Posted : 18/07/2012 9:08 am
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In exercise terms, I'll be doing a Taiwanese variation on Tabitha intervals on my rowing machine followed by a six-hour run staying constantly in zone 4b, since my Travelcard isn't valid further out.

With this simple, no hassle combination of diet and training, I have lost roughly 634.32g of bad fat in the last 23 days along with only 7.07g of good fat.


 
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😀


 
Posted : 18/07/2012 9:29 am
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😆 BWD. quality.


 
Posted : 18/07/2012 9:33 am
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This thread has got me back on track with MFP. Thought I had a good day yesterday especially with one hour spin and one hour swim. Then looked at the calories in an ITSU chicken potsu!! Makes you think twice about what are the healthy options. The frozen Yog was a bit of a shock too! Result, weight unchanged, lessons learned.


 
Posted : 18/07/2012 9:37 am
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staying constantly in zone 4b, since my Travelcard isn't valid further out.
😆

Can you please write a quick crib sheet for me? I know it's all common sense but I struggle with my shoe laces (even the elastic ones I got with TriAwesomenessMonthly, they're what the pros wear) cheers. Maybe you could write a book?


 
Posted : 18/07/2012 9:39 am
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Many lols at BadlyWiredDog. 😆

Makes you think twice about what are the healthy options.

Yeah I think that is the biggest benefit for me. Trying to hit the calories (and macros) target means I'm just thinking a bit more about what goes in my gob.

Plus it means I enjoy my cycling days even more as I know it means I can eat more 😀

(thought the MFP calculations are a bit overly generous there I think - I tend to edit them lower)


 
Posted : 18/07/2012 9:42 am
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Day#3 - Calorie counting using that App suggested above is fantastic. Can decide to have that glass or red wine or not based on fact. 12 stone 3lbs, after starting on sunday at 12stone 4lbs.. the key will not be putting that back on over the weekends festival trip.


 
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