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Below the belt PP - below the belt 😉


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 4:02 pm
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Below the belt PP – below the belt

only for the priests


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 4:03 pm
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I’d happily deface, destroy or burn someone else’s property if it was displayed in such a deliberate way as to provoke me

Again, what kind of nutter would think this was aimed at them?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 4:37 pm
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Well we have one forumite outed, any other takers?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 4:44 pm
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Well we have one forumite outed,

That's nearly as provocative as putting a sticker on a van...

I'm assuming you take delight in 'outing' anyone's personal business. I'm looking forward to the gay, Tory, estate agent, kayaker and trans outing threads you start....


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 5:31 pm
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The Van Man thought it was a little bit funny - in a pitying kind of way for the God bother-er.

I surprised no-one has yet picked up on the fact I mentioned it wasn't a T5 van. Has this been replaced by T6 smugness already?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 5:43 pm
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T5 is a poverty van these days.

What sort of things would meet that criteria?

Nazi flags, racial slurs, sectarian nonsense.

Again, what kind of nutter would think this was aimed at them?

A religious nutter.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 5:45 pm
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Driven by heathens no doubt


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 5:46 pm
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god is not great. Religion poisons everything.

….as does a fanatical hatred of it.

Simple derisive contempt, however...  😂


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 5:50 pm
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I have read up a fair amount on quite a few religions

And apparently not really understood any of it 😉


 
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Depends. I’d happily deface, destroy or burn someone else’s property if it was displayed in such a deliberate way as to provoke me. It might be illegal but illegal does not equal wrong just like legal does not equal right.

Deranged. This is a troll, or internet hard man, right?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 5:55 pm
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Most of the religions I have read up on start in deserts where you are likely to die if you eat the wrong stuff because it will be rotten. This is why you should avoid pork in some religions and shell fish can be a bit iffy in others. There is normally initially some stuff about being nice to people and hoping they will be nice to you.

The religions seem to start as basic life and health guides but then need some extra power to back them up. It is a bit like with kids when 'Because I said so' stops working you have to up the stakes to 'I will tell your mother/father' and ends up as 'Do this or God will strike you down in flames!'

Then once you have invoked the fear of God it is pretty much a free for all. The key thing is to be different to the other guys otherwise they get to control what 'God' says instead of you. Remember that they will be doing the same thing with their followers. At this point you have the choice of smiling and pretending they don't exist / need to gain wisdom or declare war on the blasphemers and spend the rest of humanity trying to kill them so they understand yours is the true benevolent God.


 
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Deranged. This is a troll, or internet hard man, right?

Why? You think just because something is legal it makes it morally right? Likewise if something is illegal it is morally wrong?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 6:01 pm
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It's far more complicated than that, WCA.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 6:05 pm
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so isnt it attaching importance to symbols that is the wrong?
Its not like its a "danger minefield" sign


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 7:54 pm
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It’s clearly a minefield 🙂


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 7:56 pm
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[i]It’s far more complicated than that, WCA.[/i]

Are you sure? when you remove the rhetoric and 'belief' it seems pretty close to most things I have seen


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 8:06 pm
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Send 'em both on holiday together to Riyadh and see if it has a salutory effect on their behaviour.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 8:31 pm
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Its not a fish its a vagina turned on its side , it was an ancient fertility symbol .
Something else the god botherers nicked .


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:21 pm
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its a vagina turned on its side

but with legs


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:24 pm
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Every one I've seen had legs ....


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:30 pm
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Every one I’ve seen had legs ….

I'm sure if you google hard enough


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:33 pm
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That’s nearly as provocative as putting a sticker on a van…

I’m assuming you take delight in ‘outing’ anyone’s personal business. I’m looking forward to the gay, Tory, estate agent, kayaker and trans outing threads you start….

Eh? What the hell are you jabbering on about?

I was referring to Rene59's rather ambiguous comment so if anything they appear to have outed themselves as an easily offended nutter that would destroy property if "provoked".

Peoples personal lives are none of my concern, I'd like to think I'm more tolerant than most on here (including some of the ones that like to think they shit rainbows) and would never 'out' someone. Well, not until they make their personal business someone else's business (like, for example, vandalising their property, harassment or hate speech) and then they deserve what they get.

Hope that clarifies.


 
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I might be a nutter but I'm not easily offended. I was just pointing out that Cougar's statement that

Defacing someone else’s property is clearly wrong whatever your ‘logic’ in doing so.

isn't true. There could be situations where it is fine. Eg someone playing sectarian music very loudly in the garden next door. Perfectly acceptable to destroy their property (music player). It might be illegal to do so, but it wouldn't be wrong. Someone sticking disgusting racist posters up on their windows. Perfectly acceptable to put a brick through it, it would get you into trouble with the law but it wouldn't be wrong.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:56 pm
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Perfectly acceptable to destroy their property (music player). It might be illegal to do so, but it wouldn’t be wrong. Someone sticking disgusting racist posters up on their windows. Perfectly acceptable to put a brick through it, it would get you into trouble with the law but it would be right.

Only if you decide to ignore any of the other options available to changing that behaviour. Going straight to violence seems to be a fairly extreme position.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:59 pm
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Clearly you've never lived next door to such people.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:59 pm
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You think just because something is legal it makes it morally right? Likewise if something is illegal it is morally wrong?

Criminal Damage is both illegal and morally wrong.

What was your point again?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 10:19 pm
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Legal and moral are not synonymous.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 10:24 pm
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They both appear to be bellends and they deserve each other

Nope, only one of them is. I’ve seen plenty of cars with Darwin fish on, none appear to have been defaced by some self-righteous knob.
Now, if someone had stuck a Darwin fish on the back of the touchy Christian’s car, he might well be within his rights to get pissy with it, and seek to strike the perpetrator down with furious anger.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 10:36 pm
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But surely their ‘god’ thing would do that for them, no? 🤔


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 10:41 pm
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But surely their ‘god’ thing would do that for them, no?

Sadly, that’s more of an Old Testament deal.

Which is a pity as I love a good smiting....I have a list and everything.

Nowadays, we just piss about with peoples Televisions in the middle of the night on account of it being more mysterious and that.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 10:48 pm
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🙂


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 11:58 pm
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Nowadays, we just piss about with peoples Televisions in the middle of the night on account of it being more mysterious and that.

Mind praying for my neighbours stereo to clap out? I won't be offended if you do.

Rene, I did caveat my statement. TBH going for the nuclear option straight away is rather extreme but then I'd happily smash every drum and flute in the west of Scotland if it meant a bit of peace. Still, comes under hate speech so easy to deal with in ways that won't get yourself in front of a beak.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 12:06 am
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But surely their ‘god’ thing would do that for them, no?

Well that's the problem isn't it? I mean, he's jealous but merciful.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 12:06 am
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Is now the appropriate time for a meme?

Blasphemy


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 12:13 am
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Is putting a fish with legs on your bumper really a dig at purveyors of fairies at the bottom of the garden or is it just a declaration of you being down with natural selection? See also the miriad of March if progress iterations (T5 drivers, I’m looking at you).

Anyway - the real scumbags are the wazzocks with the baby on board signs. ‘Well, thanks for the heads up - I was going to swerve violently and push your car into a ditch but now I know you have an ickle wickle human in the back I’ll hold off’. Tossers the lot of em. Tailgaters in German estates with baby on board signs (they exist) will be the first against the wall.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 12:52 am
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There could be situations where it is fine. Eg someone playing sectarian music very loudly in the garden next door. Perfectly acceptable to destroy their property

That is very much a matter for debate, I believe some thought has been put into the topic over the centuries.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 1:03 am
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Anyway – the real scumbags are the wazzocks with the baby on board signs. ‘Well, thanks for the heads up – I was going to swerve violently and push your car into a ditch but now I know you have an ickle wickle human in the back I’ll hold off’. Tossers the lot of em.

They are there in case of an accident si the emergency services know there are children in the vehicle.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 11:29 am
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They are there in case of an accident si the emergency services know there are children in

Don’t be daft. If that was the case, why are they displayed on the rear window? They would be placed on the access door side windows and there would be multiples in case one was damaged in the crash.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 11:43 am
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So a paramedic/fireperson turning up to a car crash won't look for children if there is no "Live human veal in transit" sticker?


 
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They are there in case of an accident si the emergency services know there are children in the vehicle.

I have heard that as a justification, but I'm told by emergency services people that they always check anyway, which is pretty obvious.

The real reason they exist is actually rather interesting. Someone made the stickers, then people bought the stickers purely through identifying with the message. Like, 'hey, I have a kid in my car! I'll get the sticker!' It's amazing what you can get people to buy.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 11:53 am
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It’s amazing what you can get people to buy.

Vinyl stick family Mk.1 was a direct successor to "Shit Happens".


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 11:56 am
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Anyway – the real scumbags are the wazzocks with the baby on board signs. ‘Well, thanks for the heads up – I was going to swerve violently and push your car into a ditch but now I know you have an ickle wickle human in the back I’ll hold off’. Tossers the lot of em.

They are there in case of an accident si the emergency services know there are children in the vehicle.

More so a throwback to the era of not having seatbelts (esp in the back) so that the services knew to go looking in nearby hedges. These days the massive child seat and the metric shit-ton of sticky geegaws, thingamajigs, dofunnies, hinktybobbles and playbowtamborinies (and wipes) stuffed into every orafice in the car would be sufficient clues.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 12:08 pm
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You can get them as fridge magnets you know ....job lot of a hundred all around the parish??


 
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More so a throwback to the era of not having seatbelts (esp in the back) so that the services knew to go looking in nearby hedges.

Nah it's just an excuse to avoid as they will be paying no attention to the road, then as a bonus it gets you guilt free into the parent and child spaces


 
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